Originally posted by Beermangler

 Not until there is a trial available and that's only if I can somehow get over my disgust for animes.

I dislike anime-style art quite a bit, but while I was playing Aion I never thought "Hey, that's anime, ewwww". Aion is not anime, so if that's the reason you don't want to play then maybe you should come up with another, more valid reason such as "I don't want to pay $50 to buy it" or "I don't like pvp" or "I can't stop playing WoW".

Originally posted by Boardwalker

Originally posted by Beermangler

 Not until there is a trial available and that's only if I can somehow get over my disgust for animes.

 

I dislike anime-style art quite a bit, but while I was playing Aion I never thought "Hey, that's anime, ewwww". Aion is not anime, so if that's the reason you don't want to play then maybe you should come up with another, more valid reason such as "I don't want to pay $50 to buy it" or "I don't like pvp" or "I can't stop playing WoW".

LOL!

QFT.

Originally posted by aspiin

1. There is nothing original or new. ( Dont give me the flying crud. It will not work on me.)

WoW has proven you don't need to come up with something original and new to succeed. NCSoft is doing the financially sound thing with Aion's design (keeping it's fundamentals aligned with existing, successful MMOs) and I'm realistic so I don't hold that against them. Not sure what you mean by flying = crud. It's a big feature that changes gameplay in a lot of areas--dismissing it the way you do belittles what little argument you have.

2. Way too anime/emo looking (Its an eastern thing that I respect, but stay away from.)

I don't see it. I dislike anime quite a bit, but the art in Aion didn't set off any anime alarms in my head.

3. Stupid emotes

If there weren't emotes people would complain. If you don't like them, don't use them, it's just an extra feature.

4. No limits to customization. (And I mean good limits. Have fun playing with character with little heads and huge bodies. Does this not bother people? All it does is make the game a joke. Mind you it is a game, but I do not play normal rpgs with this so I wouldnt want my mmorpg like this.)

So you are complaining that people have options to design their characters how they want to? Gasp! An MMO letting people look unique or different. How rude! How dare they let people make characters that *you* might find...bothersome. Do you also hate short, fat, skinny, tall people in real life too? If Aion didn't offer as many character creation options as they do, people would complain about how it has a crappy creation system.

5. I would not play enough for 15$ per month. Its really not worth it.

$15 is a bargain. Just my opinion, of course.

Originally posted by Boardwalker

Originally posted by Beermangler

 Not until there is a trial available and that's only if I can somehow get over my disgust for animes.

 

I dislike anime-style art quite a bit, but while I was playing Aion I never thought "Hey, that's anime, ewwww". Aion is not anime, so if that's the reason you don't want to play then maybe you should come up with another, more valid reason such as "I don't want to pay $50 to buy it" or "I don't like pvp" or "I can't stop playing WoW".

The beauty of Aion is that it never feels "anime" when you play it. The story is so captivating that it draws you into the epic environment creating a wonderful picture of artistic flare. The only "anime" part of Aion is that it was made in Korea.

I will be playing Aion on the 20th as well. i have played GW for along time and it's time to lay it to rest. I also tried out Wow and i didn't understand the hype with it why so many ppl love it so much. I for one couldn't stand the mis proportioned toons in that game along with it's old and out dated feel over all. I will admit it did have a lot of features they were good but not enought to out weigh the bad things. Also the ppl in wow were all kinda rude to say the least. Anyway i for one can't wait for aion and i hope it becomes the 1# mmorpg of all time!!!

I stopped playing WoW a while ago. Great game. I just suppose after playing on and off for 4 years, you look forward to something new.

So  I suppose I am not converting so to speak. I am just happy to have a new mmo to play for a while. :D 

Meh....I'm going to pass on this theme park and try an indy game.  I will probably play Fallen Earth or Mortal Online until Guild Wars 2 comes out.

The indy games may not have all the flash and flare, but they have the freedom and the chance to evolve for the better.  Most theme parks seem to devolve and get more and more simpler/dubmed down over time because their design caters to the lowest common denominator.  Just look at how WoW has changed, and it wasn't all that challenging at launch...

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Meh....I'm going to pass on this theme park and try an indy game.  I will probably play Fallen Earth or Mortal Online until Guild Wars 2 comes out.

The indy games may not have all the flash and flare, but they have the freedom and the chance to evolve for the better.  Most theme parks seem to devolve and get more and more simpler/dubmed down over time because their design caters to the lowest common denominator.  Just look at how WoW has changed, and it wasn't all that challenging at launch...

GW2 is not an indie game.  Just another "theme park" according to your description. LOL

Lowest common denominator?  Looking at WoW's subscription numbers, I'd say you are quite mistaken.

Originally posted by JonMichael

Originally posted by MindTrigger

Meh....I'm going to pass on this theme park and try an indy game.  I will probably play Fallen Earth or Mortal Online until Guild Wars 2 comes out.

The indy games may not have all the flash and flare, but they have the freedom and the chance to evolve for the better.  Most theme parks seem to devolve and get more and more simpler/dubmed down over time because their design caters to the lowest common denominator.  Just look at how WoW has changed, and it wasn't all that challenging at launch...

 

GW2 is not an indie game.  Just another "theme park" according to your description. LOL

Lowest common denominator?  Looking at WoW's subscription numbers, I'd say you are quite mistaken.

 

I didn't say GW2 was an indy game, I said I'm going to play an indy game (Fallen Earth, Mortal Online) until GW2 comes out.  If you have trouble understanding what someone has written, it is best if you just don't reply.

GW2 may well be a theme-park, and if the game play leans toward the status quo, I may be playing Earthrise or something else instead.  However, Guild Wars was an awesome and very, very polished game from day one, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

I hate to break the news to you, but look around.  It is Marketing 101 that the masses are the lowest common denominator.  This planet is NOT filled with a majority of intelligent and/or creative people.  The majority are plain old people who don't want to think or do much.  When you design a product for mass consumption, you make it as dirt easy and accessible as possible so that you can have the largest customer base possible.  This is what is meant by designing for the lowest common denominator. Take a marketing or product design class and ask your instructor if I am right.

I also didn't say Wow was a horrible game, but anyone who has played it knows that it started off as a fairly simple MMO (with exception of the 1% who do end game) and it has been getting easier and easier with every patch/expansion. Leveling is easier and faster, getting loot is easier and faster, etc.  It has been devolving to meet the expectations of people who want instant gratification, not a long term gaming commitment. This has happened to many an MMO and if Aion gets very popular, it too will probably head down this path. Hell, I've been waiting for WoW to get the point where the game plays itself for you while you watch....it's not far off. ;P

Indy games like EVE have avoided this trap and they have continued to develop a deep, complex and interesting gaming experience for their niche customer base without falling into the trap of dumbing the game down in an attempt to pull down WoW subscription numbers.

P.S.  I don't play EVE.

Originally posted by FastTx

I've been in between MMO's for over a year now. Aion is the first game since Lineage 2 that has compelled me to subscribe.

Exactly the same  here.  I left L2 about 3  years ago and have been Beta hopping hoping to find something that was as good but not the same.  I left L2 more for personal reasons and after a year break didn't want to go back and be a  year behind.  I got into a couple games after their initial launch but never lasted for a month.  I did spend a lot of time in a F2P game called CABAL Online which was good as I liked the Graphics.  it was a small world though not even 100k in players and was on the leader board there for a while.  I have been waiting for Aion for about 1.5 years :) and can't wait for 9/22 actually 9/6, then 9/18 to get my name and then 9/20 for the two day pre-buy headstart and then for 9/22 for it to be wide open.

it is so funny how excited I am about this game... I feel like a 6th grader waiting for summer break.  LOL.

Sukah

 I quit playing WOW a couple of years ago... Didn't like the graphics much, but the main reason is that I got bored.    

I'm not playing anything at the moment, so when I heard Aion was coming out, I became interested.  I'm looking forward to playing it, and I hope I don't get bored with it too soon.

$15 for a month of entertainment isn't much, by the way... Have you gone to the movies lately?  $15 will get you in with a soda (Alone!)  and it's over in a couple of hours.  Even at 3 hours a week, it's still a bargain!  

I plan to although I'm considering holding off until the new year to avoid the mad rush. Not 100% sure just yet but I'll likely at least buy it on the 22nd and decide with my g/f when we plan to start up.

Originally posted by MrPhire

Originally posted by logangregor

I dont know if AION is the best game Ive played EVERRRR, but for me it beats WoW as Ive played WoW since release, Im not a huge fan of Raiding and Ive played every class Ive found interesting in PvP. Im done with WoW. /bye /tear

And I dont hate people who play WoW, I do however absolutely loathe blind fanbois that know nothing else of the mmorpg genre.

 

 

 

Enderz.... That is probably the first post I have seen you post. Were I can say, yeah I completely agree. I have played WoW off and on during its 4 years of release. I love raiding (One thing differnt :P) and I've stuck with mages, rogues, and priests. I'm pretty much done with wow. I'm burnt on Ulduar and the new raids/instances are very short and not very fun as a raid. IC will come out, and if I feel like I have time to dedicate myself to raiding I may join WoW again just to play a boss or two. When caticlysm comes out, maybe I'll go back. It all depends on the current age MMOs and my life. I don't hate any of the players in WoW who are just like the buds I played with, but I do hate the fanboys who are all for the game. WoW just like every other MMO has flaws.

 

@ the OP and everyone else

I am technically converting from WoW, GW, and random F2P mmos to Aion on the 20th of september when the Headstart starts.

People are picky of their games, and it's allowed. The reasons tend to be repeating funny comments such as: the game is too linear, the game is not innovative and don't talk about flying, and some others. The funniest was said today. No good limitation on custimization. Thats hilarious. It doesn't set right with you that your are able to customize you charecter. Lolz. I'm all for the simple presets and 16 options for custimazitions, but I got to admit the charecter creation is definitly a plus. Thats my 2 cents

Mr. Phire I thought the same thing when I read that "there is not good limiation on customization" LOL.  I saw some awesome customized characters I mean from Golemn from the Hobbit to Angelina Jolie.  I actually didn't spend too much time in the CB as I just wanted to get in and play but I mean you saw guys running around looking like Dwarfs to WI's that are the epitomy of Ghandalf the Grey. 

I was just telling my friend (who is still playing L2) that one thing I really liked is that you would never be in a situation in this game where you run into 45 guys/girls that look just like you wearing the only elite gear available and carrying the same exact armor.

Another funny thing that you hear about is the "so linear" I mean with the in game customization with stygmas, enhancements, stones, topped off with color dyes I truly believe you would have a less likely chance to ever run into two Chars that even come close to being similar even if they are both the same sex, same color hair, and same char type. 

I can't wait LOL.

Originally posted by aspiin

Originally posted by Pryetta

Originally posted by aspiin

No. Here are the reasons.

1. There is nothing original or new. ( Dont give me the flying crud. It will not work on me.) Yeah and just slapping on some new color, a few new maps, mounts, whatever and paying about 50 bucks for an "expansion" is so much better.

Are you joking? Have you played beta? I have. GW has a dye system...and its free to play. Oh wow I can be blue armor instead of someones red armor...No game is worth a 50$ price tag just to get MAYBE a slight advantage.

I love how when I say something that someone doesn't like they have to say "Have you played beta?" Yep I have, since the beginning, Oh I played GW's Beta, WoW's beta, plenty of betas...I think you haven't played GW if all you can talk about is the "Dye System" Oh and Guild Wars is about 30 bucks, not 50 bucks, seems to meet up to par with your idea of a game not worth 50 bucks. Also GW is B2P not P2P, meaning you buy it and it is free to play.

2. Way too anime/emo looking (Its an eastern thing that I respect, but stay away from.) Emo looking? Where is the emo?? 

This is how is how I see it. If you can't see the obviously you care for the animation. Where as I do not.

All I asked is where you see the Emo, its a simple question...you can't seem to give a simple answer. What is so emo about this game? And Emo means Emotional, so I guess I do like emotional type games.

3. Stupid emotes Yeah....all games have those.

There is a fine line between "fun emotes that are silly" and "awkward emtotes that are stupid".

And a lot of those games cross that line. Including a lot of free mmos and pay to play ones.

4. No limits to customization. (And I mean good limits. Have fun playing with character with little heads and huge bodies. Does this not bother people? All it does is make the game a joke. Mind you it is a game, but I do not play normal rpgs with this so I wouldnt want my mmorpg like this.) Yeah and Worgens are so much better...and the way you can make your Orcs looks or whatever.

I dont understand your response what is Worgen?

New class in World of Warcraft...along with the Goblins. And I just love putting ponytails on my Orc as well.

5. I would not play enough for 15$ per month. Its really not worth it. Really? How long would you play??? The 30 day free trial?

I would not get the 30 day free trial because I would not spend 50$ on the CE. I would play maybe 3 days out of the week for maybe a total of 5 hours. not worth 15$.

Collectors Edition is 70 bucks, Standard Edition is 50 bucks, you get a 30 day free trial. And really? You play 5 hours for 3 days, that is...15 hours, I say at a dollar an hour...you should pay 15 bucks a month. Pretty cheap if you ask me.

MY opionions of course, just thought I would slap some sense into someone before they wasted money. That is your opinion its a waste of money, you aren't knocking sense into anyone.

Thats why I said it was my opinion take your sarcasm and trolling somewhere else.

You said it was your opinion and then said "just thought I would slap some sense into someone before they waste money" which isn't your opinion anymore.

 

 

i cancled my preorder  .  only because i can see my self getting borard with it down the line  . i did enjoy playing beta  the toons were nice to play   game  ran well  i  never came across to many bugs  . im sure there was

but there was just some   thing lacking  that never made me want to play  all time . i was hopeing  this would   take me away from wow . . after 4 years  ive finely gave up on the game   . sick blizz just  sticking new coat of  paint  on every  few years i guest  just  waiting for gw2 and diablo  to come out  now

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Originally posted by MrPhire

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Originally posted by logangregor

I dont know if AION is the best game Ive played EVERRRR, but for me it beats WoW as Ive played WoW since release, Im not a huge fan of Raiding and Ive played every class Ive found interesting in PvP. Im done with WoW. /bye /tear

And I dont hate people who play WoW, I do however absolutely loathe blind fanbois that know nothing else of the mmorpg genre.
 
 

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Enderz.... That is probably the first post I have seen you post. Were I can say, yeah I completely agree. I have played WoW off and on during its 4 years of release. I love raiding (One thing differnt :P) and I've stuck with mages, rogues, and priests. I'm pretty much done with wow. I'm burnt on Ulduar and the new raids/instances are very short and not very fun as a raid. IC will come out, and if I feel like I have time to dedicate myself to raiding I may join WoW again just to play a boss or two. When caticlysm comes out, maybe I'll go back. It all depends on the current age MMOs and my life. I don't hate any of the players in WoW who are just like the buds I played with, but I do hate the fanboys who are all for the game. WoW just like every other MMO has flaws.
 
@ the OP and everyone else
I am technically converting from WoW, GW, and random F2P mmos to Aion on the 20th of september when the Headstart starts.
People are picky of their games, and it's allowed. The reasons tend to be repeating funny comments such as: the game is too linear, the game is not innovative and don't talk about flying, and some others. The funniest was said today. No good limitation on custimization. Thats hilarious. It doesn't set right with you that your are able to customize you charecter. Lolz. I'm all for the simple presets and 16 options for custimazitions, but I got to admit the charecter creation is definitly a plus. Thats my 2 cents

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Thanks I guess :P, am I that bad?

I like Open PvP something akin to DAOC RvR and DAOC BGs.

Im a fan of Crowd Control.

I dont think warhammer was quite as terrible as some people made it to be.

Hardcore raiding guilds I beleive to "Typically" be a handful of "Asshats".

And my last pet peave, I dont like how blizzard breaks the things that are fun for no good reason. That ones kind of a long rant so I wont even start.

Oh yeah, ganking and griefing is blown out of proportion.

I still dont like Zorndork. Wait, did I spell that right?

I'll be quiting WoW when Aion comes out. I'm a WoW vet since nov. 2004 and my tier 8.5 DK is going to sit on the shelf for awhile. Personally I think the new WoW expac is nothing more than a stealth beta for their next mmo. To many fundamental changes for just a content xpac.

I just, like today, tried CO and it sucks. Thats my fault though because I never liked CoH. I just thought it would be different and its not. The best part about that game is the charachter customization....

I played all the aion betas and love most everything about it. A few small gripes here and there like some of the audio and animations but nothing game breaking. It will definatly keep me going till the SWTOR and 38 studios mmo (there better be something good there!!!!) as well as  the warhammer 40k mmo.

I also have been a WoW head for almost 4 years now since i quit ultima online and i am soooo ready for something new... i loved the good times ive had on WoW and all but i have been praying for a mmo to come out and destroy it for about 2 years now, aion prolly wont take WoW out or anything but i sure hope it does. i played lineage 2 for a couple of months and just LOVED the graphics but the game play was just not as good as WoW's and vise versa with WoW.. the game play is the shizznit but the graphics are just not there and yes i seen someone say on a post above that it feels more like a job now and in a way ya and  people have made it where you have to be elite and geared out to join raids and stuff so i feel sry for the noobs that get turned down by all the d**kheads that play WoW, and just about everyone on WoW thinks there s**t dont stink because they can press a couple of buttons at the right time and have good gear but there are d**ks everywhere in life so im sure Aion will have there fair share too but a fresh start on a new mmo will bring down the testosterone for about a year hopefully since everyone will be noob Lol.. Anyway.. Aion, WoW, lineage, those are my kinda games, i love the ancient/medieval war games and movies like LOTR and stuffs. I ALWAYS thought that if they mixed lineage 2 graphics with the WoW gameplay that would be the coolest game ever and when i found out about AION i was in aww.. i couldnt of ask for a better game to come out then a wow/lineage clash. i cant friggin wait to throw WoW in the dumbster and start up on some AION. everytime i look at the pics and youtube the pvp videos i get excited as hell, those graphics are just elite and perfect for my style. AION's gonna get my 15 bucks a month fo sho.

Originally posted by Warblaze

I don't like Aion... it just feels too much of an asian grinder and looks too anime for my taste.  And besides, with Cataclysm on the horizon? Ofc not.

Cataclysm proberbly wont be released untill november 2010 and could be as late as spring 2011 . So you ll have a long wait .

I ll be in AION .Its not that i dont like WOW but i ve got as much as i can from it and the endgame content is generally too easy now . Most of my friends have up and left and the community leaves a lot to be desired ( still better than the age of conan community with its large impersonal guilds though ) . From AIONs beta i got the same sence of excitement i had from the WOW beta 5 years ago . Any one called this game an asian grinder has nt played it . Its no more of a grind in its early levels than WOW .