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Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 2:36:47 PM#1 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. It's all in your head. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder.
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Cromica Advanced Member Joined: 6/03/09 Posts: 309	8/30/09 2:41:26 PM#2 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray There is no such thing as "griefing" or "ganking". They are simply excuses made up for one reason or another. Think of it this way, when you kill NPCs, are you "griefing" them? Are you "ganking" them? Of course not. There is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". Learn not to make excuses and grind harder. You are an idiot
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 2:45:27 PM#3 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal.
Wickedjelly Elite Member Joined: 4/19/09 Posts: 3382 The Dude abides	8/30/09 2:48:43 PM#4 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Now you're just being annoying. Give it a rest already. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
User Deleted	8/30/09 2:49:23 PM#5 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood.
Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 2:54:16 PM#6 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control?
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 3:00:34 PM#7 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by grandpagamer Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood. Well being bullied is abuse too. I didn't mean any specific form of abuse, just kids who can't beat people up in real life, but have a lot of anger issues.
User Deleted	8/30/09 3:02:43 PM#8 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by grandpagamer *Originally posted by xaldraxius* You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. I would agree with all you say except for your theory of why griefers grief. Im more of the opinion that they have most likely lost their milk money on a regular basis and use this as a way to convince themselves of their manhood. Well being bullied is abuse too. I didn't mean any specific form of abuse, just kids who can't beat people up in real life, but have a lot of anger issues. Agreed. In my line of work i see a lot of people like this in the form of domestic abuse in one form or another. Once they get to the facility they are quite frightened as they know who their "room mates' will be.
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 3:04:53 PM#9 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it?
Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 3:09:09 PM#10 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it? Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about. The only concern I think about is how to win. Why is thinking about anything else necessary?
lorechaser Novice Member Joined: 9/11/05 Posts: 124	8/30/09 3:10:58 PM#11 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? I realize this is nothing but a troll thread, but do you realize that the sentence you typed there is something most often associated with sociopaths? Also, you can't control how other people drive, so why not just go through red lights and drive over pedestrians? Who am I? @Lorechaser on CoH Badjuju, Splinterhoof, Plainsrunner on WoW (Moonrunner) Shyy'rissk on SWG (Flurry) ClockworkSoldier, HE Pierce, Letnev on Planetside Gyshe, Crucible, Terrakal on DDO And many more.
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 3:12:22 PM#12 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it? Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about. The only concern I think about is how to win. Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;)
Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 3:15:17 PM#13 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by Mrbluray *Originally posted by xaldraxius* *Originally posted by Mrbluray* Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it? Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about. The only concern I think about is how to win. Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;) Learn to control your emotions. This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". It is all in your head. When it comes to competition, emotions get in the way.
FunkyLasagne Novice Member Joined: 6/25/06 Posts: 342	8/30/09 3:18:17 PM#14 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) **** me, it's Mr Spock! :P
blackthornn Hard Core Member Joined: 7/31/04 Posts: 476 OMG I'm not temp banned again? WTF?? This day does end in Y right?	8/30/09 3:18:22 PM#15 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? wow, great example of sociopathic behaviour. you'll do well in Aion. EQ (MT/EMarr), WoW, EQ2, L2, VG, CoH, DDO, LoTRO, WAR, Neocron2, Requiem, AO, AoC,SWToR, Aion, plus a metric ton of trials and betas (in no set order) Waiting on TSW since Dark Millenium was canned.
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 3:19:25 PM#16 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by Mrbluray *Originally posted by xaldraxius* Originally posted by Mrbluray Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it? Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about. The only concern I think about is how to win. Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;) Learn to control your emotions. This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". It is all in your head. When it comes to competition, emotions get in the way. Not true my friend. Emotions do a lot in any form of competition. Without passion you can never rise above the limits of your technical skill, and without ambition you'll never strive to be the best. If you don't have a sense of accomplishment or even the 'spirit' of competition then you still haven't answered my question: Why play?
u18bu2sa0k Novice Member Joined: 4/09/09 Posts: 141	8/30/09 3:21:56 PM#17 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) its much easier to follow the Zero Fairness rule. do the wastelander style!
Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 3:23:27 PM#18 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by xaldraxius Originally posted by Mrbluray *Originally posted by xaldraxius* *Originally posted by Mrbluray* *Originally posted by xaldraxius* *Originally posted by Mrbluray* Originally posted by xaldraxius You can't grief a AI because it has no feelings, but if you are deliberately setting out to ruin someone's gaming experience, then you are causing them grief... aka: Griefing. There are a lot of cyber bullies out there who don't care in the least if they take the fun out of games. Hey it's fun for them, so screw everyone else. Mostly they are abused kids who need an outlet for their frustrations. Of course most MMOs now have ways to get away from griefers so it's no big deal. When I do PvP, I do it with little to no feeling or emotion. Am I an AI? Nor am I concerned with the feelings of others. WHy should I be? I can't control how others feel. Why worry about something you can't control? You can't control other people's feelings but you can have an impact on them. Whether you want it to be a positive or negative impact says a lot about your personality. If you don't feel anything, I am assuming you mean fun as well, why do you do it? Whether my impact is positive or negative is of no concern to me. Such concerns are useless to waste time on thinking about. The only concern I think about is how to win. Haha. Well, it must be great to be 'above' human emotions. ;) Learn to control your emotions. This is why there is no such thing as "ganking" or "griefing". It is all in your head. When it comes to competition, emotions get in the way. Not true my friend. Emotions do a lot in any form of competition. Without passion you can never rise above the limits of your technical skill, and without ambition you'll never strive to be the best. If you don't have a sense of accomplishment or even the 'spirit' of competition then you still haven't answered my question: Why play? Why play? To win. Why else would anyone play?
Mrbluray Apprentice Member Joined: 8/25/09 Posts: 252	8/30/09 3:24:47 PM#19 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Originally posted by u18bu2sa0k its much easier to follow the Zero Fairness rule. do the wastelander style! Fairness is irrelevant.
xaldraxius Novice Member Joined: 10/07/05 Posts: 1287	8/30/09 3:25:11 PM#20 Report this post Explain why you are reporting this post: (750 characters max.) Why do you feel the need to win?