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8/29/09 3:21:26 PM#41
Originally posted by Horkathane
Loving the game so far. I'm playing a force character and the powers are nice. Animations are great. Just love the art style of the game. |
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8/29/09 6:08:38 PM#42
The argument in this thread needs a whaaaaaambulance. --------------- |
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8/29/09 11:26:18 PM#43
Smooth release so far. Friday night I counted 20.000 online people. Thats mostly people who bought the game from USA retailers as EU will have a few days delay. I saw 15.000 people online Saturday afternoon. How? Log in a newbie alt (tutorial) and then count how many instances are there (hit M and change instance). Then log a higher level alt and check the crisis zones (2). After that, check the big 3 zones (MC, Desert, Canada). Sum that up. People online. Takes about 5min to do it (if you have a level 1, a level 6 and a 9+ alts). Not bad for the HS. Hopefully we will get over 50k online next weekend (with people from all over the World). Devs said they needed about 90k subscriptions to keep the game growing. Wait and see now. About the smart reply in the first page: how do you sell out a download game? Dude.... seriously? Download is one option, and one that is not really popular. People for some reason still likes to buy the box. Of course they also sold downloads copies only... anyway, the boxes with pre-order bonus (USA and EU) were out of stock by Friday.
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8/29/09 11:34:57 PM#44
Originally posted by kal08 Hopefully they will even get more then that. They should do better then CoH. CoH at max had 180k.
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8/30/09 6:31:16 AM#45
Originally posted by kal08 The last 2 big MMO's had huge releases...and you see how they struggle now. Its not really that important what numbers they pull in September. Its November numbers that will be important. I am not a fan of what the devs gave us. I will freely say initially the game impresses. But it has a short lifespan. The game is not released and there are level 30's running around. The last minute XP and retcon tweaks ruined some of the game flow. But since its technically pre-release, so you can't hate them too much for it. |
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8/30/09 6:39:09 AM#46
No matter the MMO your going to find those ppl that have to rush to max lvl, it's a badge of honour for them and thier playstyle, also they are the ones more likely to quit after the first month as they have seen it all and bought the T-shirt, but thats their way and good luck to them. I was going to get the game on pre-order to take advantage of the head start but as non of my friends are getting the game it was a mute point, so next week I'l get the game and by then the massive quest bottleneck should have died down allowign me to quest in relative peace and frustration free (Fingers crossed).
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8/30/09 6:51:43 AM#47
Originally posted by Beachcomber
How do you sell out Digital Downloads?
It's also got boxed sales aswell, not just D2D.
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8/30/09 7:05:01 AM#48
Gotta say i been a lot of mmo launches from EQ1,EQ2,perfect worlds,SWG,eve,war,AoC and wow ( which has to be the worst launch ever) but co has to be the best launch i have seen so far. I have not got this excited about a mmo since way back with EQ1(which i played for 10 years and am still subed to it). Its fun and sure it has some elements of war,wow and other mmos but it allso gives you the feeling of being a hero . Which lets face it is what fantasy gameing is all about getting away from real life and becomeing something differant. So guys i strongly sugest if you havent go grab yourself a copy and try it . |
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8/30/09 11:03:55 AM#49
Originally posted by Manchine
Warhammer didn't have a great launch. Certainly wasn't one of the worst by any stretch but it was far from great and actually if you're talking about launches specifically then you would have to add LotR to that list. Frankly, seems a bit early to me to say their launch was great or compare it to those other launches but it does seem to be going well so far. 1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical. 2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself. 3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose. |
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8/30/09 11:30:06 AM#50
Originally posted by Wickedjelly
Warhammer didn't have a great launch. Certainly wasn't one of the worst by any stretch but it was far from great and actually if you're talking about launches specifically then you would have to add LotR to that list. Frankly, seems a bit early to me to say their launch was great or compare it to those other launches but it does seem to be going well so far.
Never heard if LotR had a good launch or not. So that would make 5 games that had Great launches.
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8/30/09 4:57:36 PM#51
Warhammer's launch wasn't good. There were lots of bugs and lots of issues. I'd not put it in the same category.... I'd say some of the best launches were DaoC, CoH, LoTR... LoTR did have some queues for logging in but it wasn't too bad nothing like when Wow launched. REALLY bad launches were AO, Vanguard, AoC were among the worst. EQ worked pretty well at launch but had lots of downtime for the first couple weeks and login issues. So I'd say it was pretty bad. But not in the same category as the 3 I mentioned above. 
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8/30/09 7:51:24 PM#52
Hate to burst your bubble but a ton of games have had smooth launches lately. It is pretty much mandatory now a days in order to drive a even remotely successful mmo. Champions has an advantage as to not be launching alongside a WoW content patch or expansion, but unfortunately they have Aion to deal with. While some may think these games have nothing in common, they will basically hurt each other's subs while WoW releases Icecrown and blows away half there sub base just like they did with Conan and WAR. Hell, Conan didn't even take a fully fledged content patch to drive it into the ground, just a pre-expansion one with nothing but features already coming in the expansion. Not saying Champions even compares to Conan, but one can certainly acknowledge that every time Blizzard releases something on there crown jewel the rest of the MMOs out there take a hit. |
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8/31/09 3:43:31 AM#53
Originally posted by Celcius
WoW expansions/patches are not the reason those mmo's lost subs. They just were extremely hyped, but many were disappointed when they didn't get what they expected. --------------- |
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8/31/09 2:17:46 PM#54
I remember crushing a Horka Thane in Tribes 1 long ago who sounded just like this guy. I almost felt bad qowning him so badly over and over again.
Almost.
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9/02/09 5:28:10 AM#55
Not a smooth launch for a lot of us non-US players - the central LA based server means that a lot of us UK players can barely log in let alone enjoy the game due to massive rubber banding etc...What's more there are hundreds of posts about this over on Cryptics boards and whilst a lot of the posts are from Uk users, many other countries are affected too apparently. The issue has been there since start of open beta and cryptic devs response has been limited to 'we'll look into it' and 'we're making a tool to try and find out where the problem is coming from. From my tests it seems there are huge packet loss issues from servers on the east coast US (servers that are neither in my ISPs or cryptics control). Not Cryptics fault per se, but something they didn't seem to take into account (or did and decided it wouldn't be a big issue for the majority) when going with the one game world / shard model.
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9/02/09 7:38:38 AM#56
Awesome job calling Horkathane's BS. Everytime I see a post from him I feel like Punching him in the face. A pet peeve of mine if someone who talks smack that is based on nothing but hopes and dreams. We don't know yet how well CO is going to do. Horkathane is a dumba$$. Anyways, that aside, I hope CO is the WoW killer. Do I personally think it will be? No. But I really like WoW, been playing since release off and on. Tried alot of other MMO's and keep coming back to it. I myself am dreaming for the day when I game can pull me away from WoW. Then I'll get that fresh, fun feeling again for an MMO. Whatever game that is, I hope its in the near future. Grats so far on CO launch. I might actually go pick it up today to try it out on my new PC (just got it yesterday). To all who play CO and Love it, including Horkathane, Have fun. |
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9/02/09 7:54:53 AM#57
Originally posted by Celcius
The last truly stable launch of a AAA P2P title was LOTRO pre CO. Aion will have a smooth launch as it has already been released eslewhere and is stable, US beta, etc was mainly localization. WAR had an OK launch but was a bit buggy and AOC, well, everyone knows that story, even though it is now a great game to play. Tabula Rasa, ouch, what can anyone say about that. What other AAA launches have been very smooth lately? I cannot think of any and I am one of the happier gamers here. CO has had a great launch, not quite as good as LOTRO but great. They did do the "nerf patch" yesterday that caused an uproar amongst many but things will balance out soon. I honestly don't think WOW patching has anything to do with sub impacts to other games at all but would love to see if there are any real statistics on that. I DO see a major expansion release potentially having an impact but not an update or patch. CO is also a completely different genre and style of game that I do not think will be highly impacted by what WOW does. My guess, is when that next expansion comes out people might go back but would play both. Also, Cryptic sold a lot of 6 month and lifetime subs. I know many think that WOW is the center of the universe but I do not see anything other that the "Cataclysm" expansion having an impact on any of the new MMOs.
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9/02/09 8:52:02 AM#58
Originally posted by select20
Sorry CO is not a WoW killer... not even close to one it's doomed to a niche community. As far as I'm concerned in order to be classified as a WoW killer a game has to compete with WoW on it's level which includes having a extremely popular IP to work with and a very well respected developer working on the game. The only MMO coming out with that type of setting is SW:TOR which I can already forsee it taking a huge number of subs away from WoW first because BioWare is making it and second because it's StarWars.. |
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9/02/09 8:54:31 PM#59
It seems Horkathanes post has a funnier relevance after the game actually launched ;) |
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trike
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"If we couldn't laugh, we would all be insane." -- Jimmy Buffett |
9/02/09 9:35:22 PM#60
Originally posted by TheStarheart
You wouldn't think "Horkathane" would anagram into "ironic," but it's a perfect fit. |
