The first poster and another one on the first page are shills. It's pretty easy to spot and with backing by Avery on page 2, hmmmmmm is there Funcom in this thread?

Sieges broken/laggy

Raids lame

Guild cities not customizable

Resources for cities, takes too long to acquire

guild bank, still 50 slots,

DX10 well still beta,

I mean where do you want the list of things which still don't have functionality or value in the game to end? Why is it necessary for us to look past all of the stuff that is missing or broken or not fun in order to appreciate the game? Boobs, great. Music, great, exprience/gameplay/customization, lacking very very lacking.

So what should we do when the free trial fails, well instead of figuring out why it fails, i.e. because mutiple components of the game simply do not work coherently together, lets just start upping the pay of the shill department and market this pig to the masses with as much lipstick as we can. I mean is the rainbow in color or is this just a dream?

The truth about AOC is that AOC is a poorly implemented, poorly supported product. Were it anything but that, it would be growing substantially with a free trial. The truth about Funcom is that Funcom is a horrible company and employs shills/multilevel markets in the practice of suggesting sales and falsely advertising the features of the product. Instead of working with the community in a real way, and fixing core components of the game, they have simply decided to just do what they think is best, and that is what they did before AOC launched, sell the game to anybody saying just about anything about it, and in anyway. Never mind that the game stinks in a lot of areas, both objectively and subjectively. If it were not so, the evidence which is layer upon layer from all areas of the internet, statistics from alexa on webhits, from the crowd here at mmorpg, from xfire play time which is down, from the lack of sub boosts from the FREE TRIAL, to their own projections of where their community and subscriber base is heading, which is clearly not a growth scenario. Their actual plans for the program are not stated in that release just like they actually planned for AOC to be doing substantially better with a winback program however...

CLEARLY they have finally realized that they are not going to see 300k or even 200k subscriptions for AOC ever again unless they fix it. The community has told them over and over in the hundreds of suggestion forum threads which have been made since the first week of launch what new features they want, what things in the game need fixing, what is a priority and by scale of sample what is important to them, the players. These suggestions are important because what a majority of posters agree on is very likely to be agreed upon by the entire group. However, they've decided that rather than fix it they are going to scrap it and make a new game, different designing, different mechanics, maybe better, but I'm not betting the farm, I'm not even betting a few dollars for a look. Funcom hear me and hear the rest of the universe that knows about your company, Free play trial before pay or you can go fuck yourselves on the expansion.

If they felt the AOC product could stand on its own they wouldn't be employing shills or MLMs or folks on forums to say good things about their product, they would let the perception be crafted by the shared exprience and story telling of the folks who have actually played the game and the consensus of those folks is that AOC is a failure and should not be supported or developed unless the company doing it is going to do it right and lay off the bullshit.

Originally posted by LordBonezy

 

lol

Are you still here? Well at least this time your exagerations, half truths and lies were mixed into a wall of text. Guess noone will read much of it. 

Move along.....

 I DO agree that everyone should try Tortage...I have always recommended this aspect.

I DO NOT recommend paying any charges--Tortage is good---but NOT that good!

There are tons of posts with people who have been doubled billed and who have been fooled into taking an offer that left them subscribed due to an ambiguous UI within the trial.

If you can try Tortage, that's cool.....but DO NOT give your Credit Card info to FC. (they give away AoC disks like candy now-a-days). So if you need to try the game--find a different way.

If they want you to try it--they can offer it for 100% free. (Like EvE and many others)

DO NOT GIVE FC YOUR CC INFO (until you are certain you want to sub--but watch out for double billing)

You've been warned

Originally posted by eureka105

Originally posted by Aceundor

Originally posted by LordBonezy

 

lol

Are you still here? Well at least this time your exagerations, half truths and lies were mixed into a wall of text. Guess noone will read much of it. 

Move along.....

 

What he listed there are not half truths but facts. Only opinion he said is that raids are lame. And most players would agree with that. Raids are lame. Once you've done them once, you never want to do them again.

Do you even play this game? Your signature says you don't. Maybe you should actually play it before you give yopur opinions?

At least Draccan being a Critic has done so with mostly factual info and clear presence. There is nothing wrong with trying the game out.

I don't beleive you play the game either, yet, another fresh account just for AoC negativity. Funny that. Be negative, be a critic, but don't be a troll. Most of the things lord B says kept him subbing to the game for over a year. Now AoC was worth his money for that long so trying out the game is not a bad thing is it. Why don't you do the same. Nice to see you again. Was worth his money for sure!!

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by eureka105

Originally posted by Aceundor

Originally posted by LordBonezy

 

lol

Are you still here? Well at least this time your exagerations, half truths and lies were mixed into a wall of text. Guess noone will read much of it. 

Move along.....

 

What he listed there are not half truths but facts. Only opinion he said is that raids are lame. And most players would agree with that. Raids are lame. Once you've done them once, you never want to do them again.

Do you even play this game? Your signature says you don't. Maybe you should actually play it before you give yopur opinions?

At least Draccan being a Critic has done so with mostly factual info and clear presence. There is nothing wrong with trying the game out.

I don't beleive you play the game either, yet, another fresh account just for AoC negativity. Funny that. Be negative, be a critic, but don't be a troll. Most of the things lord B says kept him subbing to the game for over a year. Now AoC was worth his money for that long so trying out the game is not a bad thing is it. Why don't you do the same. Nice to see you again. Was worth his money for sure!!

Avery maybe you'd like to get your fucking facts straight. I didn't sub to this pile for over a year. I was subbed from launch to October 08. I quit when my fucking guild died because our fucking server imploded. Oh  yeah and maybe you recall Funcom's answer to that was merging in January 3 months later. When the problem was known for 6 months because it started in July/August. It was widely discussed on every fucking forum daily at AOCforums. You maybe forgot cause you were too busy bsing the folks here and posting snippets of this useless article and that useless article.

When I came back, that was in June 09. Just before the free trials, I beat it by a week. When I came back I was happy to report that DX10 beta was in. Its Beta how excited would you all be if it had been beta at launch. Now imagine my boner when it was in 450 days later and it ran like shit compared to DX9 which was very very good. Also performance was fixed up which really was true 6 months ago. However there really wasn't a whole lot to keep me interested and to write home about. There was however a shit ton of the things I didn't like before still present. Total lack of support in areas of the game and depth.

The game isn't worth the sub. It wasn't worth the sub for the 100k or so who actually tried it for free and it is predicted by Funcom themselves to not be worth it over the course of the next few months as they predict and quite accurately a 10-15% drop in revenues directly tied to a drop in subscriptions which will probably be in the neighborhood of 15-20% to offset the revenue from product sales, and character transfer options.

You are on here every day talking about how the game is bigger better, and the expansion this and that. They still have not delivered what they advertised originally, and they have falled very very short on dozens of other areas which make a game fun, functional and gel well. Funcom is a horrible company and go ahead and represent them as not. The world was also flat at one time too but don't be telling folks that I subbed to this game over a year cause that is downright fucking false!

Ya I think the loads of people who just recently retried this game during free trials and win backs disproved that this game is worth playing at all.

That is just very extreme bias...ignoring 100,000 people or so to listen to the one person that says this game is good just because his posts is 100% positive OPINIONS of Age of Conan.

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

Why bother to DL some 15gbs of stuff ? 

Aion open beta is starting in few days - Be smart and try that one for FREE - For REAL !

AA said 100,000k players downloaded the client and provided links and that is not including the win backs who already had it like myself.

And in the last quarterly statement the revenues from subscriptions dropped 20% so it is pretty easy to do the math.

X= Old Subs, Y = New Trials

X + Y -Y - (X * .20) = change of Quarter 1 to Quarter 2.

Originally posted by nihce

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

OMFG pay ATTENTION.

Alexa.com reports the spike during the free trials of hits to the website, it was up about 30% from the average, now at pre-trial levels.

Xfire reports the spike in player hours and in number of hours total played. Went up during the trials, now down, at an all time low.

Funcom's quarterly report, projects declining revenues. They aren't expanding their capital they are losing subscriptions, that is what an MMO is designed to generate, revenue from subscribers. When revenue falls it is directly related to falling subscriptions. Of course if the fucking subscriptions were up, both Xfire numbers, as well as hits on the website would be up, which they are not! Not only that but Funcom would be reporting even the smallest victories that could be seen as victories. 1:2, 1:3, 1:5 players trying the trial, continuing to subscribe.

Fact is that number was polled by me during the free trial while I was paying for the game, and it appeared to be more like 1:20. Numbers like 1:20 or 5% subscribing after trying the game for free, well that is just downright pathetic. Suppose there were 100k subscribing before the trials and another 100k actually did the trial download, which has been reported, less than 10% were re-subbed after trial which is very close to what I found via polling daily during the trial.

The reasons are clear as day to someone who doesn't have a strong bias one way or the other. The game hasn't added value that players want. So they don't pay for things they don't want. Duh. The information is out there, the writitng is on the wall. AOC is fucking DOOMED!

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

 

OMFG pay ATTENTION.

Alexa.com reports the spike during the free trials of hits to the website, it was up about 30% from the average, now at pre-trial levels.

Xfire reports the spike in player hours and in number of hours total played. Went up during the trials, now down, at an all time low.

Funcom's quarterly report, projects declining revenues. They aren't expanding their capital they are losing subscriptions, that is what an MMO is designed to generate, revenue from subscribers. When revenue falls it is directly related to falling subscriptions. Of course if the fucking subscriptions were up, both Xfire numbers, as well as hits on the website would be up, which they are not! Not only that but Funcom would be reporting even the smallest victories that could be seen as victories. 1:2, 1:3, 1:5 players trying the trial, continuing to subscribe.

Fact is that number was polled by me during the free trial while I was paying for the game, and it appeared to be more like 1:20. Numbers like 1:20 or 5% subscribing after trying the game for free, well that is just downright pathetic. Suppose there were 100k subscribing before the trials and another 100k actually did the trial download, which has been reported, less than 10% were re-subbed after trial which is very close to what I found via polling daily during the trial.

The reasons are clear as day to someone who doesn't have a strong bias one way or the other. The game hasn't added value that players want. So they don't pay for things they don't want. Duh. The information is out there, the writitng is on the wall. AOC is fucking DOOMED!

1. Alexa : interesting, but aren't you the one explaining how inaccurate and wrong it is? 

2. Xfire: broken totally. Game does not track dx10 players, dx9 players reporting it is not tracking ...

3. Winbacks are not included in this quarter, as for free trials - when did they start?

4. Numbers polled by you. which forum? this one? if yes that is total and utter failure ... 

5. I am not saying that game is not doomed. Probably it is, if they don't pull the 180 with expansion and 1.06-07. But please ... those proves you guys provide are non scientifical - it is the same as saying god exists using 3rd party thing (the Bible)

Get your head straight. You 2 haven't proven nothing. Game is dying ... but your numbers are HUGE guesses with nothing else but 2 geeks that hate funcom (read my comment on that in other topic) making up "facts". Read a book on argument or something :D

Originally posted by nihce

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

 

OMFG pay ATTENTION.

Alexa.com reports the spike during the free trials of hits to the website, it was up about 30% from the average, now at pre-trial levels.

Xfire reports the spike in player hours and in number of hours total played. Went up during the trials, now down, at an all time low.

Funcom's quarterly report, projects declining revenues. They aren't expanding their capital they are losing subscriptions, that is what an MMO is designed to generate, revenue from subscribers. When revenue falls it is directly related to falling subscriptions. Of course if the fucking subscriptions were up, both Xfire numbers, as well as hits on the website would be up, which they are not! Not only that but Funcom would be reporting even the smallest victories that could be seen as victories. 1:2, 1:3, 1:5 players trying the trial, continuing to subscribe.

Fact is that number was polled by me during the free trial while I was paying for the game, and it appeared to be more like 1:20. Numbers like 1:20 or 5% subscribing after trying the game for free, well that is just downright pathetic. Suppose there were 100k subscribing before the trials and another 100k actually did the trial download, which has been reported, less than 10% were re-subbed after trial which is very close to what I found via polling daily during the trial.

The reasons are clear as day to someone who doesn't have a strong bias one way or the other. The game hasn't added value that players want. So they don't pay for things they don't want. Duh. The information is out there, the writitng is on the wall. AOC is fucking DOOMED!

1. Alexa : interesting, but aren't you the one explaining how inaccurate and wrong it is? 

2. Xfire: broken totally. Game does not track dx10 players, dx9 players reporting it is not tracking ...

3. Winbacks are not included in this quarter, as for free trials - when did they start?

4. Numbers polled by you. which forum? this one? if yes that is total and utter failure ... 

5. I am not saying that game is not doomed. Probably it is, if they don't pull the 180 with expansion and 1.06-07. But please ... those proves you guys provide are non scientifical - it is the same as saying god exists using 3rd party thing (the Bible)

Get your head straight. You 2 haven't proven nothing. Game is dying ... but your numbers are HUGE guesses with nothing else but 2 geeks that hate funcom (read my comment on that in other topic) making up "facts". Read a book on argument or something :D

Alexa is one of the more accurate measuring tools of tracking websites. It showed a pretty substantial hit jump on ageofconan.com during the trials. That hit jump amounted to what was the baseline for the previous 4-6 months + 30%, after the trials were over, had there been an increase of subscriptions one would expect that baseline to be higher than it was before the trials. However it isn't. It is basically the same and somewhat lower but only a few %. So we'll just say it was as if the trials didn't occur.

2. Xfire isn't broken just because you say so. Its accurate in AOC like it is accurate in every other program and Funcom was using it to brag about how AOC players were playing more. Now with play time at an all time low and ranked 50th its showing that winbacks didn't winback the majority of those who tried the. Listen, we wouldn't be talking about how AOC is a total failure if it was a smashing success here ok.

3. Winbacks haven't won any substantial number of the 1.1 milliong purchasers of the game who don't play today back. Case closed.

4. Numbers polled by me during my conversations with players. I talked to a bunch of players. I identified 54 who were free-trial players, of those WHEN ASKED only 3 told me they were going to re-sub and stick with AOC. The overwhelming consensus of the free-trials was that AOC still had a lot to get fixed and that the devs needed to make a much better showing. There was no knock your sox off moment for players coming back. Same show as before only stable.

5. Game is Doomed sir. The numbers are statistically sound. Every measurable in AOC is showing consistent steady declines, including the own fucking metrics from Funcom. Hello? Hello? Reading me 5x5? One would think if the company was actually interested in improving their product and rep that they would be pouring all hands on deck into pimping AOC not working on mutiple projects at once with more priority than AOC and an expansion but they've written off AOC which is why you and everybody else should too.

Winbacks will be reported next quarter, which Funcom themselves estimates to be around 10% lower revenues than this quarter.

You know it is bad when the Norway government is bailing Funcom out: \

The Company was awarded around 240 TUSD in
funding from the Norwegian Film Fund for the
development of its Java based free-to-play MMO.
This game reached its game-play beta stage in
August.

About DX 10 which was put on my AoC Box...is it out of Beta testing on live servers yet?

Originally posted by finaticd

Winbacks will be reported next quarter, which Funcom themselves estimates to be around 10% lower revenues than this quarter.

You know it is bad when the Norway government is bailing Funcom out: \

The Company was awarded around 240 TUSD in
funding from the Norwegian Film Fund for the
development of its Java based free-to-play MMO.
This game reached its game-play beta stage in
August.

 

 

About DX 10 which was put on my AoC Box...is it out of Beta testing on live servers yet?

You can run DX10 on live. I get about 50% performance hit on it vs DX9. If that sounds like its worth it to you great. Its hit or miss, most players with GTX series cards seem to stick with DX10, others report problems. Is it a major selling point over DX9 not really. Game looks great in DX9 but yeah DX10 does notch up a bit. Still wont give your voice overs or make your bank bigger, or help your guild tax, or make your sieges stable. But oh well. Got to get DX10 out cause it was on the fucking box.

Originally posted by LordBonezy

 

2. Xfire isn't broken just because you say so. Its accurate in AOC like it is accurate in every other program and Funcom was using it to brag about how AOC players were playing more. Now with play time at an all time low and ranked 50th its showing that winbacks didn't winback the majority of those who tried the. Listen, we wouldn't be talking about how AOC is a total failure if it was a smashing success here ok.

www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=234422 if the hyper link doesnt work um seems the vaunted x fire ( which i have ben trying ) has had problems wiht aoc for a good while .as their site admin says "Our original plan was to add DX10 Xfire in Game (XIG) support when Age of Conan first supported it. Unfortunately, we ran into some trouble.

We're still working on it between other projects, but it hasn't been abandoned.

No ETA just yet. That's about all I have. A glimmer of hope..."Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:13 pm

so if ya wount take his word that x fire has problems with aoc how about a x fire site admin?

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

 

OMFG pay ATTENTION.

Alexa.com reports the spike during the free trials of hits to the website, it was up about 30% from the average, now at pre-trial levels.

Xfire reports the spike in player hours and in number of hours total played. Went up during the trials, now down, at an all time low.

Funcom's quarterly report, projects declining revenues. They aren't expanding their capital they are losing subscriptions, that is what an MMO is designed to generate, revenue from subscribers. When revenue falls it is directly related to falling subscriptions. Of course if the fucking subscriptions were up, both Xfire numbers, as well as hits on the website would be up, which they are not! Not only that but Funcom would be reporting even the smallest victories that could be seen as victories. 1:2, 1:3, 1:5 players trying the trial, continuing to subscribe.

Fact is that number was polled by me during the free trial while I was paying for the game, and it appeared to be more like 1:20. Numbers like 1:20 or 5% subscribing after trying the game for free, well that is just downright pathetic. Suppose there were 100k subscribing before the trials and another 100k actually did the trial download, which has been reported, less than 10% were re-subbed after trial which is very close to what I found via polling daily during the trial.

The reasons are clear as day to someone who doesn't have a strong bias one way or the other. The game hasn't added value that players want. So they don't pay for things they don't want. Duh. The information is out there, the writitng is on the wall. AOC is fucking DOOMED!

1. Alexa : interesting, but aren't you the one explaining how inaccurate and wrong it is? 

2. Xfire: broken totally. Game does not track dx10 players, dx9 players reporting it is not tracking ...

3. Winbacks are not included in this quarter, as for free trials - when did they start?

4. Numbers polled by you. which forum? this one? if yes that is total and utter failure ... 

5. I am not saying that game is not doomed. Probably it is, if they don't pull the 180 with expansion and 1.06-07. But please ... those proves you guys provide are non scientifical - it is the same as saying god exists using 3rd party thing (the Bible)

Get your head straight. You 2 haven't proven nothing. Game is dying ... but your numbers are HUGE guesses with nothing else but 2 geeks that hate funcom (read my comment on that in other topic) making up "facts". Read a book on argument or something :D

Alexa is one of the more accurate measuring tools of tracking websites. It showed a pretty substantial hit jump on ageofconan.com during the trials. That hit jump amounted to what was the baseline for the previous 4-6 months + 30%, after the trials were over, had there been an increase of subscriptions one would expect that baseline to be higher than it was before the trials. However it isn't. It is basically the same and somewhat lower but only a few %. So we'll just say it was as if the trials didn't occur.

2. Xfire isn't broken just because you say so. Its accurate in AOC like it is accurate in every other program and Funcom was using it to brag about how AOC players were playing more. Now with play time at an all time low and ranked 50th its showing that winbacks didn't winback the majority of those who tried the. Listen, we wouldn't be talking about how AOC is a total failure if it was a smashing success here ok.

3. Winbacks haven't won any substantial number of the 1.1 milliong purchasers of the game who don't play today back. Case closed.

4. Numbers polled by me during my conversations with players. I talked to a bunch of players. I identified 54 who were free-trial players, of those WHEN ASKED only 3 told me they were going to re-sub and stick with AOC. The overwhelming consensus of the free-trials was that AOC still had a lot to get fixed and that the devs needed to make a much better showing. There was no knock your sox off moment for players coming back. Same show as before only stable.

5. Game is Doomed sir. The numbers are statistically sound. Every measurable in AOC is showing consistent steady declines, including the own fucking metrics from Funcom. Hello? Hello? Reading me 5x5? One would think if the company was actually interested in improving their product and rep that they would be pouring all hands on deck into pimping AOC not working on mutiple projects at once with more priority than AOC and an expansion but they've written off AOC which is why you and everybody else should too.

This is a joke right?

1. Lets leave alexa and the fact that it shows just a minor forum increase in WoW on 21st. 

2. This was already answered. AoC has 100k subs (lets say) - and only 900 people are tracked with xfire. That is very weird if you ask me. Either Xfire doesn't track or AoC people don't use it. The portion is simply 2 small . Unreal, imho. How much is Warhammer and LOTRO player number atm?

3. 1.1m ... that is not reality, AoC will never see 1m people

4.That one is a joke. So your poll is not even made here but rather you went to 57 people? Do you know what this statistically means? Nothing more than that you wasted few hours of your time. :D 57 ... dude you are killing me, for real. And I thought making a poll here would be a bad idea :D

5.AoC has the priority. But ... a company cannot rely only on one game. Fuck, even blizzard is doing another MMO (another uber fail argument :D)

And I will ask again. What numbers? What you proved here is that you are not taking a bible, but rather a stoned prophet telling you that god exists. Science, arguments. Read a book really :D

Originally posted by Axeion

Originally posted by LordBonezy

 

2. Xfire isn't broken just because you say so. Its accurate in AOC like it is accurate in every other program and Funcom was using it to brag about how AOC players were playing more. Now with play time at an all time low and ranked 50th its showing that winbacks didn't winback the majority of those who tried the. Listen, we wouldn't be talking about how AOC is a total failure if it was a smashing success here ok.

 

www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php http://www.xfire.com/xf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=234422 if the hyper link doesnt work um seems the vaunted x fire ( which i have ben trying ) has had problems wiht aoc for a good while .as their site admin says "Our original plan was to add DX10 Xfire in Game (XIG) support when Age of Conan first supported it. Unfortunately, we ran into some trouble.

We're still working on it between other projects, but it hasn't been abandoned.

No ETA just yet. That's about all I have. A glimmer of hope..."Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:13 pm

so if ya wount take his word that x fire has problems with aoc how about a x fire site admin?

 

There was no dip in AOC when DX10 launched.  This is one month old msg that was fixed in less than 2 days like most of the client issues with Xfire.  

Alot of games have many diffrent versions of their  client running - That includes games like WOW (DAOC has like 5).  Get a clue how Xfire works before posting excuses that everyone knows is bullshit.

Originally posted by nihce

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

Originally posted by LordBonezy

Originally posted by nihce

 Where have you gotten clasified infos about how many people tried and how many people left free trials and winback program?

 

OMFG pay ATTENTION.

Alexa.com reports the spike during the free trials of hits to the website, it was up about 30% from the average, now at pre-trial levels.

Xfire reports the spike in player hours and in number of hours total played. Went up during the trials, now down, at an all time low.

Funcom's quarterly report, projects declining revenues. They aren't expanding their capital they are losing subscriptions, that is what an MMO is designed to generate, revenue from subscribers. When revenue falls it is directly related to falling subscriptions. Of course if the fucking subscriptions were up, both Xfire numbers, as well as hits on the website would be up, which they are not! Not only that but Funcom would be reporting even the smallest victories that could be seen as victories. 1:2, 1:3, 1:5 players trying the trial, continuing to subscribe.

Fact is that number was polled by me during the free trial while I was paying for the game, and it appeared to be more like 1:20. Numbers like 1:20 or 5% subscribing after trying the game for free, well that is just downright pathetic. Suppose there were 100k subscribing before the trials and another 100k actually did the trial download, which has been reported, less than 10% were re-subbed after trial which is very close to what I found via polling daily during the trial.

The reasons are clear as day to someone who doesn't have a strong bias one way or the other. The game hasn't added value that players want. So they don't pay for things they don't want. Duh. The information is out there, the writitng is on the wall. AOC is fucking DOOMED!

1. Alexa : interesting, but aren't you the one explaining how inaccurate and wrong it is? 

2. Xfire: broken totally. Game does not track dx10 players, dx9 players reporting it is not tracking ...

3. Winbacks are not included in this quarter, as for free trials - when did they start?

4. Numbers polled by you. which forum? this one? if yes that is total and utter failure ... 

5. I am not saying that game is not doomed. Probably it is, if they don't pull the 180 with expansion and 1.06-07. But please ... those proves you guys provide are non scientifical - it is the same as saying god exists using 3rd party thing (the Bible)

Get your head straight. You 2 haven't proven nothing. Game is dying ... but your numbers are HUGE guesses with nothing else but 2 geeks that hate funcom (read my comment on that in other topic) making up "facts". Read a book on argument or something :D

Alexa is one of the more accurate measuring tools of tracking websites. It showed a pretty substantial hit jump on ageofconan.com during the trials. That hit jump amounted to what was the baseline for the previous 4-6 months + 30%, after the trials were over, had there been an increase of subscriptions one would expect that baseline to be higher than it was before the trials. However it isn't. It is basically the same and somewhat lower but only a few %. So we'll just say it was as if the trials didn't occur.

2. Xfire isn't broken just because you say so. Its accurate in AOC like it is accurate in every other program and Funcom was using it to brag about how AOC players were playing more. Now with play time at an all time low and ranked 50th its showing that winbacks didn't winback the majority of those who tried the. Listen, we wouldn't be talking about how AOC is a total failure if it was a smashing success here ok.

3. Winbacks haven't won any substantial number of the 1.1 milliong purchasers of the game who don't play today back. Case closed.

4. Numbers polled by me during my conversations with players. I talked to a bunch of players. I identified 54 who were free-trial players, of those WHEN ASKED only 3 told me they were going to re-sub and stick with AOC. The overwhelming consensus of the free-trials was that AOC still had a lot to get fixed and that the devs needed to make a much better showing. There was no knock your sox off moment for players coming back. Same show as before only stable.

5. Game is Doomed sir. The numbers are statistically sound. Every measurable in AOC is showing consistent steady declines, including the own fucking metrics from Funcom. Hello? Hello? Reading me 5x5? One would think if the company was actually interested in improving their product and rep that they would be pouring all hands on deck into pimping AOC not working on mutiple projects at once with more priority than AOC and an expansion but they've written off AOC which is why you and everybody else should too.

This is a joke right?

1. Lets leave alexa and the fact that it shows just a minor forum increase in WoW on 21st. 

2. This was already answered. AoC has 100k subs (lets say) - and only 900 people are tracked with xfire. That is very weird if you ask me. Either Xfire doesn't track or AoC people don't use it. The portion is simply 2 small . Unreal, imho. How much is Warhammer and LOTRO player number atm?

3. 1.1m ... that is not reality, AoC will never see 1m people

4.That one is a joke. So your poll is not even made here but rather you went to 57 people? Do you know what this statistically means? Nothing more than that you wasted few hours of your time. :D 57 ... dude you are killing me, for real. And I thought making a poll here would be a bad idea :D

5.AoC has the priority. But ... a company cannot rely only on one game. Fuck, even blizzard is doing another MMO (another uber fail argument :D)

And I will ask again. What numbers? What you proved here is that you are not taking a bible, but rather a stoned prophet telling you that god exists. Science, arguments. Read a book really :D

Im sorry but have you any numbers that show AOC is played by more than 100k PPL ? 

The latest report shows even with skipping all sales of boxes that the game has at MAX 90K (considering royalties from Asia ( even tho the game has not launched there) and some funding from the Norwigean Government.  

Im baffled how you try to deny the obvious.  Xfire numbers just support the rest of the statistics ...

 any company that cant stream on any site is the company s fault its not anyone else

if the game numbers of hour on xfire is less then the game ,theres a good reason ,impossible to stream,too boring etc 

one thing is sure if you go on the top spot its wow 

and they do live coverage of wow fight lol

so company that want to be rated on xfire make sure your game can be streamed or better yet be covered live on xfire or any other site that do this if not you only got your own company to blame not xfire lol

 Nope :D. I told you ... I never said I think game is a sucess but you, finatic and bonezy are making fools of yourself not being able to make a valid argument and yet crying about fictional numbers all days. Like I said - making an argument is an art. And you are not exactly an artist. 

About Xfire ... 2 things I found browsing. First is a comment from AoC forums

Xfire will still pick up that your playing the game but their overlay system is currently programmed in DX9 only. People have been requesting the ingame overlay for LOTRO since it got dx10 a year or so ago and it still hasn't been delivered.

And 2nd is http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=116659

Now, I would like to see where it is mentioned that the problem is being fixed. On AoC xfire contest site (hosted by xfire) there is still mentioned that Xfire does not support AoC dx10.