Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by grimfall
 
Well there's a couple of things that bother me about this post.  The first thing is that he says he was an alpha tester, but he was posting critiques on a forum which was then moderated.  That's the first time I've heard of an alpha test that took input in this manner .  At the Alpha stage you should be so open to feedback that a forum shouldn't be used.  If you're using a forum and filtering the content with moderators, you've got way too many alpha testers.
 
The second thing is, that bothered me is that someone let this jerk into alpha and closed beta of their game.  If you can't be mature enough to post in a reasoned manner when playing someone's game for free... maybe you shouldn't be a tester.  You're doing a job and being compensated, act like a grownup.

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He's telling nothing but the truth. Hell, we didn't even open up to having more than two days a week with limited times to test until open beta.

Cryptic ran it like they had set in stone what they wanted the game to be and wouldn't budge on anything that was important. Though you should be thankful we fought so long to get the hotbar increased, otherwise you'd have a max of 7 powers available at one time.

Thanks to you and Slackerboy as well.

You have to love how people read what they want into what you post and then accuse you of things that you aren't guilty of.

I really liked the fact that grimfall just assumed that I posted some hostile stuff and a mod swooped in with rational thinking and quelled the flames of my ignorance. hahahaha

I didn't post in that thread until after IronAngel did, and the only reason I posted was to point out that it seemed closed-minded and self-defeating to only pass on what they thought was relevant. If I were mod and I saw multiple threads about the same issue over and over... guess what? It really doesn't matter how the players worded their discontent. The fact of the matter would be that they are not content with that aspect of the game and would therefore be a relevent issue to bring up to the developers.

It's cool that you resorted to personal attacks and aggression, grimfall... it's the last refuge of the incompetent.

i say if its in beta they changed the xp or powers looks etc. dont matter is beta .. after live and that happens then something to yell about ..    i had a good time in beta and like people i meet . 

Originally posted by xaldraxius

 

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Originally posted by grimfall
 
Well there's a couple of things that bother me about this post.  The first thing is that he says he was an alpha tester, but he was posting critiques on a forum which was then moderated.  That's the first time I've heard of an alpha test that took input in this manner .  At the Alpha stage you should be so open to feedback that a forum shouldn't be used.  If you're using a forum and filtering the content with moderators, you've got way too many alpha testers.
 
The second thing is, that bothered me is that someone let this jerk into alpha and closed beta of their game.  If you can't be mature enough to post in a reasoned manner when playing someone's game for free... maybe you shouldn't be a tester.  You're doing a job and being compensated, act like a grownup.

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He's telling nothing but the truth. Hell, we didn't even open up to having more than two days a week with limited times to test until open beta.

Cryptic ran it like they had set in stone what they wanted the game to be and wouldn't budge on anything that was important. Though you should be thankful we fought so long to get the hotbar increased, otherwise you'd have a max of 7 powers available at one time.

This pretty much sums up my experience in beta. I tried over a dozen times to provide really good constructive criticism and lots of others replied back with ideas of their own. But Cryptic was interested in making what they wanted to make.  It was like taking a leak in the ocean for all I was concerned.  Hopefully, this will flop hard and fast and they can learn from their mistakes while their is still time to listen to their testers for STO!

They responded to bug reports, yeah. Too bad they never responded and fixed any of the content issues, oh wait, there isn't any content. Just the same ol' kill x for y, rinse and repeat. S4 League has more appeal than CO.

I played just before the game stopped Beta and Superjump still damaged the player using the ability.  Yes thats right, you jumped in the air like the hulk and then took damage when you landed due to poor implementation.

I suppose that is what you get when you sell your beta.

I'm surprised no one has seen that he was subtly jabbing at the people who were the most vocal.  It was hidden, but it was there. He sort of covered it up by thanking all of the testers afterward, though.

I am not a Roper fan.  If you enjoy games that he has recently helped make, then that's great, I can appreciate that and I hope you have a blast with CO.  If, like me, you take what he says and read between the lines, you can see that he gives a compliment, insults people, then covers it up with another compliment.

I am neutral when it comes to Roper, but I will say that I will be passing on CO.  As I said above, if you enjoy it, great.  I don't find spamming 2-3 buttons fun though.

Originally posted by Aganazer

Originally posted by MacScarfe

All this hate for Mr Roper (all over these forums) et al reminds me of an old joke.

Tourist walks into a Welsh pub and begins to get to know some of the locals, eventually he's accepted and introduced to everyone.

"This is Jones the Smith, this is Jones the Barrel Maker, this is Jones the Undertaker, this is Jones the ......" says the landlord.

"Alright, alright"; interupts the man being introduced; "For the love of god, i mean it's so unfair. I've built a hospital! But do they call me Jones the hospital builder? NOOOOO. I've built 10 schools, but do they call me Jones the educator? NOOOOOO i've built over 1000 houses but do they call me Jones the builder???? NOOOOOO"

"But you shag one goat ....."

 

LOL! That's hilarious. I do feel bad for him sometimes. How would YOU like to be reminded of the biggest mistake you ever made every time you go outside?

I honestly don't know what he did that was so bad in the first place. I really LIKED HGL and played it often. I got hundreds of hours of play time out of it and got to spend time with my friends and family the whole time. Its a game that I still wish I could revisit from time to time.

He did to HGL what Godager (or whatever his name was) did to AoC - overhyped it, made promises of things hitting release up until the day it came out that were false, and continued his spin on things until Flagship went down.

They consistently were giving info about the big new patch, which was supposed to add huge new gameplay areas, loads of content, and finally the PvP systems, he continued to release news reports about "test server for a couple more weeks then it hits live servers", then out of nowhere, we see on OTHER WEBSITES that Flagship went out of business. The mods were not even allowed to confirm if it was true or false, and people who were suckered in to subscriptions were paying for nothing. If they did not reguarly check the forums they had no idea what was going on - and the majority of new content in the patches were supposed to be subscription only.

He said there was loads of content they have been holding back in a "huge patch" that was going to hit before retail, which never even happened.

They never even released the final patch publically before shutting down, not even the test server version, for players to at least enjoy on their single player version of the game.

Not to mention they milked the lifetime subs which did not even last a year. Those people were straight up robbed.

It's a shame too. I enjoyed the game. It had a fun basis. Basic classes that could have been great with some tweaking. Very good basis for an equip system assuming they added more variety. Alot of potential for some great PvP. Really could have been the next Diablo. But in the end, it ended up making many of its customers feel lied to and robbed.