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  Silvermink

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8/26/09 11:46:05 AM#21
Originally posted by linren

One of the problems with society these days is that people will categorize anything undesirable as a disease and offer treatments for it.  Example:  Obesity.  Some people simply have a bit more body fat but will be forced into a fit shape because being obese no matter how mild is frowned upon by the fit people.

 

People classified as medically obese have actual medical risks associated with their weight. There is a difference between feeling overweight and being obese.

 

I know I have a addiction problem. If you took away my computer I'd just find something else to latch onto (ie. the tv). It's not an internet or computer addiction, it's an information addiction. Anything to keep my mind occupied.

  Kenaoshi

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8/26/09 11:49:47 AM#22

better waste this money with some hookers instead? =p

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  linren

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8/26/09 12:00:06 PM#23
Originally posted by Silvermink
Originally posted by linren

One of the problems with society these days is that people will categorize anything undesirable as a disease and offer treatments for it.  Example:  Obesity.  Some people simply have a bit more body fat but will be forced into a fit shape because being obese no matter how mild is frowned upon by the fit people.

 

People classified as medically obese have actual medical risks associated with their weight. There is a difference between feeling overweight and being obese.

 

I know I have a addiction problem. If you took away my computer I'd just find something else to latch onto (ie. the tv). It's not an internet or computer addiction, it's an information addiction. Anything to keep my mind occupied.

 

I wrote 3 short paragraphs and you only quoted one, plus I never said obesity cannot be a medical risk.  I simply stated that only more extreme cases will get some sort of benefit from these clinical "treatments", but the rest of the people that are no where near the danger zone are also chastise for it.  Which was the content of my whole response.

Stop taking my words out of context.  First paragraph was about the social trend with MILD obesity as example, I did state about the exception of extreme cases in the last sentence on the ones you did not quote.

  linren

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8/26/09 12:03:43 PM#24
Originally posted by linren

One of the problems with society these days is that people will categorize anything undesirable as a disease and offer treatments for it.  Example:  Obesity.  Some people simply have a bit more body fat but will be forced into a fit shape because being obese no matter how mild is frowned upon by the fit people.

When someone does not share the same value people oust them from the community, it has been that way since the beginning and it is the same now.  Our technology evolved, but social structures have not changed much in essence.

I am sure someone might actually benefit from these "treatments", but I'd have to say maybe it is only for extreme cases.

 

 

This is my whole reply earlier, i'd appreciate it if next time someone respond to my reply at least read all the way to the end.  When taking a quote out please only use partial when edited out part does not contradict your point, other wise please use the full quote.

  GoldenDog

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8/26/09 12:40:49 PM#25

How is being addicted to the internet any different then saying i'm addicted to drawing?

 

I spend a lot of time on a sketch pad! OH NOES!  Quick, someone take 14k of mine and don't let me buy any more paper!

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  Silvermink

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8/26/09 12:44:04 PM#26
Originally posted by linren
Originally posted by Silvermink
Originally posted by linren

One of the problems with society these days is that people will categorize anything undesirable as a disease and offer treatments for it.  Example:  Obesity.  Some people simply have a bit more body fat but will be forced into a fit shape because being obese no matter how mild is frowned upon by the fit people.

 

People classified as medically obese have actual medical risks associated with their weight. There is a difference between feeling overweight and being obese.

 

I know I have a addiction problem. If you took away my computer I'd just find something else to latch onto (ie. the tv). It's not an internet or computer addiction, it's an information addiction. Anything to keep my mind occupied.

 

I wrote 3 short paragraphs and you only quoted one, plus I never said obesity cannot be a medical risk.  I simply stated that only more extreme cases will get some sort of benefit from these clinical "treatments", but the rest of the people that are no where near the danger zone are also chastise for it.  Which was the content of my whole response.

Stop taking my words out of context.  First paragraph was about the social trend with MILD obesity as example, I did state about the exception of extreme cases in the last sentence on the ones you did not quote.

 

You missed the point of my statement. Obese is a medical definition. There isn't a mild version. You are obese or not. Being obese isn't being outside the norm, it is dangerous. Addictions are the same thing. Playing a few hours everyday might get someone to joke they are addicted. Missing meals and sleep because you can't stop playing isn't out of norm, it is bad.

  Reklaw

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8/26/09 1:25:00 PM#27

It's a good idea, and something tels me after reading many replies that most don't even know what a addict is.

A addict is someone who will spend all his time (in this case the internet) If he or she has a job that person will call in sick very often, just to be on the net, there have been many cases where people actualy got drawbacks from not being able to use the .net, similar to reactions one would see from drug addicts. So how is such a clinic not a good idea?

Someone who spends his free time on the .net is NOT a addicts, someone who's hobby is gaming is not a addict, a person starts to be a addict when his hobby or what ever is taking control of his or her life.

Just do not reflect it on yourself, but try to think more about what addiction really means.........

And to answer the topic question: No I will not spend $ 14,500 to become internet free, but the idea of a clinic for real addicts is a good idea, as addiction is nasty and it seems to mess up many people live's, and that's regardles the addiction.

 

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  Isturi

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8/26/09 2:52:21 PM#28
Originally posted by drbaltazar

 mm !you could play golf on the net !oh im such a genius! einstein here i come!

 

I thought bout that but I heard something called physical activity. I guess I should give it a try someday. But then again I don't know if I can get rid of my internet addiction.

 

  nickelpat

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8/26/09 5:08:50 PM#29
Originally posted by Fearlessbro

Addicted to the net? Ah well just join the other 20% of the population :D

 

Either the Internet or pot...

 

Would i pay that much to lose my addiction to the net? hell no more like just ring up my ISP and say im not paying anymore, you'd have to be crazy to pay that amount.

Ding ding ding, cat in a tree.

Just shut it off.

And Zwiggy, that comment made my day...

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  krieblood

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8/26/09 5:19:35 PM#30
Originally posted by Isturi

 

Yes I admit it I am addicted to the internet. Yes I know it is a Nero drug. Yes my life is incomplete with out my net but to spend $14,500 to become less addicted or even internet free. I hope they go belly up. No kidding Yes I can see a need for such a service but come on now???

 

I would rather play golf and that is saying much then to pay that much money for this kind of service. I'm still trying to figure out a good address for the ball. Only then I may play the game of golf and give up my internet.

 

Link:

www.techspot.com/news/35960-restart-first-us-internet-addiction-clinic-opens.html

 

To the MODS sorry lol I should of put this in the off topic Discussion.

 

 

I just say leave us he fuck alone.

We arnt hurting anyone we arnt out being dicks we are at home on our computers doing what we enjoy if they want to tag Addiction to it where is the recovery clinic for them i dont think they have a Fascist Control Freak Clinic.

 

 

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  helioth

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8/26/09 5:26:50 PM#31
Originally posted by krieblood

I just say leave us he fuck alone.

We arnt hurting anyone we arnt out being dicks we are at home on our computers doing what we enjoy if they want to tag Addiction to it where is the recovery clinic for them i dont think they have a Fascist Control Freak Clinic.

 

 

 

good one,

  Saerain

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8/27/09 3:45:39 AM#32

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  rikilii

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8/27/09 9:32:26 PM#33

The whole idea of being "internet free" is idiotic.

That's like trying to be information and communication free.

30 years ago, we got our information from books, newspaper, radio, and television, and we communicated by writing letters and talking on the phone. 

Now, a lot of that has been replaced by the internet.  So what's the problem?

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  Reklaw

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8/28/09 12:20:24 AM#34
Originally posted by rikilii

The whole idea of being "internet free" is idiotic.

That's like trying to be information and communication free.

30 years ago, we got our information from books, newspaper, radio, and television, and we communicated by writing letters and talking on the phone. 

Now, a lot of that has been replaced by the internet.  So what's the problem?


 

Only problem here is that people seem not to understand what real addiciton is, as some even try to reflect it on themselfs.

Once some addiction is messing up your life then it's time to seek help, if it's just entertainment you seek then no harm done. But then again it seems people do not want to really think about it seeing most replies on this topic.

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  Lansid

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8/28/09 12:35:08 AM#35

Bwahahahahahahah, I've seen the outcome of people going to these clinics... just do a search on "chinese boy killed in internet  clinic"

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  Xyfire1

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8/28/09 12:44:34 AM#36

When I read the name of this thread. At first I thought, free internet?! Then I thought, perhaps my dreams will come true but this guy has poor grammar skills!

I clicked, hoping that for 14,500 I could get internet for the rest of my life without paying another bill related to my ISP. But Lo', it is quite the opposite.

 

I think this clinic is counter-progressive. Look at Japan, their social lives revolve around technology through complex systems of social networking. In fact, some Japanese don't waste time meeting people and use an "instant e-harmony" service so to speak. They get a text from someone who saw their pic through the network and they start texting. Then the receiver of said text asks for a pic of the contact and so forth.

The internet is helping the world, not destroying it.

 

Wait... Why is there a link to a clinic that forces you to refuse to the internet? Oh the irony...

 

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8/28/09 2:45:45 AM#37

The cost of a 80.6  years WOW subscription? lol who came up with that idiotic comparison. Better to stop buying the newspaper, in 80 years you would have spent around 50.000$

  rikilii

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8/28/09 6:52:49 AM#38
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by rikilii

The whole idea of being "internet free" is idiotic.

That's like trying to be information and communication free.

30 years ago, we got our information from books, newspaper, radio, and television, and we communicated by writing letters and talking on the phone. 

Now, a lot of that has been replaced by the internet.  So what's the problem?


 

Only problem here is that people seem not to understand what real addiciton is, as some even try to reflect it on themselfs.

Once some addiction is messing up your life then it's time to seek help, if it's just entertainment you seek then no harm done. But then again it seems people do not want to really think about it seeing most replies on this topic.

 

I still don't get how this is a new phenomenon.  People who spend all their time surfing the web are no different than people who spend all their time watching tv, with their nose in a book, or on the phone.  I never heard about anyone being a "book addict".

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  User Deleted
8/28/09 6:58:36 AM#39
Originally posted by rikilii
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by rikilii

The whole idea of being "internet free" is idiotic.

That's like trying to be information and communication free.

30 years ago, we got our information from books, newspaper, radio, and television, and we communicated by writing letters and talking on the phone. 

Now, a lot of that has been replaced by the internet.  So what's the problem?


 

Only problem here is that people seem not to understand what real addiciton is, as some even try to reflect it on themselfs.

Once some addiction is messing up your life then it's time to seek help, if it's just entertainment you seek then no harm done. But then again it seems people do not want to really think about it seeing most replies on this topic.

 

I still don't get how this is a new phenomenon.  People who spend all their time surfing the web are no different than people who spend all their time watching tv, with their nose in a book, or on the phone.  I never heard about anyone being a "book addict".

 

Exactly. And guess what messes with our lifes most of anything? WORK. We spend 8+ hours working every F day and nobody thinks of that as a problem. But if you spend 1/4 of that time playing a videogame OMG it's and addiction!!!

  Silvermink

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8/28/09 10:24:16 AM#40
Originally posted by altairzq
Originally posted by rikilii
Originally posted by Reklaw
Originally posted by rikilii

The whole idea of being "internet free" is idiotic.

That's like trying to be information and communication free.

30 years ago, we got our information from books, newspaper, radio, and television, and we communicated by writing letters and talking on the phone. 

Now, a lot of that has been replaced by the internet.  So what's the problem?


 

Only problem here is that people seem not to understand what real addiciton is, as some even try to reflect it on themselfs.

Once some addiction is messing up your life then it's time to seek help, if it's just entertainment you seek then no harm done. But then again it seems people do not want to really think about it seeing most replies on this topic.

 

I still don't get how this is a new phenomenon.  People who spend all their time surfing the web are no different than people who spend all their time watching tv, with their nose in a book, or on the phone.  I never heard about anyone being a "book addict".

 

Exactly. And guess what messes with our lifes most of anything? WORK. We spend 8+ hours working every F day and nobody thinks of that as a problem. But if you spend 1/4 of that time playing a videogame OMG it's and addiction!!!

Never heard of people having stress heart attacks from working 120 hour work weeks? Anyone that spends "ALL" their time doing 1 thing has a problem. Usually those people are sedintary, and get little to no exercise. This causes long term medical problems. Sunlight (in moderation) is also good for your health. Addiction isn't about what you like to do alot. It's what you can't stop doing.


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