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  MMO_Doubter

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8/24/09 8:35:21 AM#1

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  Varny

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Posts: 786

8/24/09 8:41:23 AM#2

Well they're there to say look at everything I've done in the game. If that doesn't appeal to you then why should you care about them? Just ignore it and move on.

  mklinic

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8/24/09 8:45:49 AM#3
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

-mklinic

"There's a point I think we're missing.
It's in the air we raise our fists in."
-from Behind Closed Doors by Rise Against

  User Deleted
8/24/09 9:31:53 AM#4

Achievement points earned in SC2 can be spent on Avatars and Decals for for units.

But as yet no use for them in wow.

  MMO_Doubter

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8/24/09 9:33:27 AM#5
Originally posted by mklinic
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

LOL. To be honest, that matches what I have been told in-game.

Talk about the brainless grind to end all brainless grinds. Blizzard really is run by marketing geniuses.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  arctarus

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8/24/09 9:34:27 AM#6

To get into a raiding guild, they will be looking into your achievements points. At least 3k and above...

 

 

 

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  Teala

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8/24/09 9:36:46 AM#7

Some achievements are mindless and pointless, while others give you access to more quest, more gear, more mounts and enchantments and crafting stuff.  It isn't all pointless.  

  MMO_Doubter

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8/24/09 9:37:45 AM#8
Originally posted by arctarus

To get into a raiding guild, they will be looking into your achievements points. At least 3k and above...

 

 

 

LOL. My response to such a demand would be loud and not at all polite.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  warty

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Joined: 3/02/08
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8/24/09 9:41:19 AM#9
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by mklinic
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

LOL. To be honest, that matches what I have been told in-game.

Talk about the brainless grind to end all brainless grinds. Blizzard really is run by marketing geniuses.

 

So basically, if they had no points attatched to them, youd do it? You sir, are almost ingeniously ignorant.

 

Of all the WoW hater points, achievement whining has got to be the most useless drivvel to ever be spewed onto forums. The only reason I can see that people would dislike them is because it shows just how poor a player you actually are. Seriously why is such bile shown towards them, it allowes people to see what they and others have done. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

They added 10points of 'value' to them so instead of counting through hundreds of tags, you can simply see 8020points, oh man thats so fucking carebear isnt it? In my day mmos made you track you own and you were only allowed to write them down on purple post-iys IF they were previously on the bag on a mongolian tree frog, and you had to write backwards, without a mirror!

 

Get over yourself its fucking pathetic. DO you even actually play the game?

 

THis is the OP - whining about AP

Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!

  User Deleted
8/24/09 9:50:28 AM#10
Originally posted by warty
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by mklinic
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

LOL. To be honest, that matches what I have been told in-game.

Talk about the brainless grind to end all brainless grinds. Blizzard really is run by marketing geniuses.

 

So basically, if they had no points attatched to them, youd do it? You sir, are almost ingeniously ignorant.

 

Of all the WoW hater points, achievement whining has got to be the most useless drivvel to ever be spewed onto forums. The only reason I can see that people would dislike them is because it shows just how poor a player you actually are. Seriously why is such bile shown towards them, it allowes people to see what they and others have done. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

They added 10points of 'value' to them so instead of counting through hundreds of tags, you can simply see 8020points, oh man thats so fucking carebear isnt it? In my day mmos made you track you own and you were only allowed to write them down on purple post-iys IF they were previously on the bag on a mongolian tree frog, and you had to write backwards, without a mirror!

 

Get over yourself its fucking pathetic. DO you even actually play the game?

 

THis is the OP - whining about AP

 

To be honest I agree with the guy. Why should I grind achievement points to join some raid guild? Why do I need useless achievement points to raid? Those achievements points tells nothing about how I am as a player or a person. Wether I got 3k points or none shouldn't matter. The only way to judge a person is to play with him/her. Achievement points are useless as a guide and guilds that use them as such is not worth the effort to join or even play with.

  MMO_Doubter

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Joined: 7/28/09
Posts: 5133

 
8/24/09 9:57:03 AM#11
Originally posted by warty

So basically, if they had no points attatched to them, youd do it? You sir, are almost ingeniously ignorant.

Are you still learning English? My point is that the points aren't worth anything, so why do the achievements?

 Of all the WoW hater points, achievement whining has got to be the most useless drivvel to ever be spewed onto forums. The only reason I can see that people would dislike them is because it shows just how poor a player you actually are. Seriously why is such bile shown towards them, it allowes people to see what they and others have done. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

It allows people to see that you have (for example) traveled through every area in a particular zone. WHAT A FANTASTIC ACCOMPLISHMENT!

They should be called sucker points. Look - you waste time doing stuff which doesn't advance your character in any way. The devs at Blizzard have to be laughing their butts off at 'achievement' points.

They added 10points of 'value' to them so instead of counting through hundreds of tags, you can simply see 8020points, oh man thats so fucking carebear isnt it? In my day mmos made you track you own and you were only allowed to write them down on purple post-iys IF they were previously on the bag on a mongolian tree frog, and you had to write backwards, without a mirror!

Interesting insane rant, there.

Get over yourself its fucking pathetic. DO you even actually play the game?

 I do. I was playing earlier today. Doing more BGs these days, as they now give XP as well as honour and marks. Value for effort - see how that works?


 

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  warty

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 494

8/24/09 9:58:03 AM#12

Suckered right into his strawman, dontcha think. You really reckon decent guilds, (decent people, not elitist whiny guilds) caer how MANY you have? Its where they are that count. I mean if you expect to join a raid guild and say, youve got maybe 2 heroics done? Dont you think that they might go hey, how comes youve only done Nexus?

Your reply would be more telling than a whole sit down and talk. Refusal? They aint guna carry your sorry ass until youve leeched the gear. Cant do them? Then you are pretty bad, they aint guna carry you here either. Nobody will go? You are either lazy or incredibly rude. I am on one of the least populated servers (xavius) and can get a HC any time of day, any day. Because I am known for being a good player and fun to play with. If you made it to 80 and have no friends it isnt the games fault, no matter how much you protest.

 

Now if a guild asked for the most ridiculous collectiom, such as from those bosses that they themselves havnt killed then fair enough, they are being stupid, but seeing as we are simply trolling to bash WoW then we wont differenciate between diferent situations will we?

Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!

  warty

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Joined: 3/02/08
Posts: 494

8/24/09 10:00:24 AM#13
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

It allows people to see that you have (for example) traveled through every area in a particular zone. WHAT A FANTASTIC ACCOMPLISHMENT!


 

 

Because it is a well known fact that all top end raid guilds fucking require, nay DEMAND that you have every area explored and dont care about the raid achievements, you fucking tool

 

edit: wait, wait, you actually belive what you are saying, dont you?

Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!

  Lille7

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Joined: 12/08/08
Posts: 285

8/24/09 10:04:19 AM#14
Originally posted by slask777
Originally posted by warty
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by mklinic
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

LOL. To be honest, that matches what I have been told in-game.

Talk about the brainless grind to end all brainless grinds. Blizzard really is run by marketing geniuses.

 

So basically, if they had no points attatched to them, youd do it? You sir, are almost ingeniously ignorant.

 

Of all the WoW hater points, achievement whining has got to be the most useless drivvel to ever be spewed onto forums. The only reason I can see that people would dislike them is because it shows just how poor a player you actually are. Seriously why is such bile shown towards them, it allowes people to see what they and others have done. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

They added 10points of 'value' to them so instead of counting through hundreds of tags, you can simply see 8020points, oh man thats so fucking carebear isnt it? In my day mmos made you track you own and you were only allowed to write them down on purple post-iys IF they were previously on the bag on a mongolian tree frog, and you had to write backwards, without a mirror!

 

Get over yourself its fucking pathetic. DO you even actually play the game?

 

THis is the OP - whining about AP

 

To be honest I agree with the guy. Why should I grind achievement points to join some raid guild? Why do I need useless achievement points to raid? Those achievements points tells nothing about how I am as a player or a person. Wether I got 3k points or none shouldn't matter. The only way to judge a person is to play with him/her. Achievement points are useless as a guide and guilds that use them as such is not worth the effort to join or even play with.

 

So don't play with them, why whine about it?

And most guilds who require achievements require specific ones, like have you done this and that Hard Mode.

  MMO_Doubter

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Joined: 7/28/09
Posts: 5133

 
8/24/09 10:06:36 AM#15
Originally posted by warty

Suckered right into his strawman, dontcha think. You really reckon decent guilds, (decent people, not elitist whiny guilds) caer how MANY you have? Its where they are that count. I mean if you expect to join a raid guild and say, youve got maybe 2 heroics done? Dont you think that they might go hey, how comes youve only done Nexus?

Your reply would be more telling than a whole sit down and talk. Refusal? They aint guna carry your sorry ass until youve leeched the gear. Cant do them? Then you are pretty bad, they aint guna carry you here either. Nobody will go? You are either lazy or incredibly rude. I am on one of the least populated servers (xavius) and can get a HC any time of day, any day. Because I am known for being a good player and fun to play with. If you made it to 80 and have no friends it isnt the games fault, no matter how much you protest.


I can give a list of a couple dozen players who have grouped with me and know I am a skilled and friendly player, and a good guild member. I don 't need achievement points to speak for me.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

  warty

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Posts: 494

8/24/09 10:10:05 AM#16

But that isnt what I'm saying you cheesey pizza face. FFS, im done with you troll, I accept your declaration of inability to play and sympathize with your anger towards blizzard for highlighting how bad you are.

The very fact you cannot see why a decent raiding guild would appreciate being able to see what bosses jonny-x says he has killed is exactly why you are so angry. I can list fucking 50 minimum but guess what, Im not so pathetic as to start a game of my daddy will. Then again, someone so angry/stupid as you probably doesnt have one.

Playing polished, lag free, feature complete games is carebear. Whining about a game you hate but still play is hardcore man!

  mklinic

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Joined: 7/29/05
Posts: 1344

8/24/09 10:12:14 AM#17
Originally posted by Lille7

So don't play with them, why whine about it?

And most guilds who require achievements require specific ones, like have you done this and that Hard Mode.

 

This makes more sense then a raw point count. I mean, quality of quantity right? If someone were required to have 3000+ achievement points, I would be more concerned that they were at least relevant (i.e. heroic achievements or something along those lines). For example, cooking may have it's purpose, but there are something like 270 achievement points around cooking that would pad the value.

Really, points or not, they are still interesting and provide a sense of accomplishment and that is their goal I believe. At the end of the day, a player can quantify their total achievements in a single point value. It would be nice if achievement points could be used for something like account-bound items or something along those lines, but that's just my opinion.

-mklinic

"There's a point I think we're missing.
It's in the air we raise our fists in."
-from Behind Closed Doors by Rise Against

  User Deleted
8/24/09 10:17:21 AM#18
Originally posted by Lille7
Originally posted by slask777
Originally posted by warty
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter
Originally posted by mklinic
Originally posted by MMO_Doubter

Any actual USE for them yet? I'd enjoy doing them if they meant anything useful. Titles and vanity pets mean little to me.

 

Best i could find is www.wowwiki.com/Achievement_point

"An achievement point is a unit that accumulates based on different types of achievements. However, there are currently no plans to allow spending them on anything"

Not sure why they would bother putting a point value on them if there is no purpose of the points. Just seems like extra coding to me. Also, before someone else says it, yeah, it's a wiki. Maybe there is a more official source available.
 

LOL. To be honest, that matches what I have been told in-game.

Talk about the brainless grind to end all brainless grinds. Blizzard really is run by marketing geniuses.

 

So basically, if they had no points attatched to them, youd do it? You sir, are almost ingeniously ignorant.

 

Of all the WoW hater points, achievement whining has got to be the most useless drivvel to ever be spewed onto forums. The only reason I can see that people would dislike them is because it shows just how poor a player you actually are. Seriously why is such bile shown towards them, it allowes people to see what they and others have done. BIG FUCKING DEAL.

They added 10points of 'value' to them so instead of counting through hundreds of tags, you can simply see 8020points, oh man thats so fucking carebear isnt it? In my day mmos made you track you own and you were only allowed to write them down on purple post-iys IF they were previously on the bag on a mongolian tree frog, and you had to write backwards, without a mirror!

 

Get over yourself its fucking pathetic. DO you even actually play the game?

 

THis is the OP - whining about AP

 

To be honest I agree with the guy. Why should I grind achievement points to join some raid guild? Why do I need useless achievement points to raid? Those achievements points tells nothing about how I am as a player or a person. Wether I got 3k points or none shouldn't matter. The only way to judge a person is to play with him/her. Achievement points are useless as a guide and guilds that use them as such is not worth the effort to join or even play with.

 

So don't play with them, why whine about it?

And most guilds who require achievements require specific ones, like have you done this and that Hard Mode.

 

I'm not whining about it. I just stated my opinion. As I also wrote, I don't play with people like that. Your point being?

Achiement points are useless as a guide, it's as simple as that. At risk to sound like a broken record, the only way to figure out if a player is good or bad is to bloody play with them. If people are worried that they may have to 'carry' whatever person through a raid or two, they don't deserve that persons help and should take a good look at themselfes and their prioritites. Seriously, the gear grind in WoW tend to make people into asocial asshats

  Remii718

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8/24/09 10:22:39 AM#19

Achievement system targets that small group of completionists in world of warcraft. The players that tried to do every quest, raise every faction. It's more of a "Look what I did!!!" feature. It can be completely avoided and it won't affect your gameplay at all.

While this feature isn't targetted to everyone I like how it's atleast well done and isn't a requirement. Achievements like "Make love, not warcraft" are really cool and a nice suprise.

If the look at me aspect of achievements isn't for you maybe you should suggest a reward vendor for the feature but right now most people seem to think it's pretty nice. I myself have been working on the Old raids achievements since all the ones I did weren't updated when I returned to WoW.

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  MMO_Doubter

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8/24/09 10:23:33 AM#20
Originally posted by slask777 

I'm not whining about it. I just stated my opinion. As I also wrote, I don't play with people like that. Your point being?

Achiement points are useless as a guide, it's as simple as that. At risk to sound like a broken record, the only way to figure out if a player is good or bad is to bloody play with them. If people are worried that they may have to 'carry' whatever person through a raid or two, they don't deserve that persons help and should take a good look at themselfes and their prioritites. Seriously, the gear grind in WoW tend to make people into asocial asshats

Not to mention that the achievements for various instances don't actually show if that player was contributing effectively, or being walked through.

 

Anyway:

The point of the thread was to find out if the POINTS had any use. Apparently, they do not, so they are a worthless waste of time.

"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2

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