I started a thread about how the new WoW expansion was very similar to the NGE.  It lasted about 10 minutes before it was deleted.  It appears that maybe Blizzard is about to make the same mistake SOE did with the NGE. WoW's new expansion is very similar to the NGE. My statement is extreme however the effect on the playerbase will be very similar.  /shame

Or maybe it's because this Expansion is nothing like the NGE. Just saying.

no sorry, the effect wont be the same at all.   Also all that WoW is doing is changing the landscape, not the classes.  So no it is not like the NGE at all...infact the NGE did not change any of the games landscape so even on that front it is different to this WoW expansion.

Granted, I find repackaging the entire first part of the game and calling it an xpac silly, and lol wow how can people eat this up, they are not changing combat by a huge amount.  They are not making classes more worthless than before.

It seemed that many agreed with me on the boards. Change of this magnitude of a MMO is not a good thing.  It's just my opinion.

You got a lot of people to respond agreeably within 10 minutes of posting? I find that a little hard to swallow. Again, there are no similarities between this and NGE. Cataclysm is a well forewarned expansion with virtually no change to the fundamental gameplay and has very little focus on the classes. People know what they're buying.

Originally posted by Swanea

Granted, I find repackaging the entire first part of the game and calling it an xpac silly, and lol wow how can people eat this up, they are not changing combat by a huge amount.  They are not making classes more worthless than before.

Considering all the original redone WoW zones are free whats your problem? In EVE online they repackage the old game each time with changed and call them expansions... I don't see the difference.

so the new wow expansion is going to make the game like wow?

Originally posted by PreCU

so the new wow expansion is going to make the game like wow?

lol

Originally posted by Pomy

I started a thread about how the new WoW expansion was very similar to the NGE.  It lasted about 10 minutes before it was deleted.  It appears that maybe Blizzard is about to make the same mistake SOE did with the NGE. WoW's new expansion is very similar to the NGE. My statement is extreme however the effect on the playerbase will be very similar.  /shame

Because you've played it and have a clue what you're talking about. Because discussing other games on Blizzard forums isn't against their rules.

/facepalm

 mm catactlysm will bring lot of old player back and new too that felt overwelmed for various reason,i left in june and ill probably be back on cataclysm and i can not believe im the only one who will be back the lore will be different 

you say its the same lol have you listenned to the whole week end of blizzcon if so you know that everything change from race to class etc ,hell we player whine when theres change to class system etc 

lol check the bogus whining that will come out when cataclysm lunch.but with all i eard at blizzcon it will be wow 2 

and by the time cata release microsoft techno will probably be ready ,do be surpirsed if wow is the first game to ever take advantage of that tech if it does men you never played wow on that level 1000 vs 1000 yep next year if microsoft is ready   we ll probably see it 

but then blizzard often delay so it will probably be more like september 2011 

As a player since internal Alpha, this change is as bad as the NGE or worse.
 
Lets face it Blizzard is all about the money when it was about the players. Bad thing? Not for a company but for a fanbase to lose everything it is.
 
No change of classes? They are redoing the talent system adding two new races which by all lore standards don't match either faction. That is lore breaking. No matter how they try to swing the story, Worgen want blood they don't want the alliance. Goblins want money, and we all know Horde are not paying them, they will never fit or fly with anyone who knows the story.
 
Lets move on, Tauren Paladin? So what, they are going to bend the light to their will like the Belfs? Sorry not buying it they are nature.
 
Lets look into how Dwarves do not believe or use magic yet now all of a sudden they will have Mage? Sorry not buying it.
 
I can go on.
 
This game is self destructing it hold on or let go, either way it is on it's way out. You cannot change the fundamentals of a game and its lore and warp it to appease a certain player group. This is an expansion to make the most money they can in the shortest time possible before its over.
 
The PvE to PvP server transfers were to never happen, they did.
 
Than the breaker, faction transfers. Sorry this made an already unbalanced game that much so, all I have seen is Alliance players wanting to switch to Horde because Horde are "better" right now. and Seeing Blood Elves are the most popular race in the game that does not help, now will the fact Goblins will have what looks to be the best looking mounts with this new expansion. Total imbalance and destruction of a total faction, yes people will play both, just think of Horde to Ally ratio being what it used to be before Burning Crusade when Alliance was outnumbered, except lasting into yet another expansion.
 
My sub is active, so don't tell me I don't know what i am talking about, I came up with a few of the fundamental ideas all you mindless fanboi sheep hold dearly in the game. I been here since Internal Alpha, 5 almost 6 years now. I seen it all, or so I thought.
 
Final thoughts it is time for WoW to kill itself. The only game that can kill WoW is WoW itself. They want to make room for their other games starting with Starcraft  2 and than Diablo 3 when WoW kills itself they will announce their new MMO. They want people to move on to it, but in the mean time push profits in their ever getting easier game to the highest pinnacle of all time.
 
Time to open your eyes and see the truth. All information is based on facts. Don't swing it, but you may need to take heed to this warning. This expansion will change everything we held dear to the Warcraft universe and WoW, you never know what you had until its gone. This is WoW:NGE

I wish people would stop tagging everything as an NGE when they clearly lack the understanding of what went on with the NGE.

If blizzard tells 11.5 million people they don't want their business anymore, because they are going to attract a much larger playerbase with a completely redesigned game, then yes it might share similarities with the NGE. 

Originally posted by spyder2k5

 
No change of classes? They are redoing the talent system adding two new races which by all lore standards don't match either faction. That is lore breaking. No matter how they try to swing the story, Worgen want blood they don't want the alliance. Goblins want money, and we all know Horde are not paying them, they will never fit or fly with anyone who knows the story.
 
 

So once the lore is there it can not change no matter what? The story can not move on at all? Get real, people change their minds. If you think about the Cataclsym they'll want to group up to help survive the events.

Originally posted by Daffid011

I wish people would stop tagging everything as an NGE when they clearly lack the understanding of what went on with the NGE.

 

If blizzard tells 11.5 million people they don't want their business anymore, because they are going to attract a much larger playerbase with a completely redesigned game, then yes it might share similarities with the NGE. 

 

 

Agreed

It seems that every game that brings out an expansion is getting tagged with the NGE

and as for this expansion lore breaking WTF u talking about they made the lore so they can do what they want with it

OMG what is it with people tagging games that make minor changes or add new things as an SOE NGE?  LMAO.   WoW's new expansion is not going to be an NGE at all.   Does the OP even know what the NGE was all about when it comes to where it originated from?   Do they know that that when SOE pulled the NGE on SWG it was totally rewriting the game basically.   It was removing all but 9 of the original 32 classes offered in SWG.  That they were also making it a level based game instead of a skill based game and that much of the core game died the day they unleashed NGE on SWG.   No I do not think they understand what the NGE did to SWG.  

What BLizzard is doing is not an NGE and not even in the same context or universe for that matter.  LMAO!

Originally posted by ncryan10

Originally posted by spyder2k5

 
No change of classes? They are redoing the talent system adding two new races which by all lore standards don't match either faction. That is lore breaking. No matter how they try to swing the story, Worgen want blood they don't want the alliance. Goblins want money, and we all know Horde are not paying them, they will never fit or fly with anyone who knows the story.
 
 

 

So once the lore is there it can not change no matter what? The story can not move on at all? Get real, people change their minds. If you think about the Cataclsym they'll want to group up to help survive the events.

True. Also it's Blizzards bloody IP/lore, they can what ever the hell they want with it. 

Originally posted by Pomy

I started a thread about how the new WoW expansion was very similar to the NGE.  It lasted about 10 minutes before it was deleted.  It appears that maybe Blizzard is about to make the same mistake SOE did with the NGE. WoW's new expansion is very similar to the NGE. My statement is extreme however the effect on the playerbase will be very similar.  /shame

how can you compare blizzard to soe? blizzard WANTS my business and delivers a quality product. i never cared for wow but this new expansion actually sounds cool. i cant think of any other game where they actually changed the landscape to such an degree.

Originally posted by Daffid011

I wish people would stop tagging everything as an NGE when they clearly lack the understanding of what went on with the NGE.

Exactly.

If nothing else, Blizzard is announcing these changes and putting out a lot of information about them before the release. This is something that did not happen with CU/NGE. There are other differences people can list, but it all comes down to one simple idea: A perceived big change does not equal an CU/NGE.

Think the OP is smoking some bad stuff. To compare what SOE did to SWG, to what Blizzard is gonna do to WOW is no where near even close and then to bring this comparision to a SWG forum....WOW! Besides they already put certain NPC's in the game to cover the lore changes.