Originally posted by lordpenquin

The only problem with your comparison is this:

Champions endgame: PvE

Aion endgame: PvP

I hate pvp games and will never play a game who's endgame is PvP centric.  Aion looks great and has good PvE but it's just like guild wars - a leveling tool to get you to PvP.  Champions endgame is PvE and I will never have to PvP if I don't want to.  You're pretty much forced to PvP in Aion because that is the structure of the game.

 

Want to know the sad part about that statement? Aion's end game has more PVE than Champions (which is PVE based).

i think the comparison to the two games was great. good review of both games i'm going to have to agree and go with aion

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by lordpenquin

The only problem with your comparison is this:

Champions endgame: PvE

Aion endgame: PvP

I hate pvp games and will never play a game who's endgame is PvP centric.  Aion looks great and has good PvE but it's just like guild wars - a leveling tool to get you to PvP.  Champions endgame is PvE and I will never have to PvP if I don't want to.  You're pretty much forced to PvP in Aion because that is the structure of the game.

 

 

Want to know the sad part about that statement? Aion's end game has more PVE than Champions (which is PVE based).

It didn't until about a month ago, amazing what an extra year of development will do.

Originally posted by comerb

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by lordpenquin

The only problem with your comparison is this:

Champions endgame: PvE

Aion endgame: PvP

I hate pvp games and will never play a game who's endgame is PvP centric.  Aion looks great and has good PvE but it's just like guild wars - a leveling tool to get you to PvP.  Champions endgame is PvE and I will never have to PvP if I don't want to.  You're pretty much forced to PvP in Aion because that is the structure of the game.

 

 

Want to know the sad part about that statement? Aion's end game has more PVE than Champions (which is PVE based).

 

It didn't until about a month ago, amazing what an extra year of development will do.

It is amazing what a year of development will do. And 2 years, etc. When CO has 1 year of development, Aion will have 2. CO will never catch up, NCsoft is very good about adding content and patches.

I came here and expected everyone to vouch for Champions Online. Except what I found was the majority would rather play Aion. These games can be compared but it's not a fair comparison when Aion has technically been out for a year. I expect good things from Champions but in the end it's just a superhero niche MMO. Aion is targetting a larger market while I suspect CO will get 100k subscribers, I also expect Aion to get 350k+. I believe both games will do very well however I'll be playing Aion.

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by comerb

Originally posted by Jimmydean

Originally posted by lordpenquin

The only problem with your comparison is this:

Champions endgame: PvE

Aion endgame: PvP

I hate pvp games and will never play a game who's endgame is PvP centric.  Aion looks great and has good PvE but it's just like guild wars - a leveling tool to get you to PvP.  Champions endgame is PvE and I will never have to PvP if I don't want to.  You're pretty much forced to PvP in Aion because that is the structure of the game.

 

 

Want to know the sad part about that statement? Aion's end game has more PVE than Champions (which is PVE based).

 

It didn't until about a month ago, amazing what an extra year of development will do.

 

It is amazing what a year of development will do. And 2 years, etc. When CO has 1 year of development, Aion will have 2. CO will never catch up, NCsoft is very good about adding content and patches.

Expansions make your point null and void.  Consider how much wasted(in the sense nobody does it anymore) content WoW has because of expansions.  Cryptic is no slouch themselves... and they won't have to go through a translation process everytime they want to port a patch/expansion to the english speaking servers.

Very linear way of thinking.

Originally posted by FastTx

I came here and expected everyone to vouch for Champions Online. Except what I found was the majority would rather play Aion. These games can be compared but it's not a fair comparison when Aion has technically been out for a year. I expect good things from Champions but in the end it's just a superhero niche MMO. Aion is targetting a larger market while I suspect CO will get 100k subscribers, I also expect Aion to get 350k+. I believe both games will do very well however I'll be playing Aion.

Most folks that come to MMORPG and post are either

1) Fairly Harcore Gamers... or

2) Trolls

Hard-core gamers tend to favor more traditional oriented time consuming games... ala Aion.  They're also the ones that are more likely to pour over a forum board and critique everything.  The folks who really enjoy CO are probably sitting in the character creator right now... or throwing tanks at villains.

i cant even get the installer for champions online to work lol..

i have however played in aions CB, and enjoy it very much... So my choice is obvious.. Aion

Originally posted by fervor

I noticed the overuse of 'now' right away too.  It's a strange habit, especially because it's completely unnecessary.  I don't think I've ever seen it before.

Anyways...

I agree with some of your points, but there is a major factor you should consider.

The fact that Aion has been out for so long in Asia provides a lot of benefits.  Many of the reasons why you picked Aion is primarily due to the fact that it's a more mature game.  Give CO some time to mature and you might change your mind.

For example, you mentioned stability.  I'm sure that stability is something that Cryptic is working hard to fix.  Stability is a common problem for new MMO's.

Why do you hate CO PvP?  I think it's a lot of fun.  Do you hate it because of the imbalances?  Cryptic is working hard to fix the overpowered skills.

How about the endgame?  For CO, there is a lot we don't know yet.

sounds to me like you are just making excuses....

People want to play a mature, polished MMO now, not in 6 months. For that, Aion is definitely the way to go, hands down.

CO is just not going to be a very popular MMO. the game plays just like COH/COV, and will attract the same type of people. It has already been shown that superhero MMOs tend to do just "decent"... not even "well". the community will never be that large.

Aion on the other hand, is drawing directly from the WoW pool, which we can all agree is immense. I can easily see Aion capturing all wow players that enjoy the PVE aspects of WOW, but are looking for a little more hardcore, PVP-centric experience. this is exactly what Aion provides, a similar experience to WOW, but with superior PVP endgame.

Originally posted by comerb

I don't understand how being an immortal super being angel/demon somehow justifies you killing "x" of "y" enemy or being a delivery boy.  If anything it makes more sense for a mortal superhero to be doing that sort of stuff as opposed to an immortal demi-god. A fantasy world is no more "chaotic or barbaric" than a world filled with evil super-villains each plotting their own schemes of mass destruction or power mongering... you are bending your perception and making excuses for one game and condemning another for no reason other that it suits your purpose.

 

For the record I wasn't making that comment specifically about Aion as I haven't played it and really know nothing of it's lore... as a general rule the chaotic and 'primitve' world of a typical fantasy game means charging around as a thug is still a valid (maybe even unavoidable) way of life..... However in a contemporary Superhero world - the super agent thug that CO forces you to be is, thankfully a rare and for the most part entirely inappropriate creature. Cryptics second bite of the cherry has lost more than it has gained in the area of theme conviction, involvement and immersion, which is sad.

From the responses it seems Aion is the better game in those areas that matter to me, although i do need to be grabbed by the theme - no one just plays and mmo because its there do they??

Ultimately neither game comes accross as overly progressive, lets hope some mmo's with real imagination and respect for their IP's are on the horizon. (DCUO, SWToR, APB are at least talking/prioritising the right things at the mo imo)

i realy thought i was only going to read this thread but i have to point out one thing about the NA version of the game (which i will be playing) . the thing is you are judgeing everything on the 1.0 version of the game instead of the 1.5 version of the NA release which will remove the graphics problems and a lot of the grind by adding in tons of quests and such in the end makeing aion the winner im not gonna stay and fight out any problems anyone has with my post as i have had my fill of  getting sucked into trollers posts in threads like this and am fairly sick of it have a good thread everyone :)