Originally posted by raystantz

Darkfall reminds me of this scenario...

 

Your stranded on a deserted island..

 

the only civilization is you, and 2 chicks.

 

one chick is extremely hot, brunette.. gorgeous...

the other is overweight, smelly, and just plain ugly.... she's blonde...

 

You have to choose which one you want to mate with. The extremely hot chick or the ugly fat chick.

 

there's only one issue. Your into Blondes, not brunettes...

 

But, you only have 2 choices!

 

The people who enjoy Darkfall, chose the fat ugly smelly blonde.. because.. despite all the "bad".. well at least she's blonde!

.............until on the wedding night when he lifts her frock and discovers that  "she's" a blond with a bit more spunk in "her" than most women

And he ends up looking at the last turkey in the shop

Originally posted by egotrip ............until on the wedding night when he lifts her frock and discovers that  "she's" a blond with a bit more spunk in "her" than most women

And he ends up looking at the last turkey in the shop

OMG ! Did that happen to you too ?

Nice analogy though. I think AV always secretly rely on the lack of PVP FFA MMO's coming out to justify there low quality.

Originally posted by tombear81

 I think AV always secretly rely on the lack of PVP FFA MMO's coming out to justify there low quality.

I don't think DFO was ever meant to succeed in the "Western" market.  EU/NA are to offset further development costs.  AV has stated the launch of EU and NA exceeded their expectations, but the numbers hardly add up.   (revenue vs development/operating costs)

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

Originally posted by ProfRed

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

Weren t you also all excited for Aion as well. Serious question for ya, did Aion bore you after awhile as it did me. I played DFO up to a few months after release, and i m desperatly seeking some pvp in an open world. Has it improved that much, because I was very jaded with it s release.

Originally posted by Leucent
 

Weren t you also all excited for Aion as well. Serious question for ya, did Aion bore you after awhile as it did me. I played DFO up to a few months after release, and i m desperatly seeking some pvp in an open world. Has it improved that much, because I was very jaded with it s release.

If you didn't like it a few months ago, you won't like it now. 

Originally posted by ProfRed

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

And just who are you to judge people? I have my reasons to dislike the game, They are sufficient to me. I discuss them clearly and honestly.

Why is your experience so important that it is the parameter by which all other experiences must be compared with? No one else has problems, bug, lag, etc in the game?

You are funny.

Honestly I get excited about most new MMO releases.  I will play Aion for the mid to end game PvP and RvR.  However it is pretty much meaningless like an arcade game.  You don't really have too much impact on the world besides wavering control over fortresses which are meant to change hands.  There is some fun to be had there mid to late game.

I love Darkfall because it is a sandbox where players impact the world directly.  I think it has come a long way since launch honestly, and I think with the next expansion it will takes more steps in the right direction.  My only main gripe is that the player housing isn't freely placed in the wilderness.  Still I think it is a great game and it is pretty level now, but will start growing with the next couple expansions.

I was also excited about WAR, AoC, SWG, FFXI, etc., etc.  I always find my moneys worth and some fun in games, but there are rarely games that I return to and stick with for long periods of time.  EVE, and Darkfall are 2 games I plan on playing for a while along with Aion for however long it entertains me.  My guess is 2-5 months before I get bored.  I doubt i'll go back after that because nothing really changes all that much.  Maybe with expansions if it's good enough i'll play it for a bit, but I think Darkfall and EVE will continue on past that just like EVE has done for many years.

Darkfall became jaded to me because of the business practices and some minor things, but I did enjoy the game.  The stuff they are working on for the next expansion addresses some of the major problems I had with the game, and I feel like the devs ideas for where they want to take DF line up with a game that I will enjoy for a long time. 

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

And just who are you to judge people? I have my reasons to dislike the game, They are sufficient to me. I discuss them clearly and honestly.

Why is your experience so important that it is the parameter by which all other experiences must be compared with? No one else has problems, bug, lag, etc in the game?

You are funny.

I didn't judge anyone I just said most people that dislike the game don't play it.  I wasn't discrediting you at all.  I actually like your posts.

Originally posted by raystantz

I tried it about a month or so ago, and it was pretty much an empty shell of a world with a few gankers running about with blood walled/afk macroed skills with not much else for you to do.

 

I'm assuming its still the same and none of these issues have been fixed yet.

yeah its exactly the same. except now you have a chance of finding a house deed from chests and if you do wow.....  and the villages are lame, after a certain period of time it just gets taken over by another clan so you end up paying them to keep ur home if you have one.

and if you actually want to play the game you gotta grind skills for a few weeks to a month before you can actually stand for more then 2 seconds in a fight.

everything is exactly the same.

Originally posted by ProfRed

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

And just who are you to judge people? I have my reasons to dislike the game, They are sufficient to me. I discuss them clearly and honestly.

Why is your experience so important that it is the parameter by which all other experiences must be compared with? No one else has problems, bug, lag, etc in the game?

You are funny.

 

I didn't judge anyone I just said most people that dislike the game don't play it.  I wasn't discrediting you at all.  I actually like your posts.

I was pretty sure you weren't aiming at me. However, why people continue to fuel the "fan x hater" story? Let your arguments in favor of the game do the talking, instead of aiming at people who are vocal about their dislike. It's a free forum, both sides can voice their opinions.

Did you consider that some people actually have good reasons to become, and I quote, "bitter emo trolls"?

Sorry I was out of line.  I usually get excited about upcoming games and I end up defending their potential against complete trolls who just troll to troll so I get a little defensive sometimes.

Your view is pertinent and I respect it.  I just wanted to say that their is a lot of fun to be had here, and I would hate for someone that is like me out there and is on the fence to miss it because of naysayers and doombringers who don't even play the game.

For people who focus only on the negatives of this game like grinding skills it is all about the journey especially in a sandbox.  The point of sandboxes is to do what you want, and get better at it over time.  The skill gains can't be ridiculously fast or else it wouldn't feel real.  I feel they are fine now and they are about to get a ridiculous boost.  There are a lot of positives in this game that can easily get overshadowed. 

I guess I am just having a blast playing and trying to convey that.  Not everything is bad with Darkfall.  Honestly amongst all PS3, Xbox 360, and PC titles (I have gamefly sub so I play a lot of games) Darkfall is one of those games that I really cherish right now, and I haven't had this kind of joy logging into a game in quite a while.  Hope everyone can find the game that makes them content you know.  The game that they can log into and just be happy playing.

I enjoy DF however I wont pay twice for it, give me a resonable transfer fee and im in no iffs or butts

The game is heading in the right direction, a true sandbox. The expansions and balancing combat are what the game needs, and the devs know what theyre doing.

So to answer your question, DF seems much better now than at release, and keeps getting better as the months pass.

I tried Aion, Lotro and Vanguard recently. They dont inspire me. DF on the other hand has that freedom that I need in my game

MO well...not looking good atm, but we shall see at release.

 I've been playing Darkfall for 6+ months and I still love it. I believe that all you need is patience, a good group of people to play with, and the game will be fun. I mean, exciting things happen in Darkfall all the time. I don't want to list all those exciting things because I've posted many in the past and don't feel like repeating myself.

Another reason the game is fun because I know two other people in real life that play it. We can discuss the game and work together and share experiences since we play in the same clan.

During these months when I was playing Darkfall, I tried other games as well like EVE online, AOC, and Aion Closed beta weekends. EVE was the closest resemblance to DF and the others were just boring. My opinion is that MMORPG's these days lack diversity and the multiplayer aspect becomes a liability. Take single player RPG's for example, they are not limited by the multiplayer aspect and could add elements to the game that would be impossible for MMos.

Just throwing out opinions.

Originally posted by ProfRed

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

Hehe I play and slam Darkfall. Heck, I even have two accounts.

My problems are the slow leveling, huge grind, lack of pvp, lack of skillsystem, bad GUI, slow travel and lack of players. I nerdrage a lot over these things, because I think Darkfall would have been a huge success if these issues were fixed.

Darkfall is a great game despite the aforementioned problems. It is the only mmo I've played for the last six months. I just hope the new patch will lessen some of the grind and let the people have pvp.

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Originally posted by ProfRed

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

 

Hehe I play and slam Darkfall. Heck, I even have two accounts.

 

My problems are the slow leveling, huge grind, lack of pvp, lack of skillsystem, bad GUI, slow travel and lack of players. I nerdrage a lot over these things, because I think Darkfall would have been a huge success if these issues were fixed.

 

Darkfall is a great game despite the aforementioned problems. It is the only mmo I've played for the last six months. I just hope the new patch will lessen some of the grind and let the people have pvp.

Where are you located? I keep seeing this 'lack of players' claim, but have no trouble finding players to fight.

Originally posted by GeniusSage

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Originally posted by ProfRed

I think most of the people who slam on Darkfall don't play.  It has come a long way and in my opinion it is not terrible at all.  It is actually a nice refreshing break from all the cloned crap on the market right now. 

It is extremely stable, the mobs difficulty is scaled 100 times better than before, the population has spread out and political alliances have formed on both servers making for an interesting scenario.  There is some very cool stuff coming in the next free expansion, and progression is getting sped up in PvE. 

I get great ping and FPS for my setup with how high I have the graphics and looks amazing.  It is unlike any other game out there.  I wouldn't listen to the bitter people here who have nothing better to do than slam the game without opening their eyes to the fact that it could actually be improving and be worth playing.  It is turning into a great experience that I think people would love if they weren't such bitter emo trolls.

 

Hehe I play and slam Darkfall. Heck, I even have two accounts.

 

My problems are the slow leveling, huge grind, lack of pvp, lack of skillsystem, bad GUI, slow travel and lack of players. I nerdrage a lot over these things, because I think Darkfall would have been a huge success if these issues were fixed.

 

Darkfall is a great game despite the aforementioned problems. It is the only mmo I've played for the last six months. I just hope the new patch will lessen some of the grind and let the people have pvp.

Where are you located? I keep seeing this 'lack of players' claim, but have no trouble finding players to fight.

Is it true theres plenty to fight. I haven t played in awhile and am very curious to see the amount of pvp available.

Originally posted by Leucent

Is it true theres plenty to fight. I haven t played in awhile and am very curious to see the amount of pvp available.

There are areas that are barren throughout the day other than a few travellers or people searching for PvP - there are also other areas that are almost constantly patrolled by PvP'ers, PvE'ers or harvesters. The last couple of months I've frequented Rubaiyat (PvP can always be found here), Mahirim lands (some parts are barren but if you check close to clan cities and NPC cities, you'll always find people), Dwarf lands to the north (there are many PvE'ers and miners in these areas due to fairly easy mobspawns and large quantity of metal nodes) and Yssam (always people in and around the cities). 

If you're not running around aimlessly, you'll always be able to find people.

Originally posted by GeniusSage

Where are you located? I keep seeing this 'lack of players' claim, but have no trouble finding players to fight.

I live in Alfar land, and I mean all of Alfar land.

I live in the maternity ward of one of the most popular races and I see the lack of players every day. I'm accually amazed if there is a player at the spawn I want to grind. Yesterday I had a new record of players at the same spot the last two months. We were seven players at the same spot at Bel Melek bank. The reason was simple. They thought AV had implemented the 3 x skill gain to lessen the grind.

You know most of us Darkfallers absolutly abhor the huge and useless skillgrind.

Originally posted by ProfRed

Honestly I get excited about most new MMO releases.  I will play Aion for the mid to end game PvP and RvR.  However it is pretty much meaningless like an arcade game.  You don't really have too much impact on the world besides wavering control over fortresses which are meant to change hands.  There is some fun to be had there mid to late game.

I love Darkfall because it is a sandbox where players impact the world directly.  I think it has come a long way since launch honestly, and I think with the next expansion it will takes more steps in the right direction.  My only main gripe is that the player housing isn't freely placed in the wilderness.  Still I think it is a great game and it is pretty level now, but will start growing with the next couple expansions.

I was also excited about WAR, AoC, SWG, FFXI, etc., etc.  I always find my moneys worth and some fun in games, but there are rarely games that I return to and stick with for long periods of time.  EVE, and Darkfall are 2 games I plan on playing for a while along with Aion for however long it entertains me.  My guess is 2-5 months before I get bored.  I doubt i'll go back after that because nothing really changes all that much.  Maybe with expansions if it's good enough i'll play it for a bit, but I think Darkfall and EVE will continue on past that just like EVE has done for many years.

Darkfall became jaded to me because of the business practices and some minor things, but I did enjoy the game.  The stuff they are working on for the next expansion addresses some of the major problems I had with the game, and I feel like the devs ideas for where they want to take DF line up with a game that I will enjoy for a long time. 

 

How exactly do DF players impact the world? The only impact I can see is they capture a village/town. What else can they change in the world? How is it different then capturing fortresses in Aion?