I tried it about a month or so ago, and it was pretty much an empty shell of a world with a few gankers running about with blood walled/afk macroed skills with not much else for you to do.

I'm assuming its still the same and none of these issues have been fixed yet.

 Having suffered heavy burnout from EvE I decided to give Darfall a try.

I have only been on under 2 weeks but I love it so far.

Join a clan and you will see all kinds of people, if you try and go solo you will be alone. We have plenty of PvP (evenwhem we don't want or expect it) and PVE. 

I chose not to Bloodwall and I have been hearing that it may soon be over for good. Crafting  and gathering does alot for your stats and is enjoyable.

I suggest joining a clan and your "empty" outlook will change.

Yeah, you will have a great time until someone that you can't see (because he is under the earth) hits you for 2 billion damage by using an exploit and various 3rd party programs that the main site still insist don't exsist (even if they do nobody really uses them)! Enjoy and good luck, you will need it. Ahh what may have been.

OK you just went through some long posts on why DF was not for you. They have patched in nothing new in a month as all the devs have been on rotating vacations thanks to people who bought 2 copies. Its still the same game.

Before you PVP seriously, get these skills up:

Lesser Magic to 50 or 75, level 75 is for launch which launches you up in the air to get onto places and 50 is to unlock greater magic

Greater Magic to 50 so you can unlock elemental spells

Archery to 75 to get sharpshooter which increases archery damage

A melee weapon to 75 to get melee mastery

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Before you PVP seriously, get these skills up:

Lesser Magic to 50 or 75, level 75 is for launch which launches you up in the air to get onto places and 50 is to unlock greater magic

Greater Magic to 50 so you can unlock elemental spells

Archery to 75 to get sharpshooter which increases archery damage

A melee weapon to 75 to get melee mastery

 

and how much time will I have to spend at my pc grinding in order to do such? I'm guessing quite a long time.

It is terrible, it was fun first 2 weeks I played. Til I realized I need to play atleast 6 months as a casual 4-5 hours a day to even get to pvp at a good rate. Magic is everything in this game. Its not even fun.

There was a drop in population while waiting on the NA market launch on the EU server.  Now both servers are seeing population increases (from what I read in various guild forums, not here). 

Originally posted by Nicoo

It is terrible, it was fun first 2 weeks I played. Til I realized I need to play atleast 6 months as a casual 4-5 hours a day to even get to pvp at a good rate. Magic is everything in this game. Its not even fun.

This guy is terrible, I saw him in my Alfar race chat complaining nonstop about the game and not doing anything about it. Which means he is just standing around thinking about how much magic he would need. And no you don't need 6 months, all you need is 1-2 lvl 50 nukes and you'll be fine, it's easy.

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Originally posted by Nicoo

It is terrible, it was fun first 2 weeks I played. Til I realized I need to play atleast 6 months as a casual 4-5 hours a day to even get to pvp at a good rate. Magic is everything in this game. Its not even fun.

 

This guy is terrible, I saw him in my Alfar race chat complaining nonstop about the game and not doing anything about it. Which means he is just standing around thinking about how much magic he would need. And no you don't need 6 months, all you need is 1-2 lvl 50 nukes and you'll be fine, it's easy.

You don't need to convince us, you need to convince Aventurine.

Obviously Aventurine disagrees with your assessment.

If they didn't then why are they continually re-adjusting it just about every single large patch?  Are you saying that they won't be re-adjusting it yet again when they finally get around to the next patch... "expansion"?

If something was just fine, or easy... it wouldn't be re-adjusted every time.  So, you might want to let Aventurine know that you think it's fine and easy.  For some reason, it seems that Aventurine disagrees with you. 

Originally posted by raystantz

I tried it about a month or so ago, and it was pretty much an empty shell of a world with a few gankers running about with blood walled/afk macroed skills with not much else for you to do.

 

I'm assuming its still the same and none of these issues have been fixed yet.

still the same crap, blood walls and macro's, every one in the city I was at stood there for hours just spamming the same spells to lvl magic. Like wtf thats ment to be fun?

Originally posted by parrotpholk

all the devs have been on rotating vacations

Isn't that a roundabout way of say that they can't afford to pay them because they're bleeding money, so they're laying off half the team at a time for a week to keep the wage bill down?

Originally posted by Maughann

Originally posted by parrotpholk

all the devs have been on rotating vacations

Isn't that a roundabout way of say that they can't afford to pay them because they're bleeding money, so they're laying off half the team at a time for a week to keep the wage bill down?

I think you're a lot closer to the truth than many fans would like to admit.

No sane MMO developer voluntarily lets large portions of their development staff go on "vacation" less than a week after they've just opened a new server in a new region. 

Tasos and gang have been more silent than usual in the last 2 months.  The fixes/updates/patches/"expansions" have slowed down to a crawl.  The most recent "fixes" have been band-aid nerfs at best. 

Everything points to a very much reduced development staff. 

Originally posted by xzyax

I think you're a lot closer to the truth than many fans would like to admit.

 

No sane MMO developer...

sorry, you lost me right there...

Originally posted by mklinic

Originally posted by xzyax

I think you're a lot closer to the truth than many fans would like to admit.

 

No sane MMO developer...

 

sorry, you lost me right there...

Point taken.  And I feel that xzyax is right on the money in that post.  AV is probably reducing staff.  Delaying any official announcement by saying people are taking vacations is status-quo in many industries.

Originally posted by indiramourn

Originally posted by mklinic

Originally posted by xzyax

I think you're a lot closer to the truth than many fans would like to admit.

 

No sane MMO developer...

 

sorry, you lost me right there...

 

Point taken.  And I feel that xzyax is right on the money in that post.  AV is probably reducing staff.  Delaying any official announcement by saying people are taking vacations is status-quo in many industries.

Even the most ardent of supporters must admit that sales for the NA server must have been below expectations. In fact I remember a certain poster here predicting the NA server would be sold out in 4 hours. Well... as the BUY NOW button is evidence to... it's not there yet even after a month+ of sales.
 

Unfortunately for Aventurine, I think the NA was it's last hurrah.  The month-long plus hiatus of the bulk of it's developers is just further proof that the future is indeed looking grim for the developers of Aventurine.

The silver-lining behind all this is that Aventurine going belly-up is probably the best thing that could happen to DarkFall.  DarkFall might stand a chance of getting picked up by a competent developer, and realize at least a portion of it's potential. 

Originally posted by xzyax

Even the most ardent of supporters must admit that sales for the NA server must have been below expectations. In fact I remember a certain poster here predicting the NA server would be sold out in 4 hours. Well... as the BUY NOW button is evidence to... it's not there yet even after a month+ of sales.

Unfortunately for Aventurine, I think the NA was it's last hurrah.  The month-long plus hiatus of the bulk of it's developers is just further proof that the future is indeed looking grim for the developers of Aventurine.

The silver-lining behind all this is that Aventurine going belly-up is probably the best thing that could happen to DarkFall.  DarkFall might stand a chance of getting picked up by a competent developer, and realize at least a portion of it's potential. 

What an utterly horrible thought.   Just the thought of being subjected to the large corporate souless gaming comapnies make me shiver, but obviously there is a huge market for cookie cutter watered down no death consequnce games.    Any way, as Mark Twain said "Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated" is appropriate to quote here.   While those of us on the NA server are having the most fun the majority of us have had in ten years, you guys are playing DFO Forum, which is a game in itself.

On a related note, I'd genuinely be interested to know from  those of you who love to comment on DFO frequently while not appearing to like it or play it, what game(s) you do like, if any.

Have a nice day. -CC

Originally posted by StrixMaxima

........ Slighted people can go to great lengths to get even.

Classic StrixMaxima. I'll use your insight as my Signature, as it explains so much of what I read here. Thank you and hope those it applies to get over  whatever "it" is,  one day. heh.

 

Originally posted by ozy1

Originally posted by raystantz

I tried it about a month or so ago, and it was pretty much an empty shell of a world with a few gankers running about with blood walled/afk macroed skills with not much else for you to do.

 

I'm assuming its still the same and none of these issues have been fixed yet.

 

still the same crap, blood walls and macro's, every one in the city I was at stood there for hours just spamming the same spells to lvl magic. Like wtf thats ment to be fun?

To be fair, certain other games make you collect 15 bear asses from bears with a drop rate of 10% to give to some NPC who sends you to the next NPC who wants you to collect 15 tiger asses with a drop rate of 5%, who then sends you to another NPC... all the way to level 80. In Darkfall you can level your skills by PVE, by PKing players, or by hiding in towns to macro if you are too afraid to do the first 2.

Originally posted by samf

Originally posted by ozy1

Originally posted by raystantz

I tried it about a month or so ago, and it was pretty much an empty shell of a world with a few gankers running about with blood walled/afk macroed skills with not much else for you to do.

 

I'm assuming its still the same and none of these issues have been fixed yet.

 

still the same crap, blood walls and macro's, every one in the city I was at stood there for hours just spamming the same spells to lvl magic. Like wtf thats ment to be fun?

 

To be fair, certain other games make you collect 15 bear asses from bears with a drop rate of 10% to give to some NPC who sends you to the next NPC who wants you to collect 15 tiger asses with a drop rate of 5%, who then sends you to another NPC... all the way to level 80. In Darkfall you can level your skills by PVE, by PKing players, or by hiding in towns to macro if you are too afraid to do the first 2.

To be even more fair those certain other games have this mechanism incorporated inside their game machine intentionally as part of their level progress whilst Darkfall allowed this to happen just because they didn't exactly think everything through (a.k.a bad game design) .....................

Unless ofc you want to change what you said and claim that the game was built around  macroing

Honestly, I wouldn't touch it until there is some type of trial.  This game has way too much controversy attached to it at this time.  The concepts are good for us who prefer sandbox, but for a game with these concepts you really need a large, profitable company to back it due to the time it a solid game.  These games attract more exploits than your typical themepark style and therefore requires a greater deal of money, time, and skills to make it playable.  I just don't think DF has that backing.  But I applaud them for getting the ball rolling again!