Most of yesterday was spent trying to patch the game, so not very many people actually got to play it.

Now that we can actually play, expect to see comments on the actual gameplay coming in. The only thing I've been able to test so far was the patcher, which everyone knows is a steaming pile of crap.

Originally posted by LordDraekon

Originally posted by xcalibur

Originally posted by LordDraekon

Let's see, the Swinging travel power is fun and your character has fingers instead of a mitten. The Power whatever training center is a great idea. Apart from those things, I found the game to be severely lacking on all counts. The bottom line is that you are playing a game designed for a console version that will likely never see the light of day. If you want to have the opportunity to pay more to play this game than any higher-quality game on the market, go for it.

Basically, Cryptic has created a game for people with excess cash and very low expectations.

 

Way to insult anyone that likes it. 

From looking at your post history I can see that you had already dismissed the game months ago.

I get it, it's not WoW, you hate Bill and Jack, and it has MT...but you don't have to insult people that might like features of it.

Should I be impressed that you went to all the trouble to check my previous posts, cupcake? Pity you're not of a mindset to actually read them and comprehend anything beyond your narrow-minded adoration of this shiny new thing. I remember you. You were in love with WAR once upon a time. How's that working out for you now? Wonder what you'll be in love with 6 months from now when you grow disenchanted with this one? Or I wonder, will you even buy it or do you just feel important posting like you're your current love's biggest blind fan? That's the trouble with people like you. You can't stand people who have opposing viewpoints. If anything i've posted on this game or any other is inaccurate, then please enlighten the class. Otherwise, go back to trying to convince the curious and the unwary (and possible even yourself) that this half-finished attempt at a game is the next big thing.
 

 

No, I have no problem with opposing viewpoints.  I have a problem with people who can't just say that they don't like something without having to convince everyone else that they should hate it too.  You can look at the current US health care debate for plenty of real-world examples :)

I did like the comic book feel to the game, customization  and the travel powers were fun. Other than that I just thought it would be more exciting.

What Im noticing of the posts is that nearly all of the supporters did not play in Closed Beta.

So many "Ive been playing for 2 hours and its AWESOME" type posts.

While the Closed Beta testers that have been playing for months are saying its bad.

Hmm, who to believe? Someone who has played through all the content the game has to offer or someone who is 10 minutes out of the tutorial?

I wont be getting Champions Online. The convoluted process it went through to arrive where it is now clearly had an impact on the game. Also, the way Cryptic handled CoH after release doesnt inspire hope for the future of this game.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

What Im noticing of the posts is that nearly all of the supporters did not play in Closed Beta.

So many "Ive been playing for 2 hours and its AWESOME" type posts.

While the Closed Beta testers that have been playing for months are saying its bad.

Hmm, who to believe? Someone who has played through all the content the game has to offer or someone who is 10 minutes out of the tutorial?

I wont be getting Champions Online. The convoluted process it went through to arrive where it is now clearly had an impact on the game. Also, the way Cryptic handled CoH after release doesnt inspire hope for the future of this game.

*raises hand* I was in closed beta and ive posted some good things about the game.  Also, before the boards were merged (closed beta with public) there werent really too many rumblings about people disliking the game.  Actually many closed beta testers were enjoying it, but thats not to say those that didnt enjoy it just moved on and didnt feel the need to push an agenda on the CO forums some folks are here.

but what Im noticing is nearly all the people who do not like the game were not closed beta testers. 

I just played for the first time today for a couple of hours, having already preordered with the 6 month subscription to go along with that.  Im probably not going to play much if anymore at all until the 3 day headstart.  I like what I have experienced and dont want to overplay it on characters that will be wiped. 

I played last night after I got home from work. Played for about 6 hours I think.

I've been playing COH for years and was excited for CO but that was a negative as much as it was a positive I think.

CO is different from COH, thats not good different or bad different just different. I'm still "getting to grips" with the character creator. Main reason is that it's just soooo expansive. There are a huge amount of options in there but I still found my self looking for a particular piece of gear or look I used in COH.

I played passed the opening tutorial last night and got my travel power - acrobatics and I have to say I was very impressed. Very easy to use and really well implemented I had my character jumping/rolling and back-flipping around the place in quick time and I really like the ability to try a power before locking it as your choice.

I'm still trying to define my "look" within CO again becuase it's a different style to COH which I have got used to over time.

I do like what I've played so far and am actively looking forward to play again tonight. Tonight however I'm going to try "forget" all I know about CO and stop comparing the two..... see how I get on.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

What Im noticing of the posts is that nearly all of the supporters did not play in Closed Beta.

So many "Ive been playing for 2 hours and its AWESOME" type posts.

While the Closed Beta testers that have been playing for months are saying its bad.

Hmm, who to believe? Someone who has played through all the content the game has to offer or someone who is 10 minutes out of the tutorial?

I wont be getting Champions Online. The convoluted process it went through to arrive where it is now clearly had an impact on the game. Also, the way Cryptic handled CoH after release doesnt inspire hope for the future of this game.

That's awesome, cause I've been noticing the exact opposite.  I think you're cherry-picking posts you want to prove your point because "zomg the patcher didn't work on the first day of open beta".  You realize that's the reason for open betas right?  The actual GAME has been very solid with hardly any problems.

As  a prior closed beta member, the beta forums where always generally positive.  Most people enjoyed the game... and 95% of the arguments where generally about two different ways of making it better.  The only negative complaint that ever came up that was generally championed by the majority was the lack of teaming at low levels, and that's been somewhat alleviated by the adjustment of difficulty across the boards.

I love how everyone is just making shit up about the lifetime subs at the moment.... NOTHING is stopping you from playing open beta before you buy one. NOTHING. You have until September 1st to make up your mind.

The game is fun. Which is something a lot of other games are missing right now. You can min/max if you want, or you can do your own thing and try to create story and theme driven characters. Combat is just as exciting as every other MMO at the low levels (not sure about the high ones) and the graphics are actually very good if your system can handle them. I play at fully maxed on 1920x1200 and the game looks amazing.

Originally posted by Xiaoki

What Im noticing of the posts is that nearly all of the supporters did not play in Closed Beta.

So many "Ive been playing for 2 hours and its AWESOME" type posts.

While the Closed Beta testers that have been playing for months are saying its bad.

Hmm, who to believe? Someone who has played through all the content the game has to offer or someone who is 10 minutes out of the tutorial?

I wont be getting Champions Online. The convoluted process it went through to arrive where it is now clearly had an impact on the game. Also, the way Cryptic handled CoH after release doesnt inspire hope for the future of this game.

You realize that closed beta does not mean they actually played. A lot of people giving bad reviews logged in, played an earlier version and decided they didnt like it, then logged out for good and started sprewing flamebait that "the game sucks!"

Honestly I really love the graphic style of this game.  I love the attempt at a single server even if it creates a ton of instances.  I like the pace of combat even if it is monotomous.

These are the things I like about the game.

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Originally posted by tyanya It looks very pretty, Millenium City is a real jewel (? spelling ^^). The team at cryptic have spent a lot of effort in avatar customisation and power sets, unfortunately they forgot to design a world you could use that customisation in, no matter what your design there's only one thing to do - go bash skulls - only one route from beginning to end, one method to resolve...well everything... you literally cannot exploit the vast variety of powers on offer and the game offers no variety, style or atmosphere, no choice and no consequence...... it leaves you 'all dressed up with nowhere to go' =/ If I were to hazard a theory I think its too obviously a a coporate product, someone ordered a checklist of MMO staples to be implemented without any real thought of theme or conviction, it's designed to consume time rather than involve or entertain you, a functional but sterile experience....like Hellgate and Tabula imo same problem, nothing intrinsically wrong with the games but really nothing to engage you or make you care enough to keep going.

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There is definately good things to say about CO. Frist off, I didnt play Champions long, I played their CB for a little while and soon to begin their open beta phase(the initial impression is what matters). So...the first thing I thoroughly enjoyed was the level of customization that they offered. There are tons of costume peices and variations of costumes that you can mix and match. You can also randomize a costume to get ideas for how you want your character to look. You can also choose to customize your characters entire body from the head down to the feet or for the more casual players you can simply choose a "preset" option of the face shape, body shape, ect.

Now to talk about the gameplay, my first impression with my melee based character is that the auto attack was actually a repeated combo that regenerated my energy. This was definately different than what im use to but I quickly realized how fun and fast paced this made the combat. Also if you dont like the auto attack animations for whatever reason ( I usually turned off mine in sequence with certain moves to see all the other cool attack animations with my Single Blade) you can choose not to use it all the time becasue eventually most melee characters get an attack that generates momentum which in turn has an effect on certain other abilities, most of which the momentum effect caused my other attacks to not have an energy cost or to cause them to regenerate energy. Something else that I found very fun and interested was the different "type" of attacks that were available; by this I mean that some attacks you can charge them and release them for more damage some you simply click (there are other types I believe those are the main ones I've encountered). Enough of that.

Last but not least is the travel powers. I played around with some of these a bit ; they all are fun in their own way and nearly all of them operate differently. For instance, the normal flight is much different from the ice flight (I thought it would be the same but just on a platform) ; the ice flight is a lot harder to ascend with because of the weight of the Ice I'm assuming and the normal flight offers a much more free range of motion in about every direction. One more thing about travel powers that I noticed that was very interesting to me is that, you have the choice to charge your travel power up ( by clicking and holding the button) or you can simply click it and be on your way.....but if you simply click it you will initially run at a much slower speed and have to gain actual "momentum" to get up to your max speed. Well....those are some good things I thought about CO, I think it deserves this attention. Could have added more but I'm tired of typing >.>

Found lots of bugs but its still beta no complaints there but the damn game engine is a joke, laggy like hell, graphics look crap for a brand new game, tons of stability issues, even got crashes during the character creation, I really dont understand where was all the hype coming from.

The UI is poorly done, clunky movement for a fast paced combat style, pvp is a joke and not just because balance issues, which are game breaking btw but everyone will just stick to the same powers.

Melees are heavily underpowered also, and no option to skip the crappy tutorials.

5 out of 10 from me. but remember its just a beta opinion, things can improve, sadly the engine cant be changed.

No chance this game will get past 500k subs im affraid and with Aion around the corner... this game cant compete.

What can I say I havent had fun like this since Warhammer first came out.
 

Much better then I thought it would be expecially with the poor comments leave about the game.. Sure it could use some polishing up in some areas but overall its a very enjoyable game, and thats pretty much what im looking for in a GAME (HAVING FUN).

Originally posted by daemon

Found lots of bugs but its still beta no complaints there but the damn game engine is a joke, laggy like hell, graphics look crap for a brand new game, tons of stability issues, even got crashes during the character creation, I really dont understand where was all the hype coming from.

The UI is poorly done, clunky movement for a fast paced combat style, pvp is a joke and not just because balance issues, which are game breaking btw but everyone will just stick to the same powers.

Melees are heavily underpowered also, and no option to skip the crappy tutorials.

5 out of 10 from me. but remember its just a beta opinion, things can improve, sadly the engine cant be changed.

No chance this game will get past 500k subs im affraid and with Aion around the corner... this game cant compete.

I'm wondering if it's your rig because the people who seem to have these issues tend to have older models or ironically high end systems.  Cryptic is still optimizing the game.  That being said, this game is not like WoW.  You really do need a decent graphics card and processor.

I think the graphics are great and on a good system, the game is very smooth.  I think graphics are hit or miss with most folks. Can't help you with the combat.  Maybe it's not your style?

Cryptic would be absolutely ecstactic if CO hit 500K subs.  Right now they will be more than satisfiyed with around 150K-200K which is doable.  And since you mentioned Aion, I'm guessing you are a PvPer.  If that's the case, yeah, play Aion.  CO emphasizes PvE.

I like the game alot.. better then aion by far...... 

Sure i have some problems like its laggy ( but that is due to my pc.. Im running a 2.2 ghz cpu with 2 gigs of ram)  Tomarrow ill be ordering a 3.2ghz cpu and 6 gigs of ram..  So smooth sailing after that...

The combat is fast and fluid. i love the travel powers.. better then any stupid ass mount in any other game and 2x  better then coh/v travel powers.

If you Liked coh/v  (or like the concept atleast) then i think you will really like this one.

You have to be pretty stupid, or a troll, to think this game isn't good.  Sure its got bugs, every game has bugs with every update.   Just remember the Haters/Trolls usually have the biggest mouths.  Play it have fun and ignore (I mean put them on ignore) the Haters/trolls. 

Originally posted by mmodanno

The first clue about this would be when they offered LIFE time subscriptions to people, but only to those who hadn't actually played yet.  You get one chance at a life time subscription, and thats before you actually start the game.

What does that say?  It says:

"We know we have created a game that no one will play for more then 2 months, so we are trying to get as much money as we can up front."

That, my friend, is not what you want to hear from a game company.

Oh, and by the way, give this game a pass.  It truely is just a wreck.

Troll much?

To buy the lifetime or the 6months pack you first need the game key.

If you buy the game (so you can have a game key duh!) you get access to the beta this week.

You can play the game before you buy lifetime. Clear enough? Or do I need to draw it for you?

trolls this days... such a fail.... not even good a trolling the trolls are!

Originally posted by Bureyku

Honestly I really love the graphic style of this game.  I love the attempt at a single server even if it creates a ton of instances.  I like the pace of combat even if it is monotomous.

These are the things I like about the game.

Oh man, if its one thing in that game I cant stand it is the art style. I have been playing MMOs since M59 and I can honestly say that this is the first game ever to turn me off just with its art style. There are some cool things in the game, but I simply can not get over the art style. I have a 4 year old rig and I turned everything to max and it still ran smoothly, but it still just looked horrible in my opinion. But hey, everyone is different and I am not going to blame cryptic for that, because I know its my fault I dont like the style, But seriously, oh man, I am sooo glad I didnt buy that lifetime offer.