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Zlayer77
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Joined: 5/19/09
Start worrying about other players in a game and dont just play |
8/20/09 2:58:31 AM#41
Well hate to tell you I told you so. Was a great debate about what CCPs annuncment would be. I Told everyone it was going to be an FPS game. But did enyone listen nooo..... instead they kept on saying it was going to be World of darkness. Lol CCP has allready said they are going to try and make that game. Why do it again?? So now that I was right where is my price! |
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8/20/09 3:35:18 AM#42
CCP's CEO himself said that in an interview. It's not 'someone's assumptions'. |
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8/20/09 3:40:57 AM#43
Originally posted by Gdemami
www.massively.com/2009/08/18/ccp-games-reveals-new-eve-online-console-mmo-dust-514/ The CEO's statements are exaggerated? Curious... Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region." He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying." |
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8/20/09 4:37:01 AM#44
All Petrusson said is that in regards to planetary control of EVE Online, which will be talked more sometime next year and currently is not implemented nor it is designed yet, there will be some connection between developed console FPS Dust 514. Dust 514 will share sovereingty map and will be based on EVE Online IP. Nothing more is in his presentation. Exaggerated statements are of this kind:
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8/20/09 5:51:27 AM#45
Originally posted by Gdemami All Hilmar said was what was quoted. You are not providing any quotes. It is not an exaggerated statement to say that EVE players are losing control when the CEO has stated that they will be dependent on DUST players. There is no twisting around what he said. His statement was very clear in regards to sov. The forums take the approach of the EULA stating that gameplay may change at their whim. That is where a lot of the NGE comparisons start to come in. It is also why I left EVE a few months back, deleting everything I had and my characters after four years. They are free to do what they want, and I am free to leave. But please do not try to blow smoke here. While how it may play out in the future may change, as it stands now - that is what they have said. |
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8/20/09 6:05:15 AM#46
The quote speeks in general terms about concept of conecting two games with absolutely no specifics about game changes. It is a concept only, something that has got more than a year of development at best and something that has no shape nor there is anything planned for deeper mechanics yet. Whole part of planetary control is not even on draw board. There are numerous ways how Dust can affect EVE and the other way round and they are all unknown apart from fact that it will revolve around planetary combat, which is currently not even developed yet.
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8/20/09 6:19:59 AM#47
Originally posted by Gdemami
Hilmar said, "DUST battlefields will dictate who control specific planets inside the EVE MMO. If a player contracts a DUST mercenary team to go and conquer this district of a planet. Then ultimately he will be able to control the planet, and therefore the solar system, and therefore the constellation, and the region." He explained more about the interplay between EVE Online and DUST 514. Hilmar said, "You will increasingly have to fight with your fleet [in EVE Online] but you will also have to contract people who play DUST, the console MMO, which then feeds into the sovereignty control system of EVE. Then EVE feeds back into that again by funding the mercenaries, giving them goals." In a nod to Starship Troopers, he said, "The fleet does the flying, the infantry does the dying." DUST battlefields dictate who controls planets. To take the region, you will have to take the constellation. |
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8/20/09 6:33:24 AM#48
7 Different Dust threads all the same crap. Anyone tired of repeating themselves yet? Introducing the best signature ever! [signature] Best Signature [/signature] |
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8/20/09 6:43:27 AM#49
Originally posted by JDGalis
To be honest, I prefer the discussion on how DUST will affect EVE to all the "What, no PC?" discussions. I quit EVE because of the salvaging mini-profession they added. Sure, if you read their early comments on the issue; it sounded like a good idea. It would have provided an opportunity for corps and friends (even mercs) to participate in the completion of a mission while fostering a better community/RP experience for some. That is not the way it turned out though. It turned into ninja looters crying about mission runners being greedy because they thought the system not well thought out in the way it was implemented. Then when they made probing so easy a caveman could do it, it simply became ridiculous. I do not know if it has changed since then (this was a few months back), but in regards to a wreck: 1) They could not fire on it. They would be flagged and concordokened. The wreck obviously was flagged with ownership on the server, belonging to the person that had created the wreck. Yet CCP GMs continued to state their was no ownership even as their own game stated there was. They juryrigged a means for people to get around this ownership. They would not address the ability to attack or tractor the wreck at the time. If they had simply allowed anybody to fire at or tractor the wreck, then their claims of no ownership would have been fine in that sense. This was a simple thing in regards to looting and salvaging. For something as complex as the change in sovereignty we have going here, yeah - I would rather people were discussing that than worrying about whether it will be available for PC as well as for console.... just my 2 isk. |
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8/20/09 6:54:08 AM#50
(Un)fortunately there is nothing to discuss until planetary control is revealed. You can't really guess anything without one. |
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8/20/09 9:39:40 AM#51
Originally posted by Gdemami
I disagree on this point. If you wait until they have finished and then discuss - what purpose does that serve? This is not discussion about a brand new game, but this is about a game that has been around for six years. |
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8/20/09 3:47:28 PM#52
I don't recall Dust 514 being around for six year. I even think it was not released yet nor there was a preview or such but I might be wrong, I am not reading massively.com and alike.... |
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8/21/09 5:04:29 AM#53
Originally posted by Gdemami DUST will be affecting EVE, no? Is EVE a new game? Does that help you any? |
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8/21/09 6:14:16 AM#54
In order to affect something, you need 2 subjects. Since you have only 1... Did that help you? |
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8/21/09 7:33:11 AM#55
Originally posted by Gdemami Unfortunately it does not assist me in your constant trolling on this subject over various threads, when you have even been the OP of a thread stating what everybody has been saying - while ignoring what you yourself have posted. I stated that DUST will affect EVE. I did not state that DUST was six years old. I pointed that out for you, kindly. It is also fail to suggest that something cannot affect itself, thus only relying upon a single subject. When people are looking for additional information and additional clarification on information already provided, why do you wish everybody to shut up - sit back - and wait for that information to come out after the fact instead of being an active participant in the community? |
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