Yep Im totally bored and found the game very unineteresting but this is what happens when CB is just at starting/low lvl...they should have given us a bash at mid to end lvl then we would really get the feel of it and experienced more than the 'press1' 'press 2' press 1 again'.....any game is boring at early lvls....I wanted to see what the real combat/combot/fly was all about

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by chaod1984

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by chaod1984

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by nblitz

What do you wish to get out of this?

just sharing my opinion and i want to see if anyone else feels the same 

free to play? really? Please. Now I know you are trolling. If anything it has more of a WoW feel (thought obviously it's not WoW).

But as I've stated before, I'll bite. You show me free to play game that it is close to and I'll download it and see for myself. Because I've tried free to play games which all feel a bit junky and this does not feel like a free to play. Heck, even Archlord, which started as pay to play (now free to play) doesn't feel as polished and feature filled as this. Perfect World feels Junky next to this as does Shaiya.

If you don't like the game great, but I think you need reassess. Again, I would have more readily bought the wow reference. Also, as you might know, the game opens up after 20. I understand that that is not ideal, but that is where the pvp portion of the game starts.

And as far as its art design being too asian, it is an asian game. The gameplay feels more western with all the quests. mundane as many of them are. But it is made by an asian developer.

 

IMHO, Runes of Magic is about on par with Aion, cept for the graphics....Id even go as far as to say the combat and class options are far better than that of Aions...Runes is FTP

 

Then I will download runes of magic and see for myself. Is there any other f2p game that plays like aion? Because there is a difference in saying the game plays like a f2p and the game plays like runes of magic which happens to be f2p. f2p conjures up the whole asian grinder thing.

as far as this statement made above:

1. I find it hard to believe that with the wave of a magic level 20 wand that the game world instantly opens up to a huge and expansive world where anything is possible

no one is saing tghat the game opens up to a huge and expansive world where anything is possible. That is NOT this game. This is not vanguard. This is not a sandbox game.

The gameplay changes as the pvp portion of the game kicks in. As Aion leans toward a pvp game that is what happens. I realize it's not what some people want or like but that's it.

As far as the end game, you do realize that the game is out and has been for almost a year? People are already experiencing the end game.

 

I wouldnt say it follows in the footsteps of an asian grinder, but the experience is similar.   Not the functionality.  There arent hordes of enemy A standing next to enemy B standing next to enemy C which is your leveling pattern.  Instead everything is more spaced out, but still very much so lined up like domino's.  When I say it is an Asian grinder, I am talking about the graphics decisions and the fact that the quests are so similar in what you must do to complete them, that it actually still feels like you are grinding.

I would definately check out Runes of Magic, I still play it when Im bored and the fact that you get a secondary class at level 10 helps with the linear questing and level progression.  There is also an instanced boss at level 10 and an instanced dungeon at level 14( I believe)...not a bad game, but everything it does has been done before and most times, it was done better.

 

Well the Art design is asian so some like that and some don't. As far as what you do for the quests, they are no different than wow's or lotro's or eq II's. Heck, I've spent a good amount of time doing lotro and most of the quests in mom are "go kill x amount of y".

this seems to be standard average mmo questing.

yeah, I dont play LOTRO cuz I just didnt think it was a good game.  The first couple areas and instanced quests are amazing in LOTRO, but after that it's a pure uninspired quest grind.  EQ2 I can definately agree with.  WoW had enoughInot handfuls) of unique questing experiences to keep you going. 
 

I forgot to mention with Aion, that combat plays a big part in my opinion on the fact that it feels like you are grinding.  IMO, and I've been cast aside for saying this, the combat is slow and dull.  Also, the enemies take FOREVER to die....too many hp's and the developers meant this to be, which means they dont plan to change that.  As an exceptionally powerful toon(that's what you are in any MMO world) I dont like the fact that regular trash mobs can compete with me when I'm trying to kill them.  It just doesn't make sense.  Also, as much as the combo system is touted, it's boring to me.  You are still using a set rotation with spells that have been handed to you.

Again, Im moving to Champions Online because I'm sick and tired of typical MMORPGs that follow the industry standard for combat, setting and character creation, but I'm also moving there because it seems that no MMORPG coming out any time soon has found a way to enhance the typical MMORPG standard being used...they just keep on copying it and throwing props in your face so that you might bite on their unimaginative and uncreative world.  Hell, these developers seem to use more creativity to sell the game to you than they do actually making the game....kinda sad.  GO CRYPTIC!!!

Originally posted by chaod1984

Originally posted by Sovrath

Originally posted by chaod1984

 

I wouldnt say it follows in the footsteps of an asian grinder, but the experience is similar.   Not the functionality.  There arent hordes of enemy A standing next to enemy B standing next to enemy C which is your leveling pattern.  Instead everything is more spaced out, but still very much so lined up like domino's.  When I say it is an Asian grinder, I am talking about the graphics decisions and the fact that the quests are so similar in what you must do to complete them, that it actually still feels like you are grinding.

I would definately check out Runes of Magic, I still play it when Im bored and the fact that you get a secondary class at level 10 helps with the linear questing and level progression.  There is also an instanced boss at level 10 and an instanced dungeon at level 14( I believe)...not a bad game, but everything it does has been done before and most times, it was done better.

 

Well the Art design is asian so some like that and some don't. As far as what you do for the quests, they are no different than wow's or lotro's or eq II's. Heck, I've spent a good amount of time doing lotro and most of the quests in mom are "go kill x amount of y".

this seems to be standard average mmo questing.

yeah, I dont play LOTRO cuz I just didnt think it was a good game.  The first couple areas and instanced quests are amazing in LOTRO, but after that it's a pure uninspired quest grind.  EQ2 I can definately agree with.  WoW had enoughInot handfuls) of unique questing experiences to keep you going. 
 

I forgot to mention with Aion, that combat plays a big part in my opinion on the fact that it feels like you are grinding.  IMO, and I've been cast aside for saying this, the combat is slow and dull.  Also, the enemies take FOREVER to die....too many hp's and the developers meant this to be, which means they dont plan to change that.  As an exceptionally powerful toon(that's what you are in any MMO world) I dont like the fact that regular trash mobs can compete with me when I'm trying to kill them.  It just doesn't make sense.  Also, as much as the combo system is touted, it's boring to me.  You are still using a set rotation with spells that have been handed to you.

Again, Im moving to Champions Online because I'm sick and tired of typical MMORPGs that follow the industry standard for combat, setting and character creation, but I'm also moving there because it seems that no MMORPG coming out any time soon has found a way to enhance the typical MMORPG standard being used...they just keep on copying it and throwing props in your face so that you might bite on their unimaginative and uncreative world.  Hell, these developers seem to use more creativity to sell the game to you than they do actually making the game....kinda sad.  GO CRYPTIC!!!

I think that's a more fair assessment and goes into more depth than the op.

You are right, the mobs do take longer to die. It's an odd decision but I can see where that would be a downer for some.

NC said, quite a while back, that Aion was going to be a standard mmo, with some differences here and there. And they are right, it is. For some, this is just not going to do and that's very fair. For others, they are more into the pvp portion and it will work out quite well.

I personally don't mind the pve portion, I find it relaxing and the world is pretty. The pvp portion is more my main interest.

But I tend to bristle when players make statements that are quite far from the truth. Such as "the game was going to be f2p now it's not", or it's like an Asian grinder (I played Lineage 2 and I know what an asian grinder is. This is not an asian grinder - and with the extra quests for 1.5 I think NC is doing itself justice for launch).

If players don't like asian looking games they should stay away. That much is simple. If players don't want to deal with pvp on one level or another (as you can avoid it you just have to be proactive in doing so) then they should stay away. If players are looking for an open world then Aion will not give it to you.

but in some ways I do see this as being a marriage between L2 and wow. It's not L2 or WoW by any stretch but the influences are there. If people hated either game then the decision is clear. Aion is not for you.

"Also, the enemies take FOREVER to die....too many hp's and the developers meant this to be, which means they dont plan to change that. As an exceptionally powerful toon(that's what you are in any MMO world) I dont like the fact that regular trash mobs can compete with me when I'm trying to kill them. It just doesn't make sense."

Are you serious?  You want to 2 shot everything? lol  You should watch some You Tube of CO, things dont seem to die quickly there either. Maybe you should become a Death Knight, i 2 shotted all of Outlands mobs on mine :)

Originally posted by Beachcomber

"Also, the enemies take FOREVER to die....too many hp's and the developers meant this to be, which means they dont plan to change that. As an exceptionally powerful toon(that's what you are in any MMO world) I dont like the fact that regular trash mobs can compete with me when I'm trying to kill them. It just doesn't make sense."

Are you serious?  You want to 2 shot everything? lol  You should watch some You Tube of CO, things dont seem to die quickly there either. Maybe you should become a Death Knight, i 2 shotted all of Outlands mobs on mine :)

 

 

 

 

I'm not asking to 2 shot anything, I'm simply asking to not have to go through an already VERY slow rotation of combat skills 3-4 times in one fight unless Im being assaulted by 3-4 mobs or I am encountering an elite(than I expect to die if I dont have help).  I have been in Champions Beta for about a month now...trust me, the combat is much more intuitive, fast and fun than Aion's.  Ask me when the NDA is lifted and I'll let you in on the details.

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

Originally posted by Sovrath

I think that's a more fair assessment and goes into more depth than the op.

You are right, the mobs do take longer to die. It's an odd decision but I can see where that would be a downer for some.

NC said, quite a while back, that Aion was going to be a standard mmo, with some differences here and there. And they are right, it is. For some, this is just not going to do and that's very fair. For others, they are more into the pvp portion and it will work out quite well.

I personally don't mind the pve portion, I find it relaxing and the world is pretty. The pvp portion is more my main interest.

But I tend to bristle when players make statements that are quite far from the truth. Such as "the game was going to be f2p now it's not", or it's like an Asian grinder (I played Lineage 2 and I know what an asian grinder is. This is not an asian grinder - and with the extra quests for 1.5 I think NC is doing itself justice for launch).

If players don't like asian looking games they should stay away. That much is simple. If players don't want to deal with pvp on one level or another (as you can avoid it you just have to be proactive in doing so) then they should stay away. If players are looking for an open world then Aion will not give it to you.

but in some ways I do see this as being a marriage between L2 and wow. It's not L2 or WoW by any stretch but the influences are there. If people hated either game then the decision is clear. Aion is not for you.

I think you nailed it with that explanation.  I am also tired of all the rumors and false statements made about any game...it's just stupid.  I think ALOT of people are gonna enjoy Aion....as for me, I think I've just played too many MMORPG's that follow the same gameplay stype that I can't do it again.  I'll leave these boards alone now...shouldn't have even been on them in the first place, but wanted to reply to the OP.  Everyone ordering Aion, have fun!  For me, imma rock out on Champions.  Be sure to leave updates on Aion once it releases so that everyone gets a good picture of the things we didn't get to experience.

Originally posted by chaod1984

Originally posted by Beachcomber

"Also, the enemies take FOREVER to die....too many hp's and the developers meant this to be, which means they dont plan to change that. As an exceptionally powerful toon(that's what you are in any MMO world) I dont like the fact that regular trash mobs can compete with me when I'm trying to kill them. It just doesn't make sense."

Are you serious?  You want to 2 shot everything? lol  You should watch some You Tube of CO, things dont seem to die quickly there either. Maybe you should become a Death Knight, i 2 shotted all of Outlands mobs on mine :)

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not asking to 2 shot anything, I'm simply asking to not have to go through an already VERY slow rotation of combat skills 3-4 times in one fight unless Im being assaulted by 3-4 mobs or I am encountering an elite(than I expect to die if I dont have help).  I have been in Champions Beta for about a month now...trust me, the combat is much more intuitive, fast and fun than Aion's.  Ask me when the NDA is lifted and I'll let you in on the details.

this was my experience with a gladiator

hit 1 to start main attack, hit 2 to start combo, hit 3 to finish combo, watch main attack and repeat for a min or so

zzz boring i'd rather be fighting 3-5 mobs at a time like in CO and have to rely on your skills just to survive

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

At least i'm not the only one who's wondering what's all that hype about this game.  It's a WOW clone with wings.

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

thanks for bringing nothing to the conversation troll

Originally posted by Aguitha

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

At least i'm not the only one who's wondering what's all that hype about this game.  It's a WOW clone with wings.

it's say it has more in common with rappelz and silkroad than WoW

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

Which doesn't address his point. The game may not be what he's looking for. That's fine, trying to please everyone is a sure recipe for pleasing no one. Yes the first few levels of a game should be fun for you. That doesn't guarantee you will like the rest of the game but many companies don't pay enough attention to starting people off well. The real question is are the first few levels pleasing to the target audience. If so it's not a problem with the game it's just a bad fit for the particular player.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

 

Which doesn't address his point. The game may not be what he's looking for. That's fine, trying to please everyone is a sure recipe for pleasing no one. Yes the first few levels of a game should be fun for you. That doesn't guarantee you will like the rest of the game but many companies don't pay enough attention to starting people off well. The real question is are the first few levels pleasing to the target audience. If so it's not a problem with the game it's just a bad fit for the particular player.

All things being equal i would agree. But he isnt here for discussion. Ive been watching the Aion boards for a bit today and see what he is about so while you have a valid point, it doesnt apply in this particular case.

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

thanks for bringing nothing to the conversation troll

I missed the part where you brought anything other than bait to the conversation

Originally posted by toddze

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by grandpagamer

Originally posted by rr2real

Originally posted by SpyridonZ

Originally posted by rr2real

 I got in the beta today played 1-11 and I must say wow was this game over hyped.

The graphics are too asian and look like they came from a free to play mmo rpg.

The combat is so boring and tedius I don't care to play any more

The music is nice.

The world is even more linear than AoC and I thought that wasn't possible.

The game just plays like most free to play mmos out there.

 

As with all MMO's, it is foolish to judge them by the first 10 levels.

Look at what happened when all the review sites did that with AoC.

if it's not fun to level up why would i waste a good numbers of hours of my life to get to max level?

You wont but you will waste hours of your life trolling these boards.

thanks for bringing nothing to the conversation troll

 

I missed the part where you brought anything other than bait to the conversation

so talking about my opinions of the game is considered trolling? lol

Originally posted by rr2real

so talking about my opinions of the game is considered trolling? lol

Dont you know "trolling" and "fanboy" has been reduced to anything positive or negative about a game? It didnt use to be like that but it is now so what can you do?

Edit: And negative opinions will always elicit a fan to respond. you know that, thus its bait.

Playing in the first few betas it also kind of felt free to playish to me, especially with the player shops.

Originally posted by Margulis

Playing in the first few betas it also kind of felt free to playish to me, especially with the player shops.

Tons of shops indeed with even more players and no LAG. ya feels very fp2 to me