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  Kordesh

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Joined: 1/12/06
Posts: 1731

8/15/09 9:28:29 PM#61

 More race/class combinations? Why even bother with the restrictions in the first place then?

This expansion just goes to prove that not even a slash and burn world reset can make this game good.

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  Swanea

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Joined: 4/25/08
Posts: 2113

8/15/09 9:29:29 PM#62

Ah good, repackaging the old world.  And added classes to some races.

  LizardEgypt

Hard Core Member

Joined: 2/25/09
Posts: 225

Hmm ?

8/15/09 9:33:37 PM#63

No class/race restrictions? God I hope that isn't true or Blizzard has really just sold out completely. 

The idea for new content on the old world is somewhat cool, but the way this post described it makes it sound like it's just going to ruin the old content and noob up the new stuff even more then they already did.

I played WoW from the first week it came out and loved every minute of it until the first expansion pack came out.. it's only gone downhill from there and unless Blizzard changes their game direction at all for this 'new expansion' then I can't see it ever improving again in my eyes.. but of course everyone else will keep paying them .. lol

The MMO industry right now really sucks..

Currently playing - Heroes of Newerth, Perpetuum
Previous games - SWG, World of Warcraft, ShadowBane, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Planetside Asheron's Call, Everquest, Everquest 2, Rift. Too many.

  bonobotheory

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Joined: 4/30/06
Posts: 1019

Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.

8/15/09 9:33:44 PM#64
Originally posted by xevanon
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by EricDanie

 Phasing is a damn great thing with a lot of revolution potential, someday every quest may be able to change something... in your world.

Incredible. So you're saying that one day, maybe in only a few short years, MMOs might be able to do what single-player RPGs have been able to do for the past thirty years?

 

Bono,

Phasing is  "having access to the content, the storyline and the lore " in your time played period, meaning, if you have been log out when the hammer carrier hit the dong for AQ20/40 event, well you missed the event.... so sad!

But with the phasing you can be part of it and see the content live without missing anything! Its a great new/old addition that can open tones of content/oppurtunitty  for solo and group!

So nothing anyone does in their game affects my game, and nothing I do in my game affects anyone else's game. Just like every single-player game ever made, except I get to pay fifteen bucks a month for it. That sounds awesome!  Where do I sign up?

 

  arthen999

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Joined: 10/20/08
Posts: 187

8/15/09 9:54:50 PM#65

in my book blizzard sold out when they brought in faction switching . i dont know how accurate these  predictions are but i ve heard it all before . i know lots of people still love wow  but for me its a mess . its a bit like going back to a place where you had a good time in the past but end up finding its changed beyond all recognition . if i were to pin point when the game started to go down hill i would say it was when they speeded up the leveling . anyway i m not too bothered am having fun in lotro on a half price life time sub and ddo is free soon and of  course theres aion .

  arctarus

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Posts: 2418

8/15/09 10:00:24 PM#66
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by xevanon
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by EricDanie

 Phasing is a damn great thing with a lot of revolution potential, someday every quest may be able to change something... in your world.

Incredible. So you're saying that one day, maybe in only a few short years, MMOs might be able to do what single-player RPGs have been able to do for the past thirty years?

 

Bono,

Phasing is  "having access to the content, the storyline and the lore " in your time played period, meaning, if you have been log out when the hammer carrier hit the dong for AQ20/40 event, well you missed the event.... so sad!

But with the phasing you can be part of it and see the content live without missing anything! Its a great new/old addition that can open tones of content/oppurtunitty  for solo and group!

So nothing anyone does in their game affects my game, and nothing I do in my game affects anyone else's game. Just like every single-player game ever made, except I get to pay fifteen bucks a month for it. That sounds awesome!  Where do I sign up?

 


 

Every MMO out there, choose...

Without phasing, players will also QQ that they hvnt seen the contents and is already being change...

 

RIP Orc Choppa

  User Deleted
8/15/09 10:03:58 PM#67

If the revamp is true I can see alot of people reactivating their accounts just for the new expansion as well as new players wanting to play.

  Rudeasp

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Joined: 7/09/09
Posts: 50

If I can have fun for a fee that's fine but don't give my rewards away for free.

8/16/09 12:11:30 AM#68

How many times should I reroll to begin to enjoy the game again. I feel like WoW has defined "end game" and used "grind" in a way that gave us something to do with our extra time. Then they took away mmo with phasing by making it so you are/not in the same place as the other players. Last I saw they were changing pvp by making it a death penalty to even begin an attack on another player.

This upcoming patch sounds like they learned from Return to Duskwallow Marsh which was cool for a few levels when I rerolled once again. The excitement was short lived, and it is a huge disappointment playing the same game over again just to get back to the rep/equipment grind, and the end game boredom. Adding content to the existing game has always been a win, but what Bliz has done, and is continuing to do is change the content that players have spent time on, making their game time moot.


Its a bit of QQ yes, and my opinion on the changes. Personally I feel burned enough to not go back to even see what its like, because expansions, or patches its still Blizzards World of Warcraft. I left because I wanted a different game all together not just a different character every time I logged on.

imo if anything should be changed it should be the cost of the game since its not 30 days of game time with its 5-12 hours of maintenance once a week, and random server/instance crashes that last 4-6 hours. 2-4 hour que times to enter the server where I had already established a community. Servers where there is no balance between the faction populations. Not to mention Graphix that look like a coloring book, over unappealing new items and areas. I don't know how I can flip old console games over and over, and have it never get old.

Playing WoW for me had become an unrewarding pain in the butt to play, but I kept playing for a very long time because I personally had to always one up the other players which is very easy to do solo, or in a top rated guild. Ohhh the nub enjoyment of a level 80 hunter who shot me for 1% damage, or a rogue went to town with his super macro of death then give up because he realized he had only taken me down to 75%, and the pally who decides to bubble hearth before almost dieing after picking a fight believing just because he's a pally he's OP, and the best of all defeating random groups who decided I was an easy target while I had 5 or more Booty Bay bruisers on me. Ok ok I may resub again if they up the level cap to 100 since I'm sure my Tier set will last until I get there lawl.

 

"Knowing the game, Knowing your character and having character makes you a good player. -Rudeasp
Owned: Everquest, WoW, Aion collectors edition, LOTRO, and currently playing Champions Online. Waiting for SWTOR, Fallout Online. May join DCUO next.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5381

8/16/09 1:29:35 AM#69
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by xevanon
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by EricDanie

 Phasing is a damn great thing with a lot of revolution potential, someday every quest may be able to change something... in your world.

Incredible. So you're saying that one day, maybe in only a few short years, MMOs might be able to do what single-player RPGs have been able to do for the past thirty years?

 

Bono,

Phasing is  "having access to the content, the storyline and the lore " in your time played period, meaning, if you have been log out when the hammer carrier hit the dong for AQ20/40 event, well you missed the event.... so sad!

But with the phasing you can be part of it and see the content live without missing anything! Its a great new/old addition that can open tones of content/oppurtunitty  for solo and group!

So nothing anyone does in their game affects my game, and nothing I do in my game affects anyone else's game. Just like every single-player game ever made, except I get to pay fifteen bucks a month for it. That sounds awesome!  Where do I sign up?

 

 

11M people, give or take 1-2M, already have. Sign up at Blizzard's website. And it is awesome. Who cares about your world? I want cool stuff in mine.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5381

8/16/09 1:32:00 AM#70
Originally posted by LizardEgypt

No class/race restrictions? God I hope that isn't true or Blizzard has really just sold out completely. 

The idea for new content on the old world is somewhat cool, but the way this post described it makes it sound like it's just going to ruin the old content and noob up the new stuff even more then they already did.

I played WoW from the first week it came out and loved every minute of it until the first expansion pack came out.. it's only gone downhill from there and unless Blizzard changes their game direction at all for this 'new expansion' then I can't see it ever improving again in my eyes.. but of course everyone else will keep paying them .. lol

The MMO industry right now really sucks..

 

Downhill for you. Uphill for me and millions of other players. MMO industry sucks for you .. great for me .. hmm ...

I don't see a problem. There are other games to play if you don't like WOW. It is not like it is anything important. MMOs are just games.

  bonobotheory

Apprentice Member

Joined: 4/30/06
Posts: 1019

Tis an ill wind that blows no minds.

8/16/09 1:41:32 AM#71
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bonobotheory

So nothing anyone does in their game affects my game, and nothing I do in my game affects anyone else's game. Just like every single-player game ever made, except I get to pay fifteen bucks a month for it. That sounds awesome!  Where do I sign up?

 

11M people, give or take 1-2M, already have. Sign up at Blizzard's website. And it is awesome. Who cares about your world? I want cool stuff in mine.

Or I could just play a single-player RPG. If I'm going to play in an isolated bubble where other players' actions don't affect me, why should I pay a monthly fee?

  Ilvaldyr

Novice Member

Joined: 8/31/08
Posts: 2163

8/16/09 1:55:06 AM#72
Originally posted by LizardEgypt

No class/race restrictions? God I hope that isn't true or Blizzard has really just sold out completely.

There are still restrictions; but there are just less of 'em.

Most of the new combinations make sense; I never really understood why there were so many nonsensicaly restrictions in the first place:

Human Hunters .. why not?
Undead Hunters .. again, why not?
Blood Elf Warriors .. they can be Paladins but not Warriors?
Night Elf Mages .. the lore is full of Nelfs using Sorcery.
Dwarf Mages .. were in Beta but cut before release.
Dwarf Shamans .. there's already a shamanistic clan of dwarves in the game .. Wildhammers.
Troll Druids .. the troll-based instances are full of shapeshifting trolls.
Orc Mage .. well, they can be warlocks .. why not mages?
Gnome Priests .. they're inherently magical little guys, it's a bit of a stretch but not a huge one.

The only class combinations that I do consider a bit "wtf?" are Tauren Paladins/Priests .. I would have thought that if Blizzard wanted to add Paladin to a second horde-race, they'd have gone with the Undead as being the most logical choice; fallen humans who have regained their "faith" in the light.


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  Mystik86

Novice Member

Joined: 4/20/06
Posts: 374

Using his imagination since 1986.

8/16/09 1:59:27 AM#73

I hate to say it but I may be jumping back into WoW when this all goes down. Let's see if they deliver first though...

For the Templars...

  natuxatu

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Joined: 11/12/03
Posts: 1332

Bookah

8/16/09 2:16:12 AM#74

If I was still playing WoW I'd be excited, but I'm not, so I'm not excited. There are too many great potential MMOs coming out... not enough here to make me come back to this one.

  User Deleted
8/16/09 4:06:36 AM#75
Originally posted by EricDanie

 Phasing is a damn great thing with a lot of revolution potential, someday every quest may be able to change something... in your world.

And about this information on WoW:Cataclysm, I can just say one thing - Wow.

 

Yes phasing is such an incredible technology:

 

If (already did quest)

    show new content

else

    show default

end

  SonofSeth

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Joined: 12/17/05
Posts: 1866

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8/16/09 2:16:45 PM#76
Originally posted by altairzq
Originally posted by EricDanie

 Phasing is a damn great thing with a lot of revolution potential, someday every quest may be able to change something... in your world.

And about this information on WoW:Cataclysm, I can just say one thing - Wow.

 

Yes phasing is such an incredible technology:

 

If (already did quest)

    show new content

else

    show default

end

That's the basics of it, but what you can do with it is the amazing thing.  Some very fun and interesting quests in WotLK that would not be possible without phasing.

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5381

8/16/09 7:57:12 PM#77
Originally posted by bonobotheory
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by bonobotheory

So nothing anyone does in their game affects my game, and nothing I do in my game affects anyone else's game. Just like every single-player game ever made, except I get to pay fifteen bucks a month for it. That sounds awesome!  Where do I sign up?

 

11M people, give or take 1-2M, already have. Sign up at Blizzard's website. And it is awesome. Who cares about your world? I want cool stuff in mine.

Or I could just play a single-player RPG. If I'm going to play in an isolated bubble where other players' actions don't affect me, why should I pay a monthly fee?

MMOs are already like this. You are asking those 11M paying customers why.

Oh, may be because you can GROUP WITH THEM and kill stuff in dungeons. May be because YOU CAN BUY/SELL STUFF WITH REAL PLAYERS. May be because you can PVP.

 

 

  Darule

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Joined: 9/28/06
Posts: 39

8/20/09 1:39:02 AM#78

WOW graphic is still good, but is on the verge of becoming outdated comparing to a few new games out there. A revamp will be very cool, and also will attract many "retired" players to play alts again. Bravo to Bliz if this is true.

  Ekadd

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Joined: 7/09/09
Posts: 137

8/20/09 2:01:58 AM#79
Originally posted by Thenarius

Well, I think our #1 kid deserves a thread.
While this is pure speculation guys, keep in mind this thing:Boubouille was never wrong, since I've started reading on his site, 2 years ago, so you should trust him.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php
TL;DR version: All of WoW's content(areas, instances, everything) gets a large revamp, basically it changes WoW's landscape to something far more different than it is.
What do you guys think?

To be honest its really hard to change main things in game like npc/player models, large areas etc.This takes huge time to get it done and test it.Prolly they going to add some high resolution textures, shaders etc.

We will see..

  nariusseldon

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Joined: 12/21/07
Posts: 5381

8/20/09 3:19:58 PM#80
Originally posted by Ekadd
Originally posted by Thenarius

Well, I think our #1 kid deserves a thread.
While this is pure speculation guys, keep in mind this thing:Boubouille was never wrong, since I've started reading on his site, 2 years ago, so you should trust him.
http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php
TL;DR version: All of WoW's content(areas, instances, everything) gets a large revamp, basically it changes WoW's landscape to something far more different than it is.
What do you guys think?

To be honest its really hard to change main things in game like npc/player models, large areas etc.This takes huge time to get it done and test it.Prolly they going to add some high resolution textures, shaders etc.

We will see..

 

OTOH, blizzard is making >$1B with WOW each year and i am sure they can afford the best development resources under the sun.

The good news is that wow graphics reply a lot more on art direction and less on raw power. It is kind of amazing that i still enjoy looking at the wow world when i am also playing games like prototype, L4D, Wolverine Origins. Blizzard really have top-notch artists.

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