AoC is still a very competitive game for a casual player, it lacks serious Hardcore lastability right now but in time if they expand it right who knows

I would like to know from the AoC haters what is this amazing game they all play that is like paradaise of MMOs because I would love to come play to.

I played a great many MMOs over the years..they all fail eventually because everyone gets bored at some stage of the same thing every day. AoC is a fun game it just lacks depth of a 20 expansion EQ or WoW at present. But it definatly has the potential to get there. Its a game I resub to and would continue to come back and see just needs to get to the expansion stage add a new race and so on..

Conan also has a film coming out next year that may help rehype the game if its in a good state by then.

Originally posted by crunchyblack

congrats on a great petty points "i didnt bother to figure it out myself" gripe list..

lucky the game itself is fun and the pvp is intense.

a really fun game if you dont mind getting ganked in hot spots.  pvp server is the way to go, the pve servers you level too damn fast and its missing that element of fear question alone.  great pvp combat as well.

Thank you for responding. Yet it seems you missed some points entirely: I re-subbed to AoC despite my few "petty points".

IMO the PvP in AoC is not interesting at all. Great that others enjoy it but to me it is not the kind of PvP I am looking for. Because of that I deliberately chose to play on a PvE server.

You actually managed to point out everything that I was wrong about, calling me lazy and unintelligent in the process, yet not providing one single solid answer. I guess that may be considered an accomplishment by some.

Originally posted by PharaDar

AoC is still a very competitive game for a casual player, it lacks serious Hardcore lastability right now but in time if they expand it right who knows

I would like to know from the AoC haters what is this amazing game they all play that is like paradaise of MMOs because I would love to come play to.

I played a great many MMOs over the years..they all fail eventually because everyone gets bored at some stage of the same thing every day. AoC is a fun game it just lacks depth of a 20 expansion EQ or WoW at present. But it definatly has the potential to get there. Its a game I resub to and would continue to come back and see just needs to get to the expansion stage add a new race and so on..

Conan also has a film coming out next year that may help rehype the game if its in a good state by then.

This game has suffered from "hype" from the very beginning. The last thing it needs is more "hype".

What the game needs is a decent community, better programmers and a company to run it that won't lie and overhype the game into oblivion.

Oh, did I mention community? That is the worst feature of the game.

 I recently started playing and was having a grand time, the game, for me anyway, was a blast to play. After 2 days though I have spent the past week trying to get the game to work again...when it does start  working though I will be right back in it and enjoying the time. 

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by crunchyblack

congrats on a great petty points "i didnt bother to figure it out myself" gripe list..

lucky the game itself is fun and the pvp is intense.

a really fun game if you dont mind getting ganked in hot spots.  pvp server is the way to go, the pve servers you level too damn fast and its missing that element of fear question alone.  great pvp combat as well.

 

Thank you for responding. Yet it seems you missed some points entirely: I re-subbed to AoC despite my few "petty points".

IMO the PvP in AoC is not interesting at all. Great that others enjoy it but to me it is not the kind of PvP I am looking for. Because of that I deliberately chose to play on a PvE server.

You actually managed to point out everything that I was wrong about, calling me lazy and unintelligent in the process, yet not providing one single solid answer. I guess that may be considered an accomplishment by some.

 

Well things are diffrent on the pve servers.  Its a much diffrent game without open world ffa pvp.  The picky gripes i was commenting on was more aimed towards people who do that with any game, you guys take the game so seriously, if you play the game to just have fun then a lot of little things go unnoticed.  Also with a lot of gripes about aoc, such as the mini maps and customizable ui are things that make the game unique.  Its like (not saying your doing this) complaining that you want a game that isnt like wow, but then bitching about how the games features are not like wow in every way.

wasnt trying to say you were that guy, its more a general comment.

Who cares? G4 is playing Conan the Barbarian and Conan the Destroyer right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Halandir

Ok lets give this char a rest and  change to my other char... Ahh I have to quit the game entirely and restart to change char?

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What about waiting for that 15 seconds logout sequence to end?
Amazes me how many people have not figured this. Even the columnist on this site.
Do not be afraid to ask. Guild members are usually valuable source of info usually.

For the best Conan experience, the choice of the server is extremely important.
Gameplay and community can be different like night and day on (RP) PVP and PVE servers.
Also the size of community does wonders. Less populated servers are by no means less valuable.

Originally posted by Davit

 

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Originally posted by Halandir

 

Ok lets give this char a rest and  change to my other char... Ahh I have to quit the game entirely and restart to change char?

 

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What about waiting for tha5 seconds logout sequence to end?
Amazes me how many people have not figured this. Even the columnist on this site.
Do not be afraid to ask. Guild members are usually valuat 1ble source of info usually.

For the best Conan experience, the choice of the server is extremely important.
Gameplay and community can be different like night and day on (RP) PVP and PVE servers.
Also the size of community does wonders. Less populated servers are by no means less valuable.

Ahh nice with the 15sec logout screen. But my point is: Why the **** do we have to figure something like this out? Where is this documented in the online manual? What is the point of a 15sec logout timer in the first place?

About server choice: Agree 100%. I am happy that I chanced rolling on Blackscar. (PvE server considered dead by most.)

@crunchyblack: Sorry if I sounded offended. I am not. I understand what you are saying but please... In my opinion, there are quite a few AoC fans that have turned completely paranoid and just NEED to be able to pin that "hate" badge on anyone not seeing things their way. Sadly they (imo) end up scaring more prospective players away than they lure in.
Oh and about the UI: I am extremely unimpressed by WoW's builtin UI. But the AoC could (and should) have looked at and stolen ideas from EQ, GW and more. There are a lot of older games out there with FAR superior UI's and chatinterfaces.

While drastic changes might be impossible at this time (hardcore fans are used to AoC's look and feel) their current general UI and specifically their chat interface will NOT impress any newcomers.

Timer is there so the people can't jump out off combat (whether PVP or PVE) without consequences. I think everybody understands the reasons. If you choose to skip this sequence, your character would still end up hanging in the world for some time.

MMO's are usually pretty complex and ever-changing. I am not sure it would be possible to maintain complete up-to-date documentation about all the features, and that you would really read it. RTFM is just a myth ;)

Originally posted by Halandir

Originally posted by Davit

 

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Originally posted by Halandir 

 

Ok lets give this char a rest and  change to my other char... Ahh I have to quit the game entirely and restart to change char?

 

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 What about waiting for tha5 seconds logout sequence to end?
Amazes me how many people have not figured this. Even the columnist on this site.
Do not be afraid to ask. Guild members are usually valuat 1ble source of info usually.

For the best Conan experience, the choice of the server is extremely important.
Gameplay and community can be different like night and day on (RP) PVP and PVE servers.
Also the size of community does wonders. Less populated servers are by no means less valuable.

 Ahh nice with the 15sec logout screen. But my point is: Why the **** do we have to figure something like this out? Where is this documented in the online manual? What is the point of a 15sec logout timer in the first place?

The 15 second logout is something I have always believed was intended to avoid players from abusing the system. If you could taunt another player and in a second log out, and then log in with your higher lvl to whack the mole you would get heeps of complaints from tricked players.

Another reason could be that it would reduce immersion into a character if you could swap around too fast.

I always start tapping my fingers when waiting for logout, but I still believe it is working as intended. Maybe I'm just a too compliant customer.

To OP, Personally I'd say go for it! I also look forward to trying out SW:ToR when it launches, but I feel that AoC is much more than a temporarily game for my mmo fix. After being a guild officer and 24-7 raider in WoW, I enjoy the way AoC let's you log in for some quick action without spending hours on organising a guild happening. With the rate that AoC has improved since it's botched launch, I am equally stoked on what they will bring next as I am on a new game taking my interest.

Edit: I seem to have fogged up the quoting in an attempt to compress the text. Sorry!

It is all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I heard an expansion was coming but  who knows ? I don't even know how many subs AOC has these days. 

Do not worry about subs, servers are far from deserted. General servers if you like higher populations, RP if you prefer more subtle communities. I have no experience with those fresh start servers tho.

I would definitely recommend AoC do anyone. It is a very decent game to pass some free time with.

One thing going down is the population after free trials.

If you are from Norway and love funcom play it if not there are so many better MMOs to play other than this crappy game.

Think of AOC as a burning Japanese Zero in world war II. The pilot has a choice of jumping to his death or riding the plane down and crashing and burning. So far Funcom is riding the plane down.

Jihad works both ways

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I heard an expansion was coming but  who knows ? I don't even know how many subs AOC has these days. 

There will be a 30 min demo of the expansion on Wednesday at the GC... Stay Tuned!!

As Davit says Pop is pretty good at the moment on most servers.

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Think of AOC as a burning Japanese Zero in world war II. The pilot has a choice of jumping to his death or riding the plane down and crashing and burning. So far Funcom is riding the plane down.

Jihad works both ways

The trouble for AoC lovers id that the end result is the same, you have one dead pilot and a crashed plane going up in flames. But if we're going to use WW2 I'd compare the situation to the battle of the river plate. The captain of the Graf Spee has three choices,

1: Surrender to the British (F2P)

2: Scuttle the ship (shut down)

3: Make a run for it and fight his way out (get blown out of the water then go to choice 1, or maybe win and/or get home)

At the moment we've had a change of Captain and he's making a go of running the blockade. However his ship is losing men fast and taking heavy damage from the British warships chasing him. He can out run them for a while but his long term problem is he won't be able to navigate his way to a friendly port before the British sink his ship, and he knows it. He has too many minefields to negotiate, enemy ships waiting for him ahead, he can't turn back as he's being chased and he doesn't have enough crew to initiate repairs on current problems let alone a future breakdown that he knows is inevitable! Fuel and ammunition is running low and morale has hit the floor, Craig is also worrying about a possible mutiny and that the Fatherland no longer cares about his ship as they're concentrating on building the Bismark and him getting home is merely a minor plus now.

Also his first officer is getting ready to jump ship onto "HMS Mortal Online" at the first opportunity!

Originally posted by Agricola1

Originally posted by Elsabolts

Think of AOC as a burning Japanese Zero in world war II. The pilot has a choice of jumping to his death or riding the plane down and crashing and burning. So far Funcom is riding the plane down.

Jihad works both ways

 

The trouble for AoC lovers id that the end result is the same, you have one dead pilot and a crashed plane going up in flames. But if we're going to use WW2 I'd compare the situation to the battle of the river plate. The captain of the Graf Spee has three choices,

1: Surrender to the British (F2P)

2: Scuttle the ship (shut down)

3: Make a run for it and fight his way out (get blown out of the water then go to choice 1, or maybe win and/or get home)

At the moment we've had a change of Captain and he's making a go of running the blockade. However his ship is losing men fast and taking heavy damage from the British warships chasing him. He can out run them for a while but his long term problem is he won't be able to navigate his way to a friendly port before the British sink his ship, and he knows it. He has too many minefields to negotiate, enemy ships waiting for him ahead, he can't turn back as he's being chased and he doesn't have enough crew to initiate repairs on current problems let alone a future breakdown that he knows is inevitable! Fuel and ammunition is running low and morale has hit the floor, Craig is also worrying about a possible mutiny and that the Fatherland no longer cares about his ship as they're concentrating on building the Bismark and him getting home is merely a minor plus now.

Also his first officer is getting ready to jump ship onto "HMS Mortal Online" at the first opportunity!

 

 

 I'll summarise for those who couldn't be bothered reading Agricola's post:

"I know nothing whatsoever about the game as it is now or it's state, but I made up a little story!"

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Originally posted by Davit

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Originally posted by Halandir

Ok lets give this char a rest and  change to my other char... Ahh I have to quit the game entirely and restart to change char?

---

What about waiting for that 15 seconds logout sequence to end?
Amazes me how many people have not figured this. Even the columnist on this site.
Do not be afraid to ask. Guild members are usually valuable source of info usually.

For the best Conan experience, the choice of the server is extremely important.
Gameplay and community can be different like night and day on (RP) PVP and PVE servers.
Also the size of community does wonders. Less populated servers are by no means less valuable.

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To me, it matters less that it is possible or not. The problem for me is that it is not documented or explained anywhere that this is possible. I shouldn't have to ask other people for help with such a simple thing. This should be made very obvious by the interface. You shouldn't have to wonder. And for that matter, it shouldn't be such an odd thing that you need to do. Do the thing to log out, but if you wait instead of exiting straightaway, something totally different happens. It is stupid, and it was added in as an afterthought because they weren't clever enough to think of this need. It's not a great game. It plays well, and the Tortage quests are fun, but afterwards it is quite dull.

Worse than that is the community. They are the most depraved, rude, horrible people I have ever seen gathered together. There will be constant invitation to join guilds, just because they want to increase their numbers, not because they care at all about helping people. And you can't ask questions, or talk to anyone, because the community seems to be composed primarily of small children and angry basement men.

I beseech you not to waste your time.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I heard an expansion was coming but  who knows ? I don't even know how many subs AOC has these days. 

 

There will be a 30 min demo of the expansion on Wednesday at the GC... Stay Tuned!!

As Davit says Pop is pretty good at the moment on most servers.

There was a 24 hour demo at release called tortage that did nothing but mislead people as to  what was comming later.

Also Davit is a liar and his job is in jeapordy if he works for Funcom, you demonstrated 100k + people came back during trials, even more during win backs. However, 100k+ people then left the game because of it's shortcomings within weeks of trying it. All of these people were mostly on 3 USA and 3 EU servers so today all the three servers are half full? Just wait till after the X pac for the next server mergers.

IDK if I could call half full at best servers as only 2 are, the rest are basicaly empty.  In business school I learned this: 

Guy 1 tells guy2 OMG your storage sheds are almost sold out you have 75% of them sold!

Guy 2 says: the profits are in the "ALMOST"

However, in AoC's case the serveres are not even close to almost anything, pop wise.

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Other  MMOs that were made good are comming out so AoC's small pop will contionue to decline because aside from a few forum trolls few are loyal to this game.

Originally posted by finaticd

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by SaintViktor

It is all in the eye of the beholder I guess. I heard an expansion was coming but  who knows ? I don't even know how many subs AOC has these days. 

 

There will be a 30 min demo of the expansion on Wednesday at the GC... Stay Tuned!!

As Davit says Pop is pretty good at the moment on most servers.

 

There was a 24 hour demo at release called tortage that did nothing but mislead people as to  what was comming later.

Also Davit is a liar and his job is in jeapordy if he works for Funcom, you demonstrated 100k + people came back during trials, even more during win backs. However, 100k+ people then left the game because of it's shortcomings within weeks of trying it. All of these people were mostly on 3 USA and 3 EU servers so today all the three servers are half full? Just wait till after the X pac for the next server mergers.

IDK if I could call half full at best servers as only 2 are, the rest are basicaly empty.  In business school I learned this: 

Guy 1 tells guy2 OMG your storage sheds are almost sold out you have 75% of them sold!

Guy 2 says: the profits are in the "ALMOST"

However, in AoC's case the serveres are not even close to almost anything, pop wise.

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Other  MMOs that were made good are comming out so AoC's small pop will contionue to decline because aside from a few forum trolls few are loyal to this game.

Didn't they teach you at business school not to state opinions as facts?