Originally posted by Cyborg99

Is their a ceiling height ingame?

I know you can fly higher than you can keep your wings out long enough to get back to ground safely. Falling to your death.

You can time it so that as you are falling to your death you glide a bit as your flight time already recharged one second or two, preventing fatal damage or all the damage if timed properly.

Also I find gliding very fun and useful, shortens travel times and sometimes may save your life.

It is a Gimmick.

And one which will only take them so far.

I'm waiting for the other Gimmick King, World of Warcraft, to issue a patch that gives "Cold Weather Flying" at level 60. The other Gimmick..limiting flight in Northrend after the player fought hard to get it at level 60.

And in Aion it is because of a lack of Air...uhh...Aether.

*rolls eyes*

Please. Give me a break.

Anyway, if you want Unlimited Flight, play City of Heroes/Villains or Champions Online. Those games have unlimted flight everywhere in the game world, and it's beautiful.

Originally posted by Gel214th

It is a Gimmick.

And one which will only take them so far.

I'm waiting for the other Gimmick King, World of Warcraft, to issue a patch that gives "Cold Weather Flying" at level 60. The other Gimmick..limiting flight in Northrend after the player fought hard to get it at level 60.

And in Aion it is because of a lack of Air...uhh...Aether.

*rolls eyes*

Please. Give me a break.

Anyway, if you want Unlimited Flight, play City of Heroes/Villains or Champions Online. Those games have unlimted flight everywhere in the game world, and it's beautiful.

 

Get a life troll :)

There is no restriction in the abyss except for time which can be VERY long with enough variables in your favor :)    Having unlimited flight in a PVP oriented game would lead to rangers and casters being to overpowered and a very very unbalanced PVP game.   Have you even played past lv 10 ?

So how are other games able to do it in PVP? You can't think of ANY way to balance melee in flight? Can you think of any way to balance Melee on the ground against Casters?

Oh you can?

Well golly gee...what would be the difference in the air?

Can't think? Don't know? Feel lost?

tsk tsk.

It's a Gimmick.

The flight is limited because Travel Time is a Time Sink in Aion, just as it is in WoW.

Honestly who really is sold on this flying idea?  Really?

Lots of games have flight.  Lots of games have timid PvP Hybrid models.

Aion is nothing revolutionary.   In Perfect World you can fight and fly, and theres no invisible walls.   In Jade Dynasty you can fly.

Aion is a giant yawn.

 the pve zones that dont let you fly dont let you because yould exploit it.  mobs dont need you shooting at them from max range straight above them, and you dont need to fly over the obstacles they set up to make the zone quests feel like theyre an experience rather then a way to grind some xp (im talking about the campaigns, they can dam near be epic when you get into them, and if you could fly from point a to point b all the time yould never use the flight paths or stop to smell the roses or have to fight or run for your life through aggroe areas, itld make the pve part of the game so much less interesting). as far as the abyss you flight kiters are in for a suprise when the mages bind your wings and you go splat hehe

In my view as a Beta tester, the flying/gliding Aion is another skill/tactical descion to be used primarily in PVP. If your oppoent has 50% fly time left and you have 100% you obviously have an advantage. You dont know the time left that an opponent has to fly/glide so this makes combat less predictable. Does he flee or fight ? Its another decision to be considered when making your pvp decisions and in my view the more decisions/options you have in game is advantageous.

If everyone had limit less flight/glide as a previos poster stated it would make ranged combat OP and fights very predictable.

Its not really desgined as a replacment mount for pve, yes it can aid your travel times but thats not its primary focus. If you want 400% mounts maybe this games not for you.

For those that dont know, you can choose to fly or glide. Gliding slows your counter depreciation by 50% and you can use thermals to aid the glide process.

I'm just going to say most everyone here has a valid point here and there, but even while you can't Fly, you can glide. Flight isn't meant for PvE as much as it is for PvP, and having flight in all areas would be good, but also dumb. I admit, I was pissed and screaming WTF over the phone to friends and legion members playing the game, but the more I think about it, it's a smart decision on NCSoft's behalf. Limiting flight primarily to areas with pieces of "Aion" nearby, in primary and important areas as well as near abyss gates, and in the abyss which is 100% flight zone, is actually quite enjoyable and beneficial if you really think about it. The game is based on Endgame PvP, stop being a bunch of scrubs and take it as is, it's actually not as bad as you want to whine it is. I've practically glided to/from everywhere in the game, you just have to be smart enough to know how to use it.

 Sorry, but your red blob is just unreadable

To answer the ceiling question: Yes, there's also an invisible ceiling, but I think it's high enough not to bother you unless you're feeling explory and want to go up some high object.
I don't know if there's a ceiling in the Abyss, I don't think so, but I'll make sure to find out next beta ;)

Originally posted by Paincake

I just read in a user review that you cannot fly in every zone. Some zones have a invisible wall or something? This is kind of a gamebreaker for me personally. It really restricts the feeling of freedom. I wish this isn't true as its supposed to be the mainselling point.

The only place you can really fly is in the abyss.  You can't fly in cities or most PvE zones.  There are a few small areas in some PvE maps but they aren't large, and they have the invisible walls you speak of that make you quit flying to move further along in that zone.

Originally posted by Paragus1

The entire Abyss (The PvP area) has unrestricted flight.   The PvE areas have restricted flight.

Already over DF, eh? Do Aion a favor, and stop hyping it.

k, if you actually buy into the excuses as to why flight is limited such as certain zones don't have enough aether in the air, if you could fly everywhere you would exploit pve, you would be spoiled by endless flying,  it's because of the lore, yada yada, you need to open your eyes.  Any reason that has come out for there not to be flying in all zones is just a mask to cover their lack of implementing it, nothing more. 

Unlimited flight didn't benefit the games I played in the past, unfortunately it's an immersion killer for the most part and a detachment of the game world presented.

Since flying is in game It would have been easy to allow us to fly everywhere.

They dont do that for reasons mentioned before like ruining PvE/Questing.

PvP is really important in AION and Abyss is one of the most important areas in game as the majority of PvP happens there. Also It is a really big area with many floating isles to reach by flying. In Abyss you CAN and you HAVE to fly anywhere you want with only flying time restricting you but in Abyss there are ways to regain some of that time and if played well you can fly endlessly.

AION devs stated that Flight in AION is not a mean of transportation. Flight is there to add another dimension to PvP combat.

Also, you can glide anywhere and if you master gliding you can use it for faster travels.

Originally posted by Paincake

I just read in a user review that you cannot fly in every zone. Some zones have a invisible wall or something? This is kind of a gamebreaker for me personally. It really restricts the feeling of freedom. I wish this isn't true as its supposed to be the mainselling point.

I have to admit, I was let down with flying from the "flight quest" on. But only a bit. It's still different, and I'll give the released game some time before I make a judgement on that aspect. In particular I'm looking forward to seeing how stats/gear can affect ones "build" of different types of toons.

Personally, I like how flight has been limited.  When I am in zones where I can fly freely, it makes the experience all the more enjoyable.  That being said, as much as I like Aion, I don't think flight was integrated into the game as well as it could have been.  With flight limitations, gliding, and increased flight time in the abyss, I think they are on the right track, but I think some tweeks are necessary for it to be a truly great feature.

I remain optimistic considering that I watched NCsoft to be very responsive to player input during the real (korean) original beta testing.  Sizeable updates to flying and other game mechanics in the coming months after launch are almost certain - I think NCsoft will move fast on game issues.

Originally posted by Palomides

Personally, I like how flight has been limited.  When I am in zones where I can fly freely, it makes the experience all the more enjoyable.  That being said, as much as I like Aion, I don't think flight was integrated into the game as well as it could have been.  With flight limitations, gliding, and increased flight time in the abyss, I think they are on the right track, but I think some tweeks are necessary for it to be a truly great feature.

I remain optimistic considering that I watched NCsoft to be very responsive to player input during the real (korean) original beta testing.  Sizeable updates to flying and other game mechanics in the coming months after launch are almost certain - I think NCsoft will move fast on game issues.

Later down the road, you'll see that the limitations on flight are a necessity in the game.

Originally posted by twiggly

Originally posted by Palomides

Personally, I like how flight has been limited.  When I am in zones where I can fly freely, it makes the experience all the more enjoyable.  That being said, as much as I like Aion, I don't think flight was integrated into the game as well as it could have been.  With flight limitations, gliding, and increased flight time in the abyss, I think they are on the right track, but I think some tweeks are necessary for it to be a truly great feature.

I remain optimistic considering that I watched NCsoft to be very responsive to player input during the real (korean) original beta testing.  Sizeable updates to flying and other game mechanics in the coming months after launch are almost certain - I think NCsoft will move fast on game issues.

 

Later down the road, you'll see that the limitations on flight are a necessity in the game.

Indeed, if you read my post it's largely positive regarding flight mechanics in Aion.  I am only saying that it could probably be better, and if it can be, NCsoft will make it so.

“A beautiful thing is never perfect.”

- Proverb