I have mixed feelings about this game. I really think that is going to be a ground breaking game in some areas such as the PvPvE, in others i think it will be a little lacking such as the ability for new gamers to try this and do well with it. But I really can not say much more about it until I play it, which makes me happy that I get to do the closed beta coming up on the  14th. But I will not say more until after it is over.

Originally posted by Bureyku

Originally posted by Saya98

Sigh all you noobs need to stop saying Aion is a WoW killer and all that bull. Aion is not coming out to kill WoW they are just bringing us a great korean game thats popular in the asian market for us americans to enjoy and play.

I am really sick of americans talking down on asian games despite what you believe there are actually a good bit of us who love korean games, style and art work so go back to your nerfed wow and stay out of the Aion talk.

By the way Aion will not fail there is to many positive things going for it to fail for a long time its not the F2P garbage you see most of the time. Everytime a good game comes out the wow nerds come out the shadows saying O its a wow clone its gonna fail just except the fact that WoW will one day get played out and become old and people will move on to something more mature and modern looking.

 

Word.  Where you been hiding the last year?

I visit these forums alot I just dont post much at all unless I wanna throw my opinion out there I just didn't like this type of post for such a great game and I am sick of people bringing wow up like it was the first mmo to ever be created. And the reason why I can talk highly of this game is because I am in beta I have been since CB4.

Well i can understand how AoC has set the bar; when it comes to lowering ones expectations, I think all game makers watched that car accident and hopefully learned a few things.

However,

When we are talking the future, the one aspect that makes me think that AION has the potential to be a real player is their modified Crytek engine.

Even though, this engine was considered a revolution in gaming when FarCry hit the market, it was nothing compared to the huge impact that Half-Life 2 made when it hit the scene. Now it's distinctly being refer to as a "modified" version of the Crytek 1.0 engine (In NA they are calling it v 1.5 in regards to Aion). So this engine that is being used was actually a very important engine to gaming as a whole, perhaps comparable to Unreal when it came to the Impact on gaming.

I know one example is the use of real time clouds is one way this engine will be used. But when thinking about the physics aspect; it's really hard not to think of the opportunities that AION may be the first to incorporate into an MMO.  I say this not knowing exactly what the modifications has been; or what has been taken away from the original engine-but still, this is probably the most sophisticated engine EVER seen in a MMO.

...but that doesn't mean it will be utilized to the highest degree, but if it can be used to even 50% of the physics, lighting effects, ragdoll...etc...this game could make a real impact.

But i guess we'll see

Im hoping it does.

Aion's success or lack thereof is hard to determine simply due to the fact it is highly dependent on the quality or the RVR/PVPVE or whatever you want to call it.

As a matter of fact, the success or failure of any game really is dependent on the end-game. This (the end-game) is the reason people stay with a game. If its PVP, PVE, raids, crafting or whatever, it the quality is good, people will continue to play.

If you think of the recent game that have had less than stellar success like AOC and WAR, the end-game was bad or non-existant. WAR, for example, had issues with performance with a lot of players in an area. Its end-game was unclear...you had to PVE to PVP or so it seemed. AOC, keeps raids were a buggy mess. Just examples of problems with the end-game.

If Aion's endgame is good, then the game will do well. DAOC was not the greatest game around. Its PVE content was rather boring and it had a long leveling curve. But the end-game was so good and exciting, that it made the PVE and leveling worthwhile.

If the PVPVE/RVR is good, then people won't mind leveling. If not, they won't.

My major issues is still the linear aspect of the zones and the fact that its two-sided. I think 3 sided/faction games work better because it never becomes "us vs. them". But who knows....maybe these will be non-issues.

Originally posted by templarga

Aion's success or lack thereof is hard to determine simply due to the fact it is highly dependent on the quality or the RVR/PVPVE or whatever you want to call it.

As a matter of fact, the success or failure of any game really is dependent on the end-game. This (the end-game) is the reason people stay with a game. If its PVP, PVE, raids, crafting or whatever, it the quality is good, people will continue to play.

If you think of the recent game that have had less than stellar success like AOC and WAR, the end-game was bad or non-existant. WAR, for example, had issues with performance with a lot of players in an area. Its end-game was unclear...you had to PVE to PVP or so it seemed. AOC, keeps raids were a buggy mess. Just examples of problems with the end-game.

If Aion's endgame is good, then the game will do well. DAOC was not the greatest game around. Its PVE content was rather boring and it had a long leveling curve. But the end-game was so good and exciting, that it made the PVE and leveling worthwhile.

If the PVPVE/RVR is good, then people won't mind leveling. If not, they won't.

My major issues is still the linear aspect of the zones and the fact that its two-sided. I think 3 sided/faction games work better because it never becomes "us vs. them". But who knows....maybe these will be non-issues.

mostly agree except the last part Aion uses the balaur to even up things, to totally rip the losing side, or, and thats the part i like, help the enemy against the balaur to succeed. which gives a nice unexpectable twist to gameplay in the abyss.

And imo  for the MMO industry it would be rather important that a new game have succes for a change.

The letdown of WAR, AoC, DF etc dont do the industry any good, especialy when it puts fear in investors

Originally posted by Zippy

Without any real PvE endgame its almost impossible for Aion to attract more than a few hundred thousand western players. Consequently Aion while a nice polished game will never make much of a dent in the Western markets but will do very well in Asia.

Ah yes... this again.  You do realize that Aion will be shipping with much more end game PvE content then WoW did, right?  Not to mention a much better crafting system.

To Leucrotta: While the Baldur do add a small twist on the Abyss RvR... it's not even close to being a substitute for a 3rd player faction.

I REALLY like Aion's crafting system.

Originally posted by durkdreven

all in all you know...I think Aion will fail. In the long run. Just like AOC did, just like WAR did - and any other MMO out there that had claimed to be the "kill of wow".

The thing is, i really really cba playing wow anymore, so i'll still have a shot at Aion just like million others will because...why not try something new? Everything (except AOC) deserves a fair try.

For me its just a time killer until Dragon Age (especially after the delay to November) arrives and until Star Wars: The Old Republic arrives.

I wish Aion the best of luck, and pray that it has more than it promises, but long term potential? I doubt it.

Durk.

 

ps: sorry for the rather pessimistic thread, but aoc taught me not to sell my soul.
 

Funny all I see are people that made 1-10 posts in a lifetime saying that Aion will fail, and talking about the future of a game that is still in Beta is kinda ignorant. So just go and read a book insted of making accounts to flame and troll Aion. No one care what you think since you dont have any expertise to back it up. And they should have a grownup forum for people NOT whining about that they bought a game, and then keeps whining to the end of time because they spent 50-70 dollars. And also crying all the way from the store and back home.

Wait and see and keep playing Tetris or some other free game online so you dont have to whine here. And this is not just to the OP but to the rest of the whining people on this forum. Which I am getting really tierd of.

Originally posted by dracker92

 

I would have to say i have played many games and I have never seen a game this well made I mean you can see the time and money they put into this game. I mean WoW is just trying to noob up there game now so that they can get new people playing i mean level 20 riding mounts come on you can tell they know that a storm is coming and the are trying to keep WoW in the game Both games will in the end servive. So Aion will not take out Wow and WoW would not take out Aion.

For the future to know, and for you to find out :)

Originally posted by Nagalium

If the current 1.5 patch that is on test servers in korea goes live i cancel my preorder at least. One less customer :P tho they got like trillions more who order preorder.

Reason i'll cancel is that the put in the best pvp gear and weapons in an instance doesnt matter its an pvpve instance. I hate instanced pvp (got fed up after 1 year of arena), for me it show's (they might still change tho) that they are leaning towards adding more instanced pvp. Since i allways try (allways succeded so far) to get the best pvp gear (if its a geardependent game) to be on par with the other's.

*hold's thumbs MO will be allright* until then eve got my attention abit longer :)

 

 

The best pvp gear (at least armor/accesory wise) keeps being the abyss one, stacking pvp defense is still the way to go.

Heroic weapons will be more wanted, but PvE weapons were already wanted in 1.2 because of the extendable functions, which cant be seen in abyss ones.

Aion is already a success it has almost 4 million subs in Asia.  What it does NA and Europe is just gravey. 

Is Aion going to have 2-3 million subs in NA probably not but you never know it has the potential to grow if the end game is fun.  I do not see a problem with getting 500k which will put in behind WoW in 2nd place in NA.

All the recent NA MMO's fail because they had a piss poor end game, and such blazing fast leveling that you got to the lack of an end game mostly before your 30days are up.  Easy mode games will never keep subs, there is already a game that is way better at easy mode and it is called WoW.  Why would you play a game that is worse, bugged filled, unpolished verision of it.

Aion is polished, as bug free as you are going to get, graphically good, and has some things such as flying, the pve/pvp twist, interesting combat with chains and movement bonus's, it does enough slightly different for me to want play, how long I will play will depend on how fun the pvp is.

To the Op!

Aion has already got more subs in the east than most western MMORPG's.

It might not do as well in the western market but it's far to late for the 'THIS GAME WILL FAIL POST'

This game has done very well and continues to do so in Asia. It has a large following there. For that reason alone, I think it will continue to do well with new added content.

Originally posted by durkdreven

all in all you know...I think Aion will fail. In the long run. Just like AOC did, just like WAR did - and any other MMO out there that had claimed to be the "kill of wow".

The thing is, i really really cba playing wow anymore, so i'll still have a shot at Aion just like million others will because...why not try something new? Everything (except AOC) deserves a fair try.

For me its just a time killer until Dragon Age (especially after the delay to November) arrives and until Star Wars: The Old Republic arrives.

I wish Aion the best of luck, and pray that it has more than it promises, but long term potential? I doubt it.

Durk.

 

ps: sorry for the rather pessimistic thread, but aoc taught me not to sell my soul.
 

I "think" you're way off....actually I can do more than think about it since I am already in the end game on C-AION.

For U.S. it will be "the" PVP MMO for at least a time.

I played AoC

I played WAR

I am currently playing AION and it really has none of the game breaking issues those other 2 games had.

exactly! word of opinion and hell im using that right now.

in ~6 months ill revive this thread and laugh at the people who claimed aion would become a huge success.

im all for aion proving me wrong tho - wow needs competition and needs to die fast. its vastly outdated and bores me insanely.

Dear Bioware give us Star Wars: TOR, fast!

Ya Wow tops aion lol I mean in Wow you can get to level 80 in a week with recruit a friend (That sounds fun right). I mean Wow has raids that can be done with pug groups easy and you can get T8 in a week. What a Fun game lol in the end Aion is a all around better made game unlike WoW where noobs will be noobs and get T8 without even Trying.

Originally posted by durkdreven

all in all you know...I think Aion will fail. In the long run. Just like AOC did, just like WAR did - and any other MMO out there that had claimed to be the "kill of wow".

The thing is, i really really cba playing wow anymore, so i'll still have a shot at Aion just like million others will because...why not try something new? Everything (except AOC) deserves a fair try.

For me its just a time killer until Dragon Age (especially after the delay to November) arrives and until Star Wars: The Old Republic arrives.

I wish Aion the best of luck, and pray that it has more than it promises, but long term potential? I doubt it.

Durk.

 

ps: sorry for the rather pessimistic thread, but aoc taught me not to sell my soul.
 

Eh, shouldn't compare to AoC or WAR, completely different games.. Maybe compare to Requiem Bloody Mare, or some other title like that.

Originally posted by dracker92

 

 

Ya Wow tops aion lol I mean in Wow you can get to level 80 in a week with recruit a friend (That sounds fun right). I mean Wow has raids that can be done with pug groups easy and you can get T8 in a week. What a Fun game lol in the end Aion is a all around better made game unlike WoW where noobs will be noobs and get T8 without even Trying.

So you're saying that Aion is going to launch with 5 years under it's belt? Are you confused? I think so.

Okay  well you are saying that the older the game the long it will last witch is wrong in the gaming world where newer and better things come out all of the time and the older things die out. The only  reason WoW has lasted this long is because of game trying to rush out on to the market witch then makes a game with lot of things wrong with it. I mean Aion has had weeks of beta testing and also has been out in other places where it has gotten most of it things that were wrong with it taken care of making it a over all better game.