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8/10/09 9:30:46 PM#2
If you have to choose 1 first and foremost it boils down to what games you want to play and what system they are on. I own both systems, and I will try to give you my fairest opinion of both. Right off the bat, Backwards compatibility. Both systems really hurt in this area, it's all really software emulation at this point and there are some games that will work, and some that wont. I still have my original xbox, and ps2, so this isn't really a concern for me at least. There are a lot of games out there that are available for both systems, but I will just recommend system exclusives. Playstation 3: Pros: Great hardware overall, whisper quiet, when developers can wrap their heads around the system the games are amazing. Online play is free. Cons: Games install to Hard Disk, I went with the 80gig, and still have plenty of space. I previously owned the original 20gig and found out I was erasing game data to make space for other games. Game library is small. Recommended games: Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance 1&2, Killzone 2, Valkyria Chronicles Xbox 360: Pros: Solid online platform (but it's 50 bucks a year), cheaper than a ps3, lead platform for most developers. huge install base. Cons: Hardware issues, I've red-ringed one console so far, called up Microsoft, they fixed it free of charge. Hardware can be a bit on the noisy side. Recommended games: Mass Effect, Crackdown, Halo 3, Gears of War 1&2
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8/10/09 9:45:08 PM#3
One of the worst parts of being a fan of consoles is the Vs console War hate. It's mostly pathetic but since this thread is civil so far ill add to it. I prefer my 360. Most of the games I enjoy are on both systems but Ps3 is more expensive and the exclusives don;t really do anything for me (with the exception of MGS4 and Infamous). I don't see a reason to even buy a Ps3 due to limited software exclusives. I would rather Play Fable II, GoW 1&2, Halo 3, Mass Effect, GTA4 with the DLC, Also Xbox live arcade is fun imo and the back catalog of Xbox games are massive (I have over 80 xbox games) so it's a no brainer for me. 360>Ps3 atleast until Ps3 gets more exclusives and No I don't care for this years E3 exclusives Im more impressed with Alan Wake and the new Halo game over what PS3 has to offer. Playing: EvE, Ryzom |
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8/10/09 10:01:03 PM#4
It really depends on what is important to you. I think as far as exclusives go, the 2009 ~ 2010 Playstation 3 lineup is far superior to the Xbox 360's. They had a good 2008 with highlights such as Resistance 2, LittleBigPlanet,Motorstorm Pacifict rift,Valkyria Chronicles and Metal Gear Solid 4. Sony had a great start of 2009 with Infamous and Killzone 2 and they still got Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Demon's Soul, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 and Ratchet & Clank future: A crack in time comming up. 2010 is when lots of the big ones will fall. Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, God of War 3, The Agency, Final Fantay XIV, possibly Final Fantasy Versus XIII, The Agency, DC Universe Online, The Last Guardian, Quanthum Theory, Modnation racers, MAG And possibly the biggest of them all: It took a while before Sony would catch up to the 360's headstart but they are clearly there and already surpassed them as far as future line up is concerned. I think price point is another big issue. Overall i'd say the Playstation 3 is the better console, but if 360 games appeal to you more you should go with that. |
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Brenelael
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8/11/09 9:42:42 AM#5
I went with the Xbox 360 but really only for 2 main reasons. The first was the fact that it's a heck of a lot cheaper than the PS3. The second is the available game library. Most of the games I wanted a console for were available for the 360... some were only available for the 360. I've looked at the PS3 exclusives and they are 'meh' at best. All of the games that I personally would want to play on the PS3 are also available for the 360. As for the "red ring of death" I've had my 360 for about 9 months now and never had any issues with it. With my 2 sons and myself it sees almost constant use. If it was going to red ring it probably would have by now. Doesn't really matter anyways as I have a 3 year service contract on it.
The only real down side of the 360 is the cost of the Xbox live service. I don't hardly ever use it though so it's not really an issue with me personally. Most of the multiplayer I personally do is right on my console with my sons so I only pay when I want an expansion for a game. I personally don't have any problems with the PS3 as a gaming platform it's just when it came down to choosing the right one for my situation all of the cards were stacked in favor of the 360.
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8/11/09 10:01:24 AM#6
Originally posted by Gameloading Are you really looking forward to all those Exclusives or just putting down every game that is going to release for the Ps3 to make the console look better? Seriously from that entire list of crap you could pick maybe two to three games worth buying a PS3 for the games being God war 3 (./yawn), Uncharted 2 (first one was lame) and Ratchet and clank (a series that has sucked after the first three games). I want nothing more than to actually buy a PS3 but with the crap the console has to offer why bother? Sorry MGS4 and Infamous are not worth a near 350 buck console purchase. I await real games for the console.
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8/11/09 3:02:00 PM#7
Originally posted by JGMIII Are you really looking forward to all those Exclusives or just putting down every game that is going to release for the Ps3 to make the console look better? Seriously from that entire list of crap you could pick maybe two to three games worth buying a PS3 for the games being God war 3 (./yawn), Uncharted 2 (first one was lame) and Ratchet and clank (a series that has sucked after the first three games). I want nothing more than to actually buy a PS3 but with the crap the console has to offer why bother? Sorry MGS4 and Infamous are not worth a near 350 buck console purchase. I await real games for the console.
I'm sure that you, as a single platform owner, formed a completely fair and unbiased opinion that has nothing to do with fanboyism [/sarcasm] I call bullshit on your entire post, but i'm sure you played all of the games I mentioned "at a friend", right? For instance, Gears of War 1 & 2 are supposed to be amazing games but Uncharted 1 & 2 are apparently crap? They are the same type of game with nearly identical gameplay concepts! God of War 3 is apparently boring but an overhyped game like Fable 2 is supposed to be a great game? I doubt you really want to buy a PS3, because if you really can't find anything to get excited about of the PS3 besides Infamous and MGS4 you either have done no research on the games or you're desperately trying to justify only owning a 360. |
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RamenThief7
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Joined: 5/13/09
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8/11/09 5:40:30 PM#8
Originally posted by Gameloading
I'm sure that you, as a single platform owner, formed a completely fair and unbiased opinion that has nothing to do with fanboyism [/sarcasm] I call bullshit on your entire post, but i'm sure you played all of the games I mentioned "at a friend", right? For instance, Gears of War 1 & 2 are supposed to be amazing games but Uncharted 1 & 2 are apparently crap? They are the same type of game with nearly identical gameplay concepts! God of War 3 is apparently boring but an overhyped game like Fable 2 is supposed to be a great game? I doubt you really want to buy a PS3, because if you really can't find anything to get excited about of the PS3 besides Infamous and MGS4 you either have done no research on the games or you're desperately trying to justify only owning a 360. It really does come down to a choice of what games you want to play. I wish to play FF XIV soon on my PS3 (the amount of money it would cost me to upgrade my computer to play FF XIV would be enough to buy another PS3). Here are some pros and cons I think we missed on PS3 and Xbox 360: PS3 Pros: Blue-ray built in, no hardware problems to date, solid 2010 lineup in the wakes. Cons: Is still more expensive than Xbox 360, but there's rumors of a $300 PS3 this winter. Xbox 360: Pros: I think they were nailed down earlier. Cons: Little kids and tweens do tend to flock towards the console (along with the Wii), which means dealing with alot of ragers (I have friends who have Xbox 360s and PS3s, and they admit that the PS3 has a far more mature online fanbase). Also, no blue-ray. |
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8/12/09 10:00:31 AM#9
If you want a to actually play game, as in now, then go for the XBox 360. If you'd rather just watch Blu Ray movies until the PS3 library starts to get respectable, which may be never, then buy a PS3. Sony has a history of releasing consoles that don't get good line ups until about two or three years into the console's life span. There's a reason why most people didn't buy either the PSX or the PS2 until the price came down to around $250. Actually, here's a video that shows the PS2 release from a Dreamcast owner's perspective. It's near the end of the video though...
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8/12/09 12:12:52 PM#10
Originally posted by Jimmy_Scythe
The Playstation 3 has no games argument is very, very outdated. The only people who still make those claims are completely clueless about the PS3's lineup and usually dont own one in the first place. |
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8/12/09 5:51:29 PM#11
The 360 because there is more of a variety of games to play than the PS3. Though I wish they would stop making 360 and ps3 exclusives because they are only cheating themselves out of money. Wouldn't it be cool to play Halo on the PS3 or maybe GOW and Killzone 2 on the 360 ? |
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8/13/09 12:08:10 PM#12
i prefer 360..i think it has better exclusive games and FPS and sports game are better on the 360 imo.. and i think Xbox Live is better online gaming than PSN. I dont hate on PS3 though, i actually want to buy one once Sony does a price drop cause im interested in Uncharted 1 & 2, and MGS4. Only game ive played on it is Resistance. gamertag - Swaffle House |
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Jackcolt
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8/13/09 12:36:06 PM#13
Lookit just check out the exclusives list and decide which games you would prefer. I did the same and it was clear to me that I wanted a PS3 -> It simply has the best exclusives I care for that I can't get on the PC. A lot of the hard hitting games available on the Xbox 360 are also availabe on the PC, where I prefer to play games on. The PS3 on the other hand had games I couldn't get on PC that also were interesting to me such as MGS4, Socom 3, Warhawk and inFamous. It's also got MAG, Heavy Rain and God of War 3 upcoming. So for the me the list of games only available on the PS3 where better than the games only available on the Xbox 360. But as I said, check out the lists(you can find them on wikipedia or various) and decide which games you prefer. Xbox 360 has an especially large collection if you don't own a good gaming PC. =========================================================== |
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8/14/09 6:45:37 PM#14
If you buy an XBox 360, like I did at first, and then put all the things on it that the PS3 has, you're going to roughly end up paying just as much as a PS3 costs. Well, that and you're going to have this XBox360 that has all this stuff hanging off of it (attachments). When I found out that I had to go and buy something extra to make my XBox 360 wireless, I got pretty darned pissed. I am not the type to go through a whole research and planning routine before going and buying something, so I just assumed the two consoles came with the same features. So, I was actually pissed off enough about the whole thing that I went and bought myself a PS3. I have loved it ever since. I ran a network cable to my XBox 360 for a little while, mostly to get game/system updates, but then I got tired of how ugly it looked with a network cable running from the living room into my bedroom. My PS3 is awesome. It plays my BlueRay's perfectly. It's got more and more games all the time. I actually prefer the PS3 controller (which is more of a personal opinion thing), and OMFG is it quieter!!! The XBox goes anywhere from sounding like a vacuum cleaner on to a wind tunnel engine. I just wish I would have known before buying the XBox. Maybe I should do a little research and planning next time. Maybe, if I can find the patience. |
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8/14/09 6:52:41 PM#15
Originally posted by JGMIII Are you really looking forward to all those Exclusives or just putting down every game that is going to release for the Ps3 to make the console look better? Seriously from that entire list of crap you could pick maybe two to three games worth buying a PS3 for the games being God war 3 (./yawn), Uncharted 2 (first one was lame) and Ratchet and clank (a series that has sucked after the first three games). I want nothing more than to actually buy a PS3 but with the crap the console has to offer why bother? Sorry MGS4 and Infamous are not worth a near 350 buck console purchase. I await real games for the console.
The whole XBox 360 is cheaper thing is kind of a scam. The 360 doesn't come with a WHOLE lot of the onboard features that PS3 does. I found that out the hard way. Eventually you're going to want those features most likely. Like the wireless attachment that runs anywhere from $85-$100. That right there begins to even the price out. Then if you want to play BluRay movies, get ready for another big chunk. And trust me, the BlueRay player on the PS3 looks damn awesome. |
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RamenThief7
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8/14/09 10:45:15 PM#16
Originally posted by Ockham One thing that always annoys me is when a person says how the Xbox 360 is the cheaper console between that and a PS3. I thank you Ockham for sharing your experience, it shows that Xbox fanboys (or Xbots for those like JGMIII) sometimes do end up paying quite a bit for their Xbox 360. One thing, what attachments did you buy that ended up making your Xbox 360 as expensive overall as a PS3? |
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Brenelael
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8/15/09 5:19:20 AM#17
Originally posted by RamenThief7 One thing that always annoys me is when a person says how the Xbox 360 is the cheaper console between that and a PS3. I thank you Ockham for sharing your experience, it shows that Xbox fanboys (or Xbots for those like JGMIII) sometimes do end up paying quite a bit for their Xbox 360. One thing, what attachments did you buy that ended up making your Xbox 360 as expensive overall as a PS3? While I can't speak for most Xbox 360 owners I can speak for myself when I say that paying the extra money for a PS3 for features you don't need or want would have been stupid in my case at least. I already had a Cat 5 cable right were I was going to put my Xbox 360 so paying extra for built in wireless would have been pointless. I'd rather have it hard wired anyways as it's a lot more dependable and faster than a G wireless connection. Also BluRay? This is not a selling point to me as I don't give a rats ass about BluRay. The extra money you pay for the BluRay movies is not worth it. If you want those features I say more power to you but don't assume that they are important to everyone as they aren't. You like to call Xbox supporters fanboys but it seems that the only ones on a fanboy rant in this thread is you 2 guys.
Edit: Besides when it comes to deciding what console is right for you it all boils down to one thing... available games. Right now the Xbox 360 has an edge on the PS3 in this regard for most people but like it's been pointed out in this thread the PS3 is gaining ground. If you choose a game system based on any other feature besides the availability of games your just not being very smart as this is what your going to use it for 95% of the time. Some prefer the PS3's lineup and some prefer the 360's lineup. I for one went with the 360 as there were only like 2-3 games that are exclusive to the PS3 that I'm even remotely interested in. There are about a dozen Xbox 360 exclusive games that I would like to play however. I may still get a PS3 someday as I have nothing against it. It is a great console but they will have to probably lure me in with a price reduction and a few games I really want to play first. Gran Turismo 5 is a good start however.
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8/17/09 8:36:40 AM#18
Just to throw something else into the mix, I read a couple of months ago (www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2007/08/ps2-still-outse/) that the PS2 is still outselling the PS3. EDIT: Sorry, that was a 2007 link, go with the one below. www.eurogamer.net/articles/playstation-3-psp-and-software-sales-down-for-sony_0 |
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RamenThief7
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8/17/09 9:48:40 AM#19
Originally posted by Brenelael While I can't speak for most Xbox 360 owners I can speak for myself when I say that paying the extra money for a PS3 for features you don't need or want would have been stupid in my case at least. I already had a Cat 5 cable right were I was going to put my Xbox 360 so paying extra for built in wireless would have been pointless. I'd rather have it hard wired anyways as it's a lot more dependable and faster than a G wireless connection. Also BluRay? This is not a selling point to me as I don't give a rats ass about BluRay. The extra money you pay for the BluRay movies is not worth it. If you want those features I say more power to you but don't assume that they are important to everyone as they aren't. You like to call Xbox supporters fanboys but it seems that the only ones on a fanboy rant in this thread is you 2 guys.
Edit: Besides when it comes to deciding what console is right for you it all boils down to one thing... available games. Right now the Xbox 360 has an edge on the PS3 in this regard for most people but like it's been pointed out in this thread the PS3 is gaining ground. If you choose a game system based on any other feature besides the availability of games your just not being very smart as this is what your going to use it for 95% of the time. Some prefer the PS3's lineup and some prefer the 360's lineup. I for one went with the 360 as there were only like 2-3 games that are exclusive to the PS3 that I'm even remotely interested in. There are about a dozen Xbox 360 exclusive games that I would like to play however. I may still get a PS3 someday as I have nothing against it. It is a great console but they will have to probably lure me in with a price reduction and a few games I really want to play first. Gran Turismo 5 is a good start however.
Bren You seem to be getting a wrong impression of my definition of "fanboy." Fanboys, in my opinion, are the "good" fans of their consoles. I would consider you a fanboy, but that is not me trying to make fun of you. It's stating that you are a "good" fan of your chosen console (since you didn't mention anything about a Wii and although you talk about potentially getting a PS3 you do not have one yet). Then, you get Xbots, the negative name for jackass Xbox fanboys. Not sure what you would call a jackass Wii fanboy or a jackass PS3 fanboy, but I'm sure they're irritating. The one thing that annoys me most is whenever someone tries pitching the idea that Xbox 360 is the cheaper console than the PS3. The thing is what people don't realize is that the Xbox 360 doesn't come with alot of content like a PS3. The Xbox 360, while it doesn't neccessarily need any extras upon purchase, does lack some things that some buyers will want. 1. Wi-Fi add on: It's an extra 100$ if you want it on an Xbox 360. It's included with a PS3. 2. Hard-Drive: Is optional for an Xbox 360, but if you choose to get one, that's an extra $100-150 unto the bill. 3. Online services: $50 a year (for gold membership I believe, I don't remember the others) for Xbox 360. You can cheat this by creating new accounts, but then you don't have "elite" accounts, you'll keep starting over. A PS3 owner pays nothing at all for online services, thus their chosen account(s) enjoys their benefits forever. 4. Blue-ray: Optional for Xbox 360, but many Xbox 360 owners probably went for this when HD-DVD died. It's about somewhere from $100-150 on various models, but I can't nail down a definite pricing on this. All PS3s have a blue-ray drive. The long story short? Technically, without any of these addons, the Xbox 360 is cheaper than a PS3. But, then again, wi-fi is nice, a stronger hard-drive is good, paying online services does keep your account up and running (so you get more of an "elite" status), and some people do like blue-ray and would rather pay that than get a separate (but more expensive) blue-ray player or a PS3. |
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Brenelael
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8/17/09 10:35:51 AM#20
Originally posted by RamenThief7 While I can't speak for most Xbox 360 owners I can speak for myself when I say that paying the extra money for a PS3 for features you don't need or want would have been stupid in my case at least. I already had a Cat 5 cable right were I was going to put my Xbox 360 so paying extra for built in wireless would have been pointless. I'd rather have it hard wired anyways as it's a lot more dependable and faster than a G wireless connection. Also BluRay? This is not a selling point to me as I don't give a rats ass about BluRay. The extra money you pay for the BluRay movies is not worth it. If you want those features I say more power to you but don't assume that they are important to everyone as they aren't. You like to call Xbox supporters fanboys but it seems that the only ones on a fanboy rant in this thread is you 2 guys.
Edit: Besides when it comes to deciding what console is right for you it all boils down to one thing... available games. Right now the Xbox 360 has an edge on the PS3 in this regard for most people but like it's been pointed out in this thread the PS3 is gaining ground. If you choose a game system based on any other feature besides the availability of games your just not being very smart as this is what your going to use it for 95% of the time. Some prefer the PS3's lineup and some prefer the 360's lineup. I for one went with the 360 as there were only like 2-3 games that are exclusive to the PS3 that I'm even remotely interested in. There are about a dozen Xbox 360 exclusive games that I would like to play however. I may still get a PS3 someday as I have nothing against it. It is a great console but they will have to probably lure me in with a price reduction and a few games I really want to play first. Gran Turismo 5 is a good start however.
Bren You seem to be getting a wrong impression of my definition of "fanboy." Fanboys, in my opinion, are the "good" fans of their consoles. I would consider you a fanboy, but that is not me trying to make fun of you. It's stating that you are a "good" fan of your chosen console (since you didn't mention anything about a Wii and although you talk about potentially getting a PS3 you do not have one yet). Then, you get Xbots, the negative name for jackass Xbox fanboys. Not sure what you would call a jackass Wii fanboy or a jackass PS3 fanboy, but I'm sure they're irritating. The one thing that annoys me most is whenever someone tries pitching the idea that Xbox 360 is the cheaper console than the PS3. The thing is what people don't realize is that the Xbox 360 doesn't come with alot of content like a PS3. The Xbox 360, while it doesn't neccessarily need any extras upon purchase, does lack some things that some buyers will want. 1. Wi-Fi add on: It's an extra 100$ if you want it on an Xbox 360. It's included with a PS3. 2. Hard-Drive: Is optional for an Xbox 360, but if you choose to get one, that's an extra $100-150 unto the bill. 3. Online services: $50 a year (for gold membership I believe, I don't remember the others) for Xbox 360. You can cheat this by creating new accounts, but then you don't have "elite" accounts, you'll keep starting over. A PS3 owner pays nothing at all for online services, thus their chosen account(s) enjoys their benefits forever. 4. Blue-ray: Optional for Xbox 360, but many Xbox 360 owners probably went for this when HD-DVD died. It's about somewhere from $100-150 on various models, but I can't nail down a definite pricing on this. All PS3s have a blue-ray drive. The long story short? Technically, without any of these addons, the Xbox 360 is cheaper than a PS3. But, then again, wi-fi is nice, a stronger hard-drive is good, paying online services does keep your account up and running (so you get more of an "elite" status), and some people do like blue-ray and would rather pay that than get a separate (but more expensive) blue-ray player or a PS3. Sorry if I took your fanboy comment the wrong way but you have to realize that most on this site use that term as a put-down to try and discredit someone else's opinion so when i hear it the hair on the back of my neck stands up a little. As for the old Xbox vs. PS3 debate I don't put down the PS3 as a console as I truly believe that it is a very good one that has loads of potential. It's just that when it came time for me to decide which one was right for my situation the Xbox won hands down. The PS3 does come with some impressive features but to someone like me they are just "extras" that I probably would use rarely at best.
What made up my mind mostly was the available games for each console at the time of my purchase. This to me is the single most important thing to consider when deciding on a console as it's the main purpose for having one. Now i'm not trying to say that there aren't some damn impressive games available for the PS3 there were just more available for the Xbox that I personally wanted to play. The PS3 is a great console with a lot of potential however and I do see myself picking one up sometime in the future especially if they drop the price.
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