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8/10/09 11:12:35 AM#61
Originally posted by xzyax
LOL!
So, then they might as well just close down the review section of their web-site since there is no need to do any more reviews... right? I mean once you've found the perfect game, what is the point in doing any more reviews?
Who was to know that a tiny site like Game Observer would have stumbled upon the perfect game and chose to do their one single review of MMOs of said game? What are the chances? Must be fate I'd say! (And by fate I mean $).
Of course, it would carry a bit more weight if said fans that think Game Observer is so correct with their review of DarkFall actually visited and posted on said site. Not that I'd be one to rain on said fan's hypocrisy.
and on and on...
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DarthRaiden
Apprentice Member
Joined: 11/20/05
i make art, Forum Terrorist |
8/10/09 11:13:47 AM#62
Originally posted by Leucent Unlike DarkFall in most other MMORPG's the reviewers feeled the need to zzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz so they gave up on reviewing. You have to understand those sites review action games.
I have a question for you. If the game is so damn good why oh why are you here defending it and not playing. If it s so good let it sell itself instead of constantly making yourself look silly defending it with absolute nonsense 9 times out of 10. So i m guessing since MMORPG.com gave it a 6 it s close to right?
I am at work right now. Same would goes for you. If the game is so bad , why you feel the need to come here and bash it and contribute nothing of value ? Total PcGaming rated 7.4 btw Easy, I have an objective outlook on it because I actually played it, as do you. The difference is I m not delusional, and comment on anything thats said good about it, yet you seem to freak out about anything negative with your usual, nonsense babble most can t understand. Just curious why you can t let someone critique your beloved game without getting all bent out of shape. And then you are the one who started getting personal while i was commenting objectively on the game. Because i was on topic you got all bent out of shape and felt like resorting to personal attacks would help you anyhow. Why you have to react that way if a gaming site reviews DarkFall and rates it with 83 / 100 ? When will you get it that the game is having fans and is being treated as the best MMORPG on the market right now by some people who likes games ?
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8/10/09 11:15:49 AM#63
Originally posted by DarthRaiden Unlike DarkFall in most other MMORPG's the reviewers feeled the need to zzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz so they gave up on reviewing. You have to understand those sites review action games.
I have a question for you. If the game is so damn good why oh why are you here defending it and not playing. If it s so good let it sell itself instead of constantly making yourself look silly defending it with absolute nonsense 9 times out of 10. So i m guessing since MMORPG.com gave it a 6 it s close to right?
I am at work right now. Same would goes for you. If the game is so bad , why you feel the need to come here and bash it and contribute nothing of value ? Total PcGaming rated 7.4 btw Easy, I have an objective outlook on it because I actually played it, as do you. The difference is I m not delusional, and comment on anything thats said good about it, yet you seem to freak out about anything negative with your usual, nonsense babble most can t understand. Just curious why you can t let someone critique your beloved game without getting all bent out of shape. And then you are the one who started getting personal while i was commenting objectively on the game. Because i was on topic you got all bent out of shape and felt like resorting to personal attacks would help you anyhow. Why you have to react that way if a gaming site reviews DarkFall and rates it with 83 / 100 ?
Huh?? Anyways, simply a site never reviewing any game but DFO, MMO wise is all needed to say. You can t see this, so theres no point talking to you about it. You won t change your opinion , as I won t so we ll let you continue. |
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8/10/09 11:33:24 AM#64
The review was a fanbot one. In the thread over on Forumfall about this review (forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php), some guy called Froed raised his hand and claimed the review as his. As it turns out, Froed has a link to his homepage (and subsequent blog) in his profile, and low and behold he lists himself as a 20 year old student/artist. So I guess the funny thing is that the DarkFallers are so desperate for a good review that they will take the word of some 'one-review-wonder' who submitted a review to a relatively unknown (and pretty much content free) game site over and above any semi-professional game site simply because the site/review gave them a rating that they beleieved was suitable. Its pretty sad, but you see a similar sort of behavior in the Vanguard forums, players trying to bury the negative aspects of a game in the hopes that others will be coerced into throwing money at a borked product in the hopes that increased interest/revenue will turn things around for the game. But it doesn't work like that. And given the general levels of animosity that Tasos has generated within the gaming community at large (and the state of Darkfall with it's failed launch and hack/macro-fest), no amounts of trying to sugar-coat the game is going to work, the community (here especially) just isn't going to let that type of BS hyperbole slide. You can try to dress a pig in silk, but underneath it all, Darkfall is still one fat crap covered pig. |
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8/10/09 11:46:15 AM#65
Originally posted by Shoju
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8/10/09 12:00:05 PM#66
Originally posted by Shoju
That's one of the funniest things I have read in a while. Darth, over to you. |
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8/10/09 12:04:00 PM#67
Originally posted by DarthRaiden Unlike DarkFall in most other MMORPG's the reviewers feeled the need to zzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzz so they gave up on reviewing. You have to understand those sites review action games.
I have a question for you. If the game is so damn good why oh why are you here defending it and not playing. If it s so good let it sell itself instead of constantly making yourself look silly defending it with absolute nonsense 9 times out of 10. So i m guessing since MMORPG.com gave it a 6 it s close to right?
I am at work right now. Same would goes for you. If the game is so bad , why you feel the need to come here and bash it and contribute nothing of value ? Total PcGaming rated 7.4 btw Easy, I have an objective outlook on it because I actually played it, as do you. The difference is I m not delusional, and comment on anything thats said good about it, yet you seem to freak out about anything negative with your usual, nonsense babble most can t understand. Just curious why you can t let someone critique your beloved game without getting all bent out of shape. Why you have to react that way if a gaming site reviews DarkFall and rates it with 83 / 100 ? cause (suprise!) this is a forum, and opinions are subjective.. if its this unknown site or eurogamer |
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8/10/09 12:31:07 PM#68
Ok Here is my main issue with this review. If your going to have a 100 point scale and average you have to be true to scale that your working on. First I don't disagree with the reviewers comments on any level. I just think he was afraid to give it a sub 70 score. So lets help him out and be realistic. Lets break down production based on the things he commented on. Story Line: 25 User Interface: 25 Quest System: 30 Game Client Performance: 60 This would give it an average of 35 on Production. By My standards. I think the "haters" would say thats too high. The "Fanbois" would say too low but its a good midway number. This puts the overall score of the game at a 76. Whats a 76 mean? 0: Worst POS I ever spent money on. The game will close down in 2 weeks. A 70's game for me is worth the 50 bucks for the game and 2 months subscription because they did something new or I had a reasonable amount of fun in it. An 80's game is a game i'd play for a year or more and well I just cant say DF fits that mold. 2/10 score is rude and ignorant, but so is an 83 an 83 says the game is pretty darn good better then the average game out there. Even if you put it into its own league its barely average It has some great concepts and in a year or two they could do a lot with it. But unfortunately Shadowbane had a lot of potential as well. Lets hope these guys learn from their mistakes. I didn't go into any of the other categories because honestly it would be a waste of time. Again I didn't disagree with the reviewers comments just his concept of scale when it comes to assigning scores. Anyways another post to clutter the forums. |
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8/10/09 12:39:13 PM#69
Originally posted by Merxion Thats because the guy most probably had the final score in mind (in the 80-85 range) when he started writing the piece and worked backwards from there making sure he gave a score to each of his 'breakdown' categories that would average out and ensure the final result. |
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8/10/09 2:56:07 PM#70
If you think that a MMORPG need to match with action games, MMORPGs are obvious not you genre. Now its obvious the reason you lke darkfall (which is NOT a MMORPG)
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8/10/09 3:27:28 PM#71
Originally posted by Shoju
Ed Zitron is 23 years old, and is clearly an immature twat. So, the exact criteria you are using to discredit this guy's review also applies to the eurogamer review.
nice bit of self-pwnage there, gg. |
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8/10/09 4:01:42 PM#72
Originally posted by javac
Ed Zitron is 23 years old, and is clearly an immature twat. So, the exact criteria you are using to discredit this guy's review also applies to the eurogamer review.
nice bit of self-pwnage there, gg.
So then your reasoning that Kieron Gillen gave it a 4 would be....? Or, the reason that mmorpg.com gave it a 6... the second lowest score ever given here? How did you say that again... "self-pwnage"? |
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8/10/09 4:26:46 PM#73
Originally posted by javac
Ed Zitron is 23 years old, and is clearly an immature twat. So, the exact criteria you are using to discredit this guy's review also applies to the eurogamer review.
nice bit of self-pwnage there, gg. C'mon Javac, we know you fanbots have a big hate-on for Ed, but at least the guy works in the industry (and will continue to do so as you DarkFallers have made him a minor internet celebrity), and while the Tasos worshippers may not have liked Ed's review, it is more in line with the common concensus of the state of the game that has cropped up in other reviews. The only reviews that have seemed to display the game in a positive light are those from 'mystery' sites, one of which (Froed's) has been revealed to be written from a heavily biased point of view. Froed's piece should be viewed as a fan piece, and definitely not as a subjective review. He has a vested interest in the game and is obviously going to do his best to portray the game in an overly positive light. |
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8/10/09 4:51:16 PM#74
Originally posted by Shoju C'mon Javac, we know you fanbots have a big hate-on for Ed, but at least the guy works in the industry (and will continue to do so as you DarkFallers have made him a minor internet celebrity), and while the Tasos worshippers may not have liked Ed's review, it is more in line with the common concensus of the state of the game that has cropped up in other reviews. The only reviews that have seemed to display the game in a positive light are those from 'mystery' sites, one of which (Froed's) has been revealed to be written from a heavily biased point of view. Froed's piece should be viewed as a fan piece, and definitely not as a subjective review. He has a vested interest in the game and is obviously going to do his best to portray the game in an overly positive light.
Froed appears to be heavily vested in DFO
forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php
Sound : 82 LMAO Yet, states it would be nice to have an audio overhaul. ???
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8/10/09 7:51:15 PM#75
Originally posted by Shoju C'mon Javac, we know you fanbots have a big hate-on for Ed, but at least the guy works in the industry (and will continue to do so as you DarkFallers have made him a minor internet celebrity), and while the Tasos worshippers may not have liked Ed's review, it is more in line with the common concensus of the state of the game as regarded by WOW carebears expecting a dumbed-down MMO with generifed quest-based gameplay, brain-dead AI, and safe zones/PVP flags to protect them from losing their handout epix.
fixed. |
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Zorgo
 Hard Core Member
Joined: 12/05/05
Who did wrong? The advertiser hired to sell the game or the consumer who put faith in advertising? |
8/10/09 8:00:09 PM#76
Originally posted by javac
fixed.
And so how do you fix the majority of hardcore pvpers who also regard DF as an utter waste of time and money due to its shoddy production, low polish and incompetent business practices? |
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8/10/09 9:02:58 PM#77
Originally posted by javac C'mon Javac, we know you fanbots have a big hate-on for Ed, but at least the guy works in the industry (and will continue to do so as you DarkFallers have made him a minor internet celebrity), and while the Tasos worshippers may not have liked Ed's review, it is more in line with the common concensus of the state of the game as regarded by WOW carebears expecting a dumbed-down MMO with generifed quest-based gameplay, brain-dead AI, and safe zones/PVP flags to protect them from losing their handout epix.
fixed. Javac, you can do better than that. Having to resort to throwing around the 'dumbed-down' and 'carebear' terms is usually the last resort of those who have run out of anything constructive left to say. We all know that you are a bit better than that. Surely you still have a bit of the old magic left? I would hate to see your standards drop because if you aren't careful one day you will wake up crying when you realise you have become the next Darthraiden. Half these ratings conflict scores could be resolved if DarkFall players accepted that their game is never going to score well when dealing with the mainstream gaming media. The resulting low scores make that pretty damn clear. But having members of the DarkFall community submit 'reviews' (which are little more than thinly veiled advertisements), when so heavilly biased and purposely designed to obfuscate the game's major issues are of course going to draw the ire of those that have an axe to grind with either the game, Aventurine and Tasos. If DarkFall was really worth the high rating that the forumfall community is so desperate for it to have, then the quality of the game would speak for itself. Alas, as yet this is not the case. The most common topics of discussion with regards to the game are hacks and macros, and even if only 10% of the stories are true, that is still going to be a large bone of centention with a lot of players and will continue to dog DarkFall's reputation for many years to come. |
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8/10/09 10:49:55 PM#78
You know, when the fanboys has nothing to say but repeating a useless score after another, that mean there is nothing in the game worth talking (err lying) about. Everybody knows the game is nothing but an empty map for endless afk macroing and occasional zerging a noob. Everybody knows its a huge grind for the sake of 10 min gang banging all naked. What else can they talk about? Flying boat? Is it funny to observe that in other game forums people talk about the game. In DF forum, people talk about some numbers, nobody talked about gameplay. 83 or 100 makes no difference if the game is unplayable. 83 is good only as a face saver. Guys let the fanboys dance on the stage, they need an exit. After all, they are only talking to each other. Nobody give a damn about them any more. Very few talk here now, nothing to talk about, nothing to see. The game is heading that way, you know which way. Heading out of this forum, not worth wasting time, not even as a soap opera. The themes are getting old and spins getting shameless. |
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8/11/09 3:39:21 PM#79
ED ZITRON IS A MARTYR |
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8/11/09 5:04:39 PM#80
Originally posted by DarthRaiden
For example it says ..the only MMORPG worth playing..
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