Originally posted by comerb

Still, Cryptic did shoot themselves in the foot by making the cashshop part of the game. While it may or may not really be a big deal, they lost alot of potential customers just based on ethics.

 

Heh, I don't like cash shops.  And I might huff and puff about them.  But in the end, as long as they don't equate into actual power in the game... its not going to keep me from playing a good game.

I figure thats probably the way it is with most people.  They'll gripe and snarl, and threaten to boycott everything to do with the game, but in the end they'll still give the game a shot and choose to continue to play on its merits..  Somebody in a different thread made the point its no different than Blizzard and its WoW trading card game, and it really isn't.

I dont mind cash shops for fluff.  I would never how ever play a game like Runes of Magic or others where they do stuff like....

Ok player ill give you 6 slots for inventory. you can however  rent more slots! in 6 slot increments for only 10blah blah cash a month!

Originally posted by Comnitus

Originally posted by Moretrinkets

It would be great if you could actually do a spin a la Linda Carter and transform into a hero. Or switch from hero to "normal" in order to do some quests. Perhaps you would have to be careful in people finding out about your secret. BUT, that's too much to ask these days I guess. Therefore, not a WoW killer.

It's a different atmosphere. You can't just say, "It's a superhero game, it has to be like Superman". These are full-time heroes. The main point of having a secret identity is to protect those who are close to you from your enemies. Well, in the Champions universe, if some nutjob targets your girlfriend, you go kick his butt. Then you fight off some aliens, revolutionaries, radiation-crazed mutants, ice demons, monstrous creations, etc. The world has tons of problems so you have to be a full-time hero.

Even on comics there are plenty of heroes without a secret identity ... and villains too.

Not saying that a secret identity feature would not be cool (add flavor/RP element). They may add something like that in the future... the game is just new... not finished.

Anyway, you can have lots costumes slots and you can create many looks... from monster to a regular guy or a cheerleader (save the world!)... so even if there is not a game feature behind it, you can RP at will. Most my heroes in CoH had one *normal* costume/outfit and it worked great.

RP is not about game mechanics. Its about players pretending ;-)

HELLO KITTY ONLINE is the ONE and ONLY game that has made WOW TREMBLE in its goddamn PANTS!!!

PANTS!!!!

Originally posted by Bodeus

I am soo glad Champions Online does NOT have open world pvp. WoW/DarkFail/L2 are the horrible  way they are because of the PvP and PvP community. I hope NOTHING ever kills those games for you.

I agree with this... PvP is ok but there are too many people who populate open PvP games whose only purpose in life is to aggravate other players - the game itself becomes lost underneath their endless idiocy.  I often wonder what they do in real life because I know they are not as "Brave" as they like to seem to be in open PvP games.  Their attitude is what ruined Shadowbane for me.  So I am glad champions will not be open PvP, and since players  are only allowed to be Heros I cannot understand why they thought there would be open PvP.

If you dig around, I think Jack Emmert has said on more than one occasion that they don't NEED this game to be a WOW killer for it to turn them a nice profit..in fact, their break-even point is below 100k subs and anything above 100k is pure gravy for them. It's refreshing to see a company come out and say "we don't want to 'kill" WoW, we just want to make a fun game that makes us a little cash"

WoW is an aberration, but a needed one at the time it came out...it really opened up the industry to the general public and spurred more companies into making games. More games, for good or ill, is still better than fewer games.

Originally posted by maxstone

If you dig around, I think Jack Emmert has said on more than one occasion that they don't NEED this game to be a WOW killer for it to turn them a nice profit..in fact, their break-even point is below 100k subs and anything above 100k is pure gravy for them. It's refreshing to see a company come out and say "we don't want to 'kill" WoW, we just want to make a fun game that makes us a little cash"

 

WoW is an aberration, but a needed one at the time it came out...it really opened up the industry to the general public and spurred more companies into making games. More games, for good or ill, is still better than fewer games.

Their idea is a much healthier descision as well. Shows they actually care about their game and are striving to make a decent MMO. But to be honest, you never really know with the fans. It just may surprise everyone and be top within a few years or so.
 

Originally posted by Horkathane

 I dont know about you but I am pretty excited about CO. Its the first Big MMO to hit by a well known Company from a successful mmo background in a genre they started and PWN. Bigtime Mainstream going up against the biggest time mainstream which is WoW. The good thing about WoW is it got allot of people into the mmo industry that would never play mmos before and now they are hooked and sooner or later they are gonna be looking for something else. 

The one thing I like about Horkathane (the OP) is that he/she gets very excited about things. Nothing wrong with that. Im sure they don't really think this game will topple WoW. It just cracks me up how many people seem to actually take offense to his statements. Some people need to back away from the screen and take a reality check.

Cheers!

 Lets rez this question since it's been released...

Is it? People still feel the same?

I can't even believe I saw the words "Champions Online" and "WoW killer" in the same sentence. But I guess people have to weigh and measure every game against WoW at some point or another--might as well be now.

Champions isn't an awful game, and it's kind of grown on me, but it's definitely no WoW killer. My first 5 minutes in the game I was ready to uninstall it. Champions makes a really bad first impression, or at least did to me. After a while it grew on me, but still not enough that I see myself playing long term.

If anything's going to put a dent in WoW it's probably Aion, but I don't think it'll be a WoW killer, either. It's basically a more modern WoW with wings.

This is getting those Sherdog topics about wich fighter will win that people bring back up after the fight just to flame each other

Its similar to what people the day after a soccer match or other sport.

Pointless.

I am still having a ton of fun in Champions Online. I am glad I got the life time as I will be playing this game for a long time. Though, I doubt it will remain as my only MMO. I will most likely rotate between Champions and whatever I decide on doing next, aion or fallen earth. I have not decided.  

your mom was WOW... killer

People who use the term "wow killer" generally have no clue what they're talking about.

Originally posted by FatGamer

I am still having a ton of fun in Champions Online.

The game has been out less than 30 days?  So, I hope so.

I am glad I got the life time as I will be playing this game for a long time.

Life time was what? $200?  So, what do you define as "long time"?  Based on your opening sentence I don't think your "long time" is the same as mine.  Anyway, $200 / $15 = 13.33 - so you need to play for 13 months to get value for money on that sub.

Though, I doubt it will remain as my only MMO. I will most likely rotate between Champions and whatever I decide on doing next, aion or fallen earth. I have not decided.  

And there it is:  You are still having "a ton of fun" and the game is still in the first 30 days yet you are already thinking about something else and moving on?  And not just anything somewhere in the future - but the next thing.  My bet is that in 6 months you might turn this game on to show a visiting friend or relative.
You will tell them you have a "life time sub" and what great value it is.
Then you will think about it again a couple of months later...start it and see the patcher say "298Mb DOWNLOADING" and you will just pause it and think "meh...later".

In fact, you would probably have been better off to buy the box and one to two months of sub to play the game.  In a year, when you hear there have been major improvements and content additions you could sub again for a month.

Sorry, I don't mean to pick your post apart specifically, but your post was typical of what so many people seem to say of many MMOs.

And to answer the Thread Question?  You answer the question.
Based on the fact that the game is new and you (and many others) are already looking to move on?
No WoW killer here.
WoW players play WoW.  Some play it for years.  They play nothing else and they are not looking to move on.
Champions is a fun game... but it is nowhere close to that.

 

Champions is fun.  The character creation is something I can obsess over for hours, trying to create the perfect character that I'll want to lvl to max.  I'm still narrowing it down.

WoW killer?  Who cares.  If you like it, play it.  If you don't, there are plenty of other games for you to play.

Originally posted by Gyrus

Originally posted by FatGamer

I am still having a ton of fun in Champions Online.

The game has been out less than 30 days?  So, I hope so.

Well, I was bored with both AOC and Warhammer in the first week... if I stick with a game longer than a  week,

 I tend to play it forever. I still have subs to EQ and EQ2. 

I am glad I got the life time as I will be playing this game for a long time.

 

Life time was what? $200?  So, what do you define as "long time"?  Based on your opening sentence I don't think your "long time" is the same as mine.  Anyway, $200 / $15 = 13.33 - so you need to play for 13 months to get value for money on that sub.

Well, I also got a lifetime for LOTRO, I still login weekly for Kin events. I also plow through all new content when it comes out. I got my value out of that, ages ago. 

Though, I doubt it will remain as my only MMO. I will most likely rotate between Champions and whatever I decide on doing next, aion or fallen earth. I have not decided.  

And there it is:  You are still having "a ton of fun" and the game is still in the first 30 days yet you are already thinking about something else and moving on?  And not just anything somewhere in the future - but the next thing.  My bet is that in 6 months you might turn this game on to show a visiting friend or relative.
You will tell them you have a "life time sub" and what great value it is.
Then you will think about it again a couple of months later...start it and see the patcher say "298Mb DOWNLOADING" and you will just pause it and think "meh...later".

I am confident that my relationship with this game will be the same as the other games I play: max out content on two toons, revisit for all content updates. This way, I don't have to plop down $15.00 everytime I want to do that. It's a done deal. I like not having a monthly. 

I am looking for a newer title as a 2nd game, as I can't breathe super heroes 24/7 - that's just me. :)

 

 

 

Originally posted by madeux

Champions is fun.  The character creation is something I can obsess over for hours, trying to create the perfect character that I'll want to lvl to max.  I'm still narrowing it down.

WoW killer?  Who cares.  If you like it, play it.  If you don't, there are plenty of other games for you to play.

     If you like creating characters that much you should check out the game Spore.  It's all about making wacky characters... just an observation.

I didn't read a single post in this thread.  I just wanted to comment that I absolutely hate the title of this thread.  Can we stop already with the nonsensical phrase "wow killer"?  Please?  It doesn't even make any sense.

Isn't Champions Online just another City of Heroes?

Originally posted by kainazzo

I didn't read a single post in this thread.  I just wanted to comment that I absolutely hate the title of this thread.  Can we stop already with the nonsensical phrase "wow killer"?  Please?  It doesn't even make any sense.

My sentiments exactly.  The term "WoW Killer" is seriously overused by the uninspired posters, and this must be the 7,893rd post about this stale old topic this week.  The term has lost whatever tiny shred of meaning and worth it ever had.