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World of Warcraft Intervention time!!

Originally posted by Zorvan

All I see is a doctor attempting to create a way to use government research grants to sit on his ass and play games.

Isn't that the reason for government grants to start with? ^^

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by coffee

Truth be told if they were not addicted to WoW and other games they be addicted to something else such as crack,drink,sex,pie etc. Understand it all you like but theres no cure for addiction if your that sort of person.
 

 

 

Wow you sure are an "expert", you do know that there are 1000 of addiction types and millions of reasons why someone becomes addicted. Most people if not all can develop an addiction, that doesn't mean they will always be addicted to something once they overcome one addiction.

It is sad that so many experts roam the internet spreading their infinite wisdom.

 

 

  apparently one more 'expert' has recently entered WoW to spread his infinite wisdom....

And I thought PUGs were bad enough before....

Can you imagine, you pick someone up, and their first words in group chat are:

Trust me I'm a doctor...

or

Tell me about your mother...

Jokes aside, this sort of approach isn't without precedent. Social worker types often get out amongst the crack-whores.

But crack-whores can't shove a sword-of-infinite-doom in you when you irritate them (not without consequences anyway). Nor can they instantly dismiss you (i.e. kick you from the team and put you on /ignore).

At best these therapists will find themselves insta-ignored by a large proportion of players they approach. And they'll probably turn themselves into pvp targets. Sure you'd have to find the names of therapists for the opposing side - but my guess is that information will get around.

What the article doesn't cover however, is if Blizzard's permission has been granted for this scheme only that these therapists want free subscriptions. I haven't checked WOW's recently, but most mmo EULA's include a clause that access to the game is granted only for "personal use".

So without Blizzard's permission, attempted therapy would be a ban-worthy offense.

What's the point.  Addicts are never persuaded by logical arguments or good intentions.  They have to be forced to go cold turkey or subjected to shock therapy or emotion numbing medication.  Unless he will have the ability to hack into accounts and change passwords so they can't login, it will be a worthless effort.

It's really about money, create a illness based on obsessive gamers then of course later down the road come to their clinic for treatment at a cost.

Originally posted by IAmMMO

It's really about money, create a illness based on obsessive gamers then of course later down the road come to their clinic for treatment at a cost.

Good point. If they can get it added to the DSM V there is all manner of potential for profit.

This is just some PHD trying to cash in on the medical catchphrase of the decade, trying to get his name out there.

If they really cared so much, wouldn't a better approach be to study an addicted person playing WoW vs. a person playing WoW that wasn't addicted? You know...use scientific method.

I mean, does an addiction specialist trying to help a meth addict go do a bunch of meth to further understand their patients needs?

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by coffee

Truth be told if they were not addicted to WoW and other games they be addicted to something else such as crack,drink,sex,pie etc. Understand it all you like but theres no cure for addiction if your that sort of person.
 

 

 

Wow you sure are an "expert", you do know that there are 1000 of addiction types and millions of reasons why someone becomes addicted. Most people if not all can develop an addiction, that doesn't mean they will always be addicted to something once they overcome one addiction.

It is sad that so many experts roam the internet spreading their infinite wisdom.

 

 

Pot....meet kettle.  You are just as ignorant and lacking of facts as those you are poorly attempting to ridicule.

Originally posted by daelnor

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by coffee

Truth be told if they were not addicted to WoW and other games they be addicted to something else such as crack,drink,sex,pie etc. Understand it all you like but theres no cure for addiction if your that sort of person.
 

 

 

Wow you sure are an "expert", you do know that there are 1000 of addiction types and millions of reasons why someone becomes addicted. Most people if not all can develop an addiction, that doesn't mean they will always be addicted to something once they overcome one addiction.

It is sad that so many experts roam the internet spreading their infinite wisdom.

 

 

 

Pot....meet kettle.  You are just as ignorant and lacking of facts as those you are poorly attempting to ridicule.

In the famous words of the WoW crowd:

O rly?

That anyone can become addicted to something and that there are many reasons why someone becomes addicted is actually common knowledge.

Prove me wrong please, and don't quote church or american conservative studies.

/EDIT

Oh damn sorry, I just seen that you live in the United States, sorry I should have known. Where I come from many people have something called common knowledge and sense, but I know that is something a lot of americans lack. I am really sorry, next time I stay out of a discussion between americans, since they do not care about the truth and are too lazy to google (WEAPONS OF MASS DUSTRUTION WEEEEEEEEE).

This is just my story and I hope there are very few who plays/played like I did.

If you played WoW or any other MMO like I did before I quit, usually more than 8 hours a day, you're probably filling a void in your life. I just didn't have anything going on in my life before I got accepted at the university so I had a lot of free time and using that time to play games was just the easy, lazy, slacker-friendly way to use all that free time.

Maybe this says more about my personality than gaming addiction or it's people with a personality like mine that get addicted for some reason or another. But saying that games themselves cause addiction is simply not true. If you have an addictive personality you're probably going to be addicted to something.

Did nt Blizzard already cure most people of thier WoW addiction by making it so easy theres nothing much left to be addicted to ? 

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by daelnor

Originally posted by Lumster

Originally posted by coffee

Truth be told if they were not addicted to WoW and other games they be addicted to something else such as crack,drink,sex,pie etc. Understand it all you like but theres no cure for addiction if your that sort of person.
 

 

 

Wow you sure are an "expert", you do know that there are 1000 of addiction types and millions of reasons why someone becomes addicted. Most people if not all can develop an addiction, that doesn't mean they will always be addicted to something once they overcome one addiction.

It is sad that so many experts roam the internet spreading their infinite wisdom.

 

 

 

Pot....meet kettle.  You are just as ignorant and lacking of facts as those you are poorly attempting to ridicule.

In the famous words of the WoW crowd:

O rly?

That anyone can become addicted to something and that there are many reasons why someone becomes addicted is actually common knowledge.

Prove me wrong please, and don't quote church or american conservative studies.

/EDIT

Oh damn sorry, I just seen that you live in the United States, sorry I should have known. Where I come from many people have something called common knowledge and sense, but I know that is something a lot of americans lack. I am really sorry, next time I stay out of a discussion between americans, since they do not care about the truth and are too lazy to google (WEAPONS OF MASS DUSTRUTION WEEEEEEEEE).

 

Not even a good attempt at a troll 2/10. ^^ Our problems have generally been self inflicted, just as most everyone elses are. That is the nature of politics and politicians after all.  Addiction is a complex subject, and has almost as many aspects as there are addicts. Much more hard data needs to be discovered about the subject.  Thats unlikely to happen if people drag government or religion in to the mix.

Originally posted by EricDanie

 Why do I have a feeling this might be something he won't be able to handle, and we may hear of our Doctor's adventures in Naxx soon?

Just my thought lol.

I dunno how anyone can become addicted to the piece of crap knows as wow. There life has to really suck if that game gets them addicted. Pathetic people.

Originally posted by Scyris

I dunno how anyone can become addicted to the piece of crap knows as wow. There life has to really suck if that game gets them addicted. Pathetic people.

Yet another victim of the public "educational" system heard from...

People get addicted to the oddest things sometimes. Be it physical or psychological.  It depends on the person.

This is actually a good idea.  Game addiction IS a problem.  And I am sure there are many people that suffer from it.

If you work and have to get up at 7:00, why the hell are you playing WOW until 5:00 am in the morning.  A person has to know where to draw the line in their money spending and time they spend gaming.

i myself on several occasions have "gone overboard" when it come to money spending.  I blame that on the launch dates of specific criteria games.  But I make it for it in other aspects of my gaming, waiting for the price to come down of a certain game.

MMO gaming can be a serious problem.  If you are spending time or money on more than five MMOs at one time you have a problem and should take a serious look at your gaming.  time vs money.  And you are just throwing away your money if you are doing the latter.

Not only can too much gaming ruin your life, it can also ruin your finances and health.  The gaming organizations are not going to NOT take your money if you are willing to pay for it.  Eye-candy is probably one of the worst addictions of our modern times and needs some looking into.

If you work full time you better take a serious look at your game play.  Because having both can turn into a serious problem.

Originally posted by Frobner

Should games be considered as beeing addictive ?  Yes

Should MMO games be considered as more additcive than other kinds of games ?  Yes

MMO games are alot of the time created to get you hooked on a satisfactiory feeling that gets dragged along the further and further you get into the game.    These games are CREATED to get ppl addicted.  Pay only 15$ a month (and ruin the rest of your life - as as subtext).

Why is there no time limit on these accounts btw?  Maybe its something that the MMO comunity should start to take into consideration.  

Whats an addict ?  One definition is that you are addictive to things that you think about more than 5-10 times per day in real life situtations.  Now.... I know that school ofc isn't really considered as RL and half of students could get through it thinking about WOW all the time... but then... whats there left for those kids further down the line ? 

I personally know of few cases where ppl litterally played their life away as adults - loosing pretty much everything they had worked for in the past - including house and family.  It is real - and it is a disorder and these ppl are addicts.  

You know... Asian countries are now resticting internet use (including gaming time).  Maybe its time that Western countries do the same.  Maybe its time that kids realise that noone will remember who "IAMDABEST" lvl 80 EPIC character was in 10 years time.  That character is worth absolutly nothing..  And the  sad truth is that the person playing it will probably be worth the same....

Think about it...

1. I think all games can be addictive to the same degree.

2. Freedom my friend... let the people live their lives the way THEY WANT! If someone want to play games for the rest of their lives, who are you to think that it's not alright? Our society dictate us how to live enough, we don't need the governement in our personal life too. You like dictators? o.O

3. And if you agree with the communist mentality, why don't you move to a communist country? You seem to like to be told how to act and think anyway eh?

4. I think you underestimate kids. I don't think kids think they can make a living out of MMORPGs. It's often a passion, they enjoy playing video games... they spend many hours a day playing video games but I'd prefer to see a kid addicted to video games than any kind of drugs.

I often hear : "You put way too much time into your gaming..."

I anwser : "Yes, that's true, I spent about the same amount of time you spend watching your T.V. playing video games." (people usally don't anwser back because they know it's true)

5. Everyone has addictions to things in life, EVERYONE! Even you Frobner! It doesn't mean that because your degree of addiction is more severe that it's bad either. It's not your duty to judge no one or tell how someone should live.

Finally,

3 words to you Frobner : Get a life...

pfft  He probably just wants to play the game and get someone else to pay for it via a grant. Full marks for originality.

Its a good 'idea" but do you give someone crack so they can help someone on crack? It is nice to see people tring something other then pulling the plug.