Originally posted by Zhiroc

Edit: Hmm, it doesn't look like you can link to cases from here. So, go to the search site, then do a search by case number for CV2009-093004

 

Not individual cases.

cut and paste this , it will give you all the civil court cases.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CivilCourtCases/caseSearchResults.asp?lastName=&FirstName=&bName=Cheyenne+Mountain+Enter

Looks like Whiting likes to dodge the tax man as well.

Link: http://www.azsos.gov/uccimg9/gifs/0867003-0-001-001.gif

He doesn't pay much in the way of taxes either, although to be fair it is an old document.

In doing a little research, it would appear that the restraining order and appointment of Interim President is to oust Gary Whiting from control. Until someone gets their hands on the complaint, it will not be known if they are looking to control MMOGULS or CME or BOTH.   I venture to say both.

Nedra’s deal became so convoluted with the Jeff Knowles negotiations that I do not even know where it left off. I do know that Nedra made two different contributions into Garvick/MMOGULS/CME totalling $500k and was promised CME stock, various loan repayments, guarantees, etc.    Whether she gave the initial 3 million or was to contribution an addition 2.5M is fuzzy. 

While I should be thrilled that CME’s leaders might be ousted, it also worries me. I have no idea what direction Nedra is coming from. Is she more interested in MMOGULS? If so, she could not be any more harmful than Whiting, right? . Does she want to get Stargate out the door?

This woman has a lot of money, and could give Gary Whiting a run for his life. Heck, she could be trying to get an injunction at this very moment!  

I am going to try to get to the courthouse this week and get my hands on the complaint. Can anyone else get it sooner?
 

Maybe you should take the handy cam and see if Gary's up for an interview - send my regards.

Wrong Gary Whiting.   Our Gary was born 2/6/1956
 

So he was; my bad.

Originally posted by Zhiroc

Looks like an investor lawsuit has hit the books in AZ. It's filed by Nedra and Robert McKell against everyone in sight: CME, Garvick, CMG, MMOGULS, and Now Corp.

It looks like there was a judgment in Utah already. I wonder if their court records are online....

Edit: Hmm, it doesn't look like you can link to cases from here. So, go to the search site, then do a search by case number for CV2009-093004

And it looks like Utah charges for online access to cases... darn.

Great find and thanks for posting, seems that someone is going to nail this guy legally my question is will the judge be clued up enough to see through the phoney divorce? I should think most are and if not the prosecution wouldn't let it slide, seems when it comes to taking it like a man Gary chooses to hide behind a woman!

There is a way to do this quickly..  Nedra[s complaint will NEVER float, plus in this jurisdiction, it will take MONTHS to issue any such order, if approved..  Trust me when I tell you how slow the process is in Maricopa County..

There is a way....  214.587.3977....  Any interested investors that put $25K and up call me., any former employees owed more than $10,000 in back pay, call me..

Originally posted by SemperFiVet

There is a way to do this quickly..  Nedra[s complaint will NEVER float, plus in this jurisdiction, it will take MONTHS to issue any such order, if approved..  Trust me when I tell you how slow the process is in Maricopa County..

There is a way....  214.587.3977....  Any interested investors that put $25K and up call me., any former employees owed more than $10,000 in back pay, call me.. 

This sounds like one of those guys on TV...

"Have you been hurt in an accident? The insurance company won't pay? CALL ME! I'M THE BULL DOG! I'll sue the pants off the insurance company and get you a big fat check!"

You should see it for what it is, because of the ongoing litigation between Whiting/CME/MMOGULS and me, I am not able to contact, in any way,  any employees, agents, directors, officers, investors  etc etc etc .. I CAN respond to anyone who contacts me or my lawyer.. All that will be resolved in a few days, BUT for the time being, anyone that wants to  immediaty address the issues and have significant investments or money owed them, they can email me or contact my lawyer:

Diego Rodriguez, Esq.

Rodriguez Law Office                                                                                                                                                   

602.380.3849  or email him at diego@RLOPLLC.com

Nedra is from Utah, has the financial ability to pursue Whiting, BUT she has no idea what you face in Mesa and in Maricopa County, it is a world of it's own. I personally interviewed 6 lawyers before I hired Diego.. I consider him one of the most sincere and dedicated lawyers I have everworked with and he is very connected to the political machine that has influence in this state. 

Mesa is like the land of OZ when dealing with the Mormon community, it is what it is. I have never seen people defend their own with such passion and stupidity, even when they know they are dealing with a thief and piece of crap like Whiting. Whiting has preyed on, abused, and stolen from the Mormon community, and CONTINUES to do so. He has disgraced the true LDS religion by living and promoting a open polygamist lifestyle, yet the very community that he screws day in and day out, circle their wagons, throw their money in, and keep this piece of toe jam going..

Whiting and his multiple wives, Gagon, Deering, Jenson, Lilly, Carroll and others I will not name will ALL feel the wrath of JUSTICE before the sun sets on CME.. Some will go to jail, others will loose their investments, some might loose their families over this, but that is called collateral damage. The innocent ALWAYS suffer when they live off the spoils of the crooked.

That is what warriors call casualties of war, and what Whiting never figuered on was a all out ake no prisoners fight to the end, He is accostomed to bullying, manipulating, decieving  and stealing from non-confrotational people, and he is good at it..

NOT THIS TIME............ Justice and Fairness For All...   That slogan is written on the back of my lawyer's  business card.. He actually believes it, and so do I..  We look forward to the fight.....

contact me at  bob@jaffapartners.com

Bob's back and with a vengence! 

Out of curiosity http://www.jaffapartners.com/ do you have permission from MGM to use IP imagery that belongs to the Stargate to promote your own business.

I just find it strange that all these companies out there using MGM copyrighted IP material to promote business' that are not part of MGM, jaffa partners, mmoguls, etc.   As for as I knew the only commercial business' that could use the SG IP for there use were ones that had agreements and contracts with MGM.????  Just a thought.

Originally posted by yellowperil

Out of curiosity http://www.jaffapartners.com/ do you have permission from MGM to use IP imagery that belongs to the Stargate to promote your own business.

 

I just find it strange that all these companies out there using MGM copyrighted IP material to promote business' that are not part of MGM, jaffa partners, mmoguls, etc.   As for as I knew the only commercial business' that could use the SG IP for there use were ones that had agreements and contracts with MGM.????  Just a thought.

If you are talking about my website/card  image, it is taken from items in the public domain, no copywrited imagery, AND with the written consent of CME and MMOGULS.

in fact, Wendi Horton, Whiting's assistant, referred me to the person who did the imaging.. Of course that was last October, when I officed right down the hall from MMOGULS and downstairs from CME headquarters..

You are using imagery that maybe in the public domain, but it still cannot be used for commercial use, unless you have written persmission to use it from MGM, considering you are supposed to know the law, I thought you would have known that one.

Remember you are a commercial entity, using someone else's idea and so need permission to use there ideas from the IP, it doesnt matter if the image is in the public domain, usually most large IP holders allow use of that sort of imagery for free for NON COMMERCIAL USE.  Using it for a private company you need permission, dont you realise there is a difference between a copyrighted image and the person that holds the rights to the IP.

The guy that created the image may have released under public domain, it doesnt mean he has had permission from MGM to create it, also if he was to sell that image he would need permission from MGM as he doesnt hold the rights.  I thought you would have known better than this...

As far as I knew you had to have permission from the IP holder to use IP that doesnt belong to you for commercial use, since you are making money or trying to by using THEIR product (IP).  Note I mentioned IP.  If this was the case you could use any images from SG without permission for commercial us for yourself, why would CME get permission to do this, and why would MMOGULS be told not to by MGM......

Since the SG is a MGM IP, they have the say if the images from the show, series or whatever can be used (even if they are not created by them), this is not about who did the public domain stuff, this is usually for non profit organisations, etc, but if your making money using there IP you NEED permission as far as I know.  Or they have every right to sue you....

Originally posted by yellowperil

You are using imagery that maybe in the public domain, but it still cannot be used for commercial use, unless you have written persmission to use it from MGM, considering you are supposed to know the law, I thought you would have known that one.

Remember you are a commercial entity, using someone else's idea and so need permission to use there ideas from the IP, it doesnt matter if the image is in the public domain, usually most large IP holders allow use of that sort of imagery for free for NON COMMERCIAL USE.  Using it for a private company you need permission, dont you realise there is a difference between a copyrighted image and the person that holds the rights to the IP.

The guy that created the image may have released under public domain, it doesnt mean he has had permission from MGM to create it, also if he was to sell that image he would need permission from MGM as he doesnt hold the rights.  I thought you would have known better than this...

As far as I knew you had to have permission from the IP holder to use IP that doesnt belong to you for commercial use, since you are making money or trying to by using THEIR product (IP).  Note I mentioned IP.  If this was the case you could use any images from SG without permission for commercial us for yourself, why would CME get permission to do this, and why would MMOGULS be told not to by MGM......

Since the SG is a MGM IP, they have the say if the images from the show, series or whatever can be used (even if they are not created by them), this is not about who did the public domain stuff, this is usually for non profit organisations, etc, but if your making money using there IP you NEED permission as far as I know.  Or they have every right to sue you....

 

This is crazy, Gary Whiting has turned CME into a ponzi scheme and is using it to run a pyramid scheme at the same time. He still owes months of back wages, back taxes and is about to be sued into the stone age by this Nedra lady who he owes an alleged $3 million dollars too! He's using the Stargate ip and MGM logo in all of these ventures and pulling MGM through the dirt.

However Yellow would rather get on Robert Guenthers back about using SG images from the public domain without permission! Well I guess if Gary can use them to run a ponzi and pyramid scheme without fear of retribution, I doubt Guenther is going to be s***ing his pants any time soon!

I did a little reading up on this and yes you site IS IN VIOLATION of copyright using images from Stargate.

As to your comment about the image was public domain, this maybe the case, but this does not grant you the rights to use it for a commercially motivated website.

Images can have multiple layers of copyright.  If its a reproduction, a copy or whatever, this will never over ride the original owner of the copyright holder.

The rights in images in each of these layers may be held by different rightsholders; obtaining rights to one does not automatically grant rights to use another, and therefore all must be considered when analyzing the rights connected with an image. Rights to use images will vary depending not only on the identities of the layers of rightsholders, but also on other factors such as the terms of any bequest or applicable license.

e.g. I copy the stargate logo or use one of there images, I reproduce this and make it available for public domain use, this doesnt not grant anyone the rights to use this at all.  It just means I have made an image that I have made available to the public domain.  I cannot override the oringal IP holders rights, just because I made it public domain.  If someone uses that image they STILL CAN BE PROSECUTED for breaching copyright laws, just because the creator of the image says one thing, doesnt mean that the original layer of the copyright holder is over ridden.

Looking further into this, I have discovered that most companies will allow FAN, NON PROFIT, etc to use there images to promote thier products.  Companies that are not promoting MGM products, like yours, can be using MGM's copyrighted images to relay a false image that you are linked with MGM.  Which is misleading and a misrepresentation of what a company maybe trying to achieve.

Again your site IS BREAKING THE  LAW, as you dont have permission from MGM to use there IP to promote your own business that is nothing to do with MGM, as mentioned above, using an image in the public domain still doesnt give you the right to use it.

Originally posted by Agricola1

This is crazy, Gary Whiting has turned CME into a ponzi scheme and is using it to run a pyramid scheme at the same time. He still owes months of back wages, back taxes and is about to be sued into the stone age by this Nedra lady who he owes an alleged $3 million dollars too! He's using the Stargate ip and MGM logo in all of these ventures and pulling MGM through the dirt.

However Yellow would rather get on Robert Guenthers back about using SG images from the public domain without permission! Well I guess if Gary can use them to run a ponzi and pyramid scheme without fear of retribution, I doubt Guenther is going to be s***ing his pants any time soon! 

I believe I even quoted MMOGULS as being told not to use MGM IP material, does this give the rights to others to use it and be treated specially?

I was raising points that one person is saying x, whilst still doing stuff that x is doing himself.

I am not jumping on people's back if I am raising a valid point am I not.  MGM has told MMOGULS you cannot do it (USE IMAGES OR ANYTHING ASSOCIATED WITH SG), and they have stopped, but they dont stop there downliners doing it, which makes them just as bad.  My point is, if your gonna call someone out of doing stuff the wrong way, you need to set an example yourself, which by the looks of it isnt happening, see previous posts on copyright, and weak excuses on the use of 'public domain'.

So sue me......   If MGM doesn't have a problem, dont think Ill really jump through to many hoops to make you happy, but thanks for your input...

Well I thought I'd settle this argument so I made a collect call to the Cayman Islands and this is the message that was sent via video phone for all three of us,

I'm not sure if that solves anything, what do you guys think?

Agricola1, his head needs a lens flare and I think it's good to go. :)