I remember back in the day when you had to get your computer reviews from magazines, most mags used a 100% scale to review the games, personally I always found this better as maybe you would get a 60% game and a 69%, but in the 10 scale MMORPG.com uses and alot of web review sites these days they would both be a 6, so no telling them apart its a really vague system. But really any game that would rate at around 60% was usualy garbage or flawed anyway.

seems fair enough

Great review but failboat+unplayable does not = 6, unless your missing the - key on your keyboard.

$$$ vs real review ??

What is it .....none  will ever know

Very disappointed with this review, I find it too simplistic. Maybe they should have got someone with more experience in older MMO's to do it.

"if you are a casual gamer in any way, avoid this like the plague itself" - maybe in your opinion, but I have played this game casually since february and still enjoy it. As long as you don't adopt the ADD generation mindset of "I must be maxxed out straight away" and actually just play the game it is a fun game to play casually, either solo or in group events.

I hope this simple review does not prevent people from trying the game, because a large number of people will enjoy something thats not just another theme park. The best way to rate a game is to work out if you are yawning at 2 am while playing it, in WoW, Aion (first 20 levels anyway) etc, yep theres no adrenalin, in Darkfall you need your gameface on whenever you play, whether its casually or not.

This weekend I could play the Aion beta or play Darkfall, the choice is easy, Darkfall.

I don't want "polish", I want fun, a challenge, a good mix of politics and immersion.

Originally posted by haratu

Rather than focusing on one review, Darkfall is a game that needs many reviews to be taken into consideration. Considering this the ratings can range from 20/100 to 80/100, implying that this is a game highly Dependant on the person playing it. Is it any surprise then that this review says exactly that, that it is for a specific "niche" audience.

Huh?

A game is a game, it either works well or it doesn't.

Saying that DF is "special" and needs a different type of review is just yet another in the long line of excuses that the game's fans make for the problems of DF.

Honestly, DF ended up nothing special, it's at the best a fair game and most of the reviews show that.

Originally posted by marcust

Very disappointed with this review, I find it too simplistic. Maybe they should have got someone with more experience in older MMO's to do it.

"if you are a casual gamer in any way, avoid this like the plague itself" - maybe in your opinion, but I have played this game casually since february and still enjoy it. As long as you don't adopt the ADD generation mindset of "I must be maxxed out straight away" and actually just play the game it is a fun game to play casually, either solo or in group events.

I hope this simple review does not prevent people from trying the game, because a large number of people will enjoy something thats not just another theme park. The best way to rate a game is to work out if you are yawning at 2 am while playing it, in WoW, Aion (first 20 levels anyway) etc, yep theres no adrenalin, in Darkfall you need your gameface on whenever you play, whether its casually or not.

This weekend I could play the Aion beta or play Darkfall, the choice is easy, Darkfall.

I don't want "polish", I want fun, a challenge, a good mix of politics and immersion.

The company running the game did a fair enough job keeping people from playing. A average review from here will not discourage them anymore than already has been.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

  Sry Zorban, I don't know you, but that's 1 of the most retarded posts in this thread. What kinda logic is that?

 

You Darkfall guys sure love the word "retarded". Starting to wonder if that means something.

And if you can't see the logic, then I really don't know what to tell you.

That Tasos is an anti-social maniac & that reviewers should stay away from him. That is dumb. All it takes is write their devs a nice e-mail, saying who you are, that you're writing a full review, so you're asking for assistance in a couple of little things. If he's an ass & doesn't want to help, then write his reply in your review. I frankly could care less about Tasos or Darkfall. Not playing it atm. But I found the review very odd & incomplete. That doesn't mean I don't agree with some of his points.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by haratu

Rather than focusing on one review, Darkfall is a game that needs many reviews to be taken into consideration. Considering this the ratings can range from 20/100 to 80/100, implying that this is a game highly Dependant on the person playing it. Is it any surprise then that this review says exactly that, that it is for a specific "niche" audience.

 

Huh?

A game is a game, it either works well or it doesn't.

Saying that DF is "special" and needs a different type of review is just yet another in the long line of excuses that the game's fans make for the problems of DF.

 

Honestly, DF ended up nothing special, it's at the best a fair game and most of the reviews show that.

If you bothered to read my profile you would find that I never have played Darkfall... where you get the idea that I am a fan I have no idea. I also can not see where I said it was a good game, I merely pointed out that some people would like it and many will not, all of which I based upon a large range of reviews.
 

Originally posted by haratu

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by haratu

Rather than focusing on one review, Darkfall is a game that needs many reviews to be taken into consideration. Considering this the ratings can range from 20/100 to 80/100, implying that this is a game highly Dependant on the person playing it. Is it any surprise then that this review says exactly that, that it is for a specific "niche" audience.

 

Huh?

A game is a game, it either works well or it doesn't.

Saying that DF is "special" and needs a different type of review is just yet another in the long line of excuses that the game's fans make for the problems of DF.

 

Honestly, DF ended up nothing special, it's at the best a fair game and most of the reviews show that.

If you bothered to read my profile you would find that I never have played Darkfall... where you get the idea that I am a fan I have no idea.
 

Sorry, I don't read poster's profiles when making a reply, ( actually, there's a poster in the DF forums that does that constantly, and I find it both creepy and borderline stalking, no offense to you of course ) I am replying to the message, not you personally here.

  According to wiki; Mental retardation is a generalized disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors with onset before the age of 18. I hope this was helpful Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

  According to wiki; Mental retardation is a generalized disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors with onset before the age of 18. I hope this was helpful Zorvan

Apparently you have subaverage cognitive functions if you couldn't understand my comment about Darkfall people constantly using "retarded" in their replies. When i said "I wonder if this means something", I meant it presents a representation of those using the word, not the literal meaning of the word. Seriously, come back when you're capable of understanding the written word.

Originally posted by imortalis

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

  Sry Zorban, I don't know you, but that's 1 of the most retarded posts in this thread. What kinda logic is that?

 

You Darkfall guys sure love the word "retarded". Starting to wonder if that means something.

And if you can't see the logic, then I really don't know what to tell you.

 

That Tasos is an anti-social maniac & that reviewers should stay away from him. That is dumb. All it takes is write their devs a nice e-mail, saying who you are, that you're writing a full review, so you're asking for assistance in a couple of little things. If he's an ass & doesn't want to help, then write his reply in your review. I frankly could care less about Tasos or Darkfall. Not playing it atm. But I found the review very odd & incomplete. That doesn't mean I don't agree with some of his points.

For the simple minded, I'll spell it out: telling Tasos or the players that you are a reviewer ends up with the reviewer being presented with "staged" events, not reality.
 

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

  According to wiki; Mental retardation is a generalized disorder, characterized by subaverage cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors with onset before the age of 18. I hope this was helpful Zorvan

 

Apparently you have subaverage cognitive functions if you couldn't understand my comment about Darkfall people constantly using "retarded" in their replies. When i said "I wonder if this means something", I meant it presents a representation of those using the word, not the literal meaning of the word. Seriously, come back when you're capable of understanding the written word.

The correct way would've been: "I wonder if that says something", but since you didn't phrase yourself correctly, I thought to be kind enough & share with you that little piece of information.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by imortalis

  Sry Zorban, I don't know you, but that's 1 of the most retarded posts in this thread. What kinda logic is that?

 

You Darkfall guys sure love the word "retarded". Starting to wonder if that means something.

And if you can't see the logic, then I really don't know what to tell you.

 

That Tasos is an anti-social maniac & that reviewers should stay away from him. That is dumb. All it takes is write their devs a nice e-mail, saying who you are, that you're writing a full review, so you're asking for assistance in a couple of little things. If he's an ass & doesn't want to help, then write his reply in your review. I frankly could care less about Tasos or Darkfall. Not playing it atm. But I found the review very odd & incomplete. That doesn't mean I don't agree with some of his points.

For the simple minded, I'll spell it out: telling Tasos or the players that you are a reviewer ends up with the reviewer being presented with "staged" events, not reality.
 

Exactly right - you that kind of thing happen all the time in the food world.

Example #1:
A food critic goes to a restaurant and doesn't tell anybody who he is.
He gets served and treated just like any average customer.
He gets a more accurate view of how the average customer will view the food and service.

Example #2
A food critic goes to a restaurant and loudly announces that he's the food critic from such-and-such food magazine. The restaurant owner will fall over himself to ensure that the critic gets the absolute best food and service.
The critic leaves happy and well-fed, but has no idea how the average customer gets treated.

See the difference?
 

Originally posted by Zorvan

For the simple minded, I'll spell it out: telling Tasos or the players that you are a reviewer ends up with the reviewer being presented with "staged" events, not reality.
 

Pretty clear to me Zorvan. A staged cybering would ultimately sway even the most unbiased reviewer.

Think how different this review would be if the reviewer became aware the cybering was fraudulent!?! 0/10 I said it. Think that one over.

  Then the reviewer should do his job by joining a guild, going to some sieges, farming to buy his own stupid house, farm to buy a siege engine & burn his house or someone else's to the ground to experience how it feels, farm to buy a boat, navigate it & shoot with canons, etc. That's what  it takes to write a full impartial review. Put in the time & try hard to experience the main features. If you're anti-social, don't feel like joining a guild, don't feel like farming much, then you ask the devs.

  When a critic goes to a restaurant he goes to order a full meal, the chef's specials included. He doesn't go in, order fries & a soda & then write about how shitty those fries were & how warm the drink was.

Originally posted by imortalis

  Then the reviewer should do his job by joining a guild, going to some sieges, farming to buy his own stupid house, farm to buy a siege engine & burn his house or someone else's to the ground to experience how it feels, farm to buy a boat, navigate it & shoot with canons, etc. That's what  it takes to write a full impartial review. Put in the time & try hard to experience the main features. If you're anti-social, don't feel like joining a guild, don't feel like farming much, then you ask the devs.

  When a critic goes to a restaurant he goes to order a full meal, the chef's specials included. He doesn't go in, order fries & a soda & then write about how shitty those fries were & how warm the drink was.

Using "your" analogy, the critic doesn't order fries and a soda, but he doesn't order the whole menu either. He samples parts and gives his opinion.

Originally posted by imortalis

  Then the reviewer should do his job by joining a guild, going to some sieges, farming to buy his own stupid house, farm to buy a siege engine & burn his house or someone else's to the ground to experience how it feels, farm to buy a boat, navigate it & shoot with canons, etc. That's what  it takes to write a full impartial review. Put in the time & try hard to experience the main features. If you're anti-social, don't feel like joining a guild, don't feel like farming much, then you ask the devs.

  When a critic goes to a restaurant he goes to order a full meal, the chef's specials included. He doesn't go in, order fries & a soda & then write about how shitty those fries were & how warm the drink was.

He also doesn't order everything on the menu that the restaurant has to offer, which would be more akin to trying all of DFO's "gameplay features".  The one meal and the customer service is what the reviewer uses to base the review on.

Originally posted by imortalis

  Then the reviewer should do his job by joining a guild, going to some sieges, farming to buy his own stupid house, farm to buy a siege engine & burn his house or someone else's to the ground to experience how it feels, farm to buy a boat, navigate it & shoot with canons, etc. That's what  it takes to write a full impartial review. Put in the time & try hard to experience the main features. If you're anti-social, don't feel like joining a guild, don't feel like farming much, then you ask the devs.

  When a critic goes to a restaurant he goes to order a full meal, the chef's specials included. He doesn't go in, order fries & a soda & then write about how shitty those fries were & how warm the drink was.

I thought this was supposed to be a "sandbox."  Shouldn't the reviewer play as HE wanted to play, not the way you want him to play.  He played the game, he didn't like it.  A lot of people don't like it.  That's their opinion.  They are entitled to such, just as you are entitled to your's.

If the reviewer was given a boat, doesn't that defeat the purpose of actually playing, which is what a review is supposed to be based on.  Let's just give him the best gear, make him the leader of the best clan, max all of his skills.....kinda silly, right?