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  Stradden

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OP  7/30/09 6:52:13 AM#1

MMORPG.com Reviewer Sean Bulger has been spending some time in Aventurine's Darkfall Online and today files his complete review.

Many MMOs that get released tend to follow a pretty standard formula. They appeal to the masses and tend to follow whatever the top game on the market happens to do. That title used to belong to EverQuest, and now it belongs to World of WarCraft. Some games, however, tend to target niche audiences with the hopes of winning over people that are not as interested in the more mainstream titles. In some cases, this has proven to be a very successful strategy, as shown by the ever-increasing subscriber-base of EVE Online. In some cases, however, this tends to fall short, such as what happened to ShadowBane.

Darkfall is a game much like the two mentioned above. It focuses on an open-PvP environment, player-controlled territory, sieges, and guild/alliance wars, with harsh penalties abound. It does not follow the mainstream design for most MMOs, even if it does take place in a fantasy setting. If anything, I would say that it is closest to ShadowBane in design, but with plenty of departures. The question is, does this niche game actually stack up to have a chance at surviving?

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  Leucent

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7/30/09 6:56:49 AM#2

The summary is my feeling exactly. Good review and bang on IMO.

  ninjajucer

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7/30/09 7:26:50 AM#3

I think the 6 was a tad generous.

  Giubba

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7/30/09 7:28:32 AM#4

Another review of this game where the text doesn't alligne with the score.

If you read the review you imagine a score below 6 instead you find a 6.

 

 

  Mystlynx

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7/30/09 7:36:52 AM#5

I was thinking the exact same thing once I read the review.  Especially his wrap up.  Just didn't seem to really match the score it was given.  But, after playing it myself, I can agree with the text of the review for the most part.  Personally, I thought the world was not well done either, too much clipping of placed items.  And yes, don't need to be tripping over mobs, but walk in a forest and there will be birds, small scurrying animals, insects etc.  Darkfall feels almost lifeless when you are out on your own.

  Clesh

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7/30/09 8:07:38 AM#6

It is really too bad the game turned out as it did, with most of the niche games there will be a make or break period that decides which people stay and which people go, the hardcore/niche community may stay through months of bad stability and bugs, while the crowd who come just to test a new type of game probably will go back to their old game when met with bugs and unfinished content, the reputation the game while have after that usually scares of anyone who is ''on the brink'' of testing it, lowering the income of the company which usually kills the chance the company has of bettering the game.

  shukes33

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7/30/09 8:14:50 AM#7
Originally posted by Clesh

It is really too bad the game turned out as it did, with most of the niche games there will be a make or break period that decides which people stay and which people go, the hardcore/niche community may stay through months of bad stability and bugs, while the crowd who come just to test a new type of game probably will go back to their old game when met with bugs and unfinished content, the reputation the game while have after that usually scares of anyone who is ''on the brink'' of testing it, lowering the income of the company which usually kills the chance the company has of bettering the game.


 

Funny other than "his wrap up" he mostly like the features, world graphics, combat etc and i thought the review was very accurate and honest....but i agree the write up didnt match the score, was expecting a higher end 6 maybe touching 7 :)

Oops didnt realise i pressed quote! i wasnt meaning to mate :) 

  Draccan

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7/30/09 8:17:47 AM#8
Originally posted by Giubba

Another review of this game where the text doesn't alligne with the score.

If you read the review you imagine a score below 6 instead you find a 6.

 

 

 

/agree

Reviewers are soo afraid of a hellstorm because of they predominantly are a business. If they give a too low score then they are afraid to piss of the fans so they don't come back to mmorpg.com or piss of companies that could potentially bring in revenue i the future.

Giving a game like Darkfall with antiquated graphics, lame gameplay mechanics and total lack of pve a 6 is a joke.

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  m240gulf

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7/30/09 8:22:01 AM#9

Maybe a clarification is in order on the score.  I thought it was on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being unplayable while 10 it was completely playable and perfect.

If you read his article, the 6 would fit based on the above logic; however I don't remember if that logic applied to reviews or it was used only in other parts of the mmorpg.com website.

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  beauturkey

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7/30/09 8:29:53 AM#10

/agree

Reviewers are soo afraid of a hellstorm because of they predominantly are a business. If they give a too low score then they are afraid to piss of the fans so they don't come back to mmorpg.com or piss of companies that could potentially bring in revenue i the future.

Giving a game like Darkfall with antiquated graphics, lame gameplay mechanics and total lack of pve a 6 is a joke.

 

 They aren't afraid of "pissing off fans." lol

 If you think that, you haven't seen some of the things they feature, write, or link to. I mean, in this very article he basically says that Vanguard had more polish than Darkfall. If that isn't asking for players to respond strongly, I don't know what is.

 

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  Draccan

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7/30/09 8:33:21 AM#11
Originally posted by beauturkey

/agree

Reviewers are soo afraid of a hellstorm because of they predominantly are a business. If they give a too low score then they are afraid to piss of the fans so they don't come back to mmorpg.com or piss of companies that could potentially bring in revenue i the future.

Giving a game like Darkfall with antiquated graphics, lame gameplay mechanics and total lack of pve a 6 is a joke.

 

 They aren't afraid of "pissing off fans." lol

 If you think that, you haven't seen some of the things they feature, write, or link to. I mean, in this very article he basically says that Vanguard had more polish than Darkfall. If that isn't asking for players to respond strongly, I don't know what is.

 

  Beau

 

 

 

Because they know a rave review or anything remotely like it would spark even more hate on the forums. I really doubt anyone can seriously give it a 6 / 10 if you aren't a diehard fan.

Look at this:

Final Score
6

Acceptable

Pros
Good concepts
Non-Standard design
Well designed world
Cons
Clunky controls
Huge lack of polish
Little content
Very niche audience
Very poor interface

Consider:

What game could possibly then get a 1, 2 or 3? Or even a four or five?

 

This is not serious reviewing.

 

 

 

 

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  ID10T

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7/30/09 8:37:01 AM#12

Well, I don't really agree with the reviewer I have been playing DF since release on EU and now I am on NA. I can't go back to the cartoon games ever again, DF graphic are very cool I think the down side is most people don't have a power house machine to turn up the graphic past medium it really is the next GEN in graphic games. I played wow for 4 years and many others  and I just couldn't get past the graphics, but then again these are things I value, maybe most readers look for quest where I personally couldn't give a dang about quest. DF world is so huge I keep finding new things all the time.

is it a niche game maybe, but I enjoy it. Like the reviewer said if you don't have the stomach for losing your stuff then don't play it. but for the most part understand that your stuff will come and go, As for the banking system you use bags to organise your items. the bank is endless in size and free at the get go. you used colored bags to organize your stuff.

 

 

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  Teala

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7/30/09 8:40:09 AM#13
Originally posted by beauturkey

/agree

Reviewers are soo afraid of a hellstorm because of they predominantly are a business. If they give a too low score then they are afraid to piss of the fans so they don't come back to mmorpg.com or piss of companies that could potentially bring in revenue i the future.

Giving a game like Darkfall with antiquated graphics, lame gameplay mechanics and total lack of pve a 6 is a joke.

 

 They aren't afraid of "pissing off fans." lol

 If you think that, you haven't seen some of the things they feature, write, or link to. I mean, in this very article he basically says that Vanguard had more polish than Darkfall. If that isn't asking for players to respond strongly, I don't know what is.

 

  Beau

 

 

Maybe because Vanguard was when it launched.    I played Vanguard at launch and I happen to get a chance to play DFO a few times on a friends account and vanguard was way more finished and polished compared to DFO.    So don't even go there.
 

  green13

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7/30/09 8:40:42 AM#14

I think that review was truly terrible.

The PvP is impressive? 90% of PvP is well-equipped more experienced players killing naked ones. At best it could be described as humorous.

And the racial alignment penalty system.... nice how he just completely glossed over the many and varied ways that this is exploited.

Personally I really enjoyed the combat system in this game. FPS was a nice change. I do miss it.

But the fusion of heavy skill-grinding and full-loot open pvp makes a joke of this game. PvP isn't about castle sieges or big, impressive battles - it's just a non-stop gankfest.

This is a game where the devs turn a blind eye to macro'ing and botting, because going afk for several hours while other players hit you with a sword is apparently good game design....

  Izure

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7/30/09 8:41:07 AM#15

This game wont ever get better then a 6 or 7, and it does lack polish, and the melee fighting at the moment is dull, also the time sinks are a bit of a pain or the fact that you can master everything.

 

But I like the game, and I am one of those niche that fell in love with it.

  User Deleted
7/30/09 8:41:09 AM#16
Originally posted by ID10T

Well, I don't really agree with the reviewer I have been playing DF since release on EU and now I am on NA. I can't go back to the cartoon games ever again, DF graphic are very cool I think the down side is most people don't have a power house machine to turn up the graphic past medium it really is the next GEN in graphic games. I played wow for 4 years and many others  and I just couldn't get past the graphics, but then again these are things I value, maybe most readers look for quest where I personally couldn't give a dang about quest. DF world is so huge I keep finding new things all the time.

is it a niche game maybe, but I enjoy it. Like the reviewer said if you don't have the stomach for losing your stuff then don't play it. but for the most part understand that your stuff will come and go, As for the banking system you use bags to organise your items. the bank is endless in size and free at the get go. you used colored bags to organize your stuff.

 

 


 

Thanks for the laugh!

  User Deleted
7/30/09 8:45:24 AM#17

6? Sheesh, sorry, but thats an entirely political rating if I may say so, not to aggravate anyone too much. Bad enough for the haters, not too bad for the fanbois. Sorry, but compared to other sixes DFO is NO 6 at all. Period.

  Gorilla

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7/30/09 8:47:08 AM#18

 A score of 5 would be generous, 6 is charity.

  Izure

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7/30/09 8:50:01 AM#19
Originally posted by Yunbei

6? Sheesh, sorry, but thats an entirely political rating if I may say so, not to aggravate anyone too much. Bad enough for the haters, not too bad for the fanbois. Sorry, but compared to other sixes DFO is NO 6 at all. Period.

 

Right because 6 for you is based on nice and pretty butterfly worlds and no actual gameplay or risk.

 

 

People who like conquest, PVP, FPS, will like this game.

 

 

Only thing I think needs changing, is a few mechanics, the grind(or skill cap added) and more depth in melee combat.

 

Everything else is perfect  to me, I did not come here to "Quest" for you mentioning that you should hear the line GO BACK TO WOW.

 

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  spacebot

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7/30/09 8:50:37 AM#20

WoW did not even have current generation graphics at launch. There are mmos older than WoW that have better graphics than WoW.

Also DF does not have next gen graphics. It has current/sub current graphics. Mostly for large pvp battle streamline reasons yes? Though it DOES look much better than WoW. (Though that's not saying much.)

 

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