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Nope the game isn't in Beta yet.

So you don't know anything about if there is or isn't an interior of your Starship.

Next post.

Originally posted by Vrazule

Maybe their intent is to put ship interiors in the cash shop at a later date.  Cryptic loves to micro charge, they did it often in City of Heroes with things like the wedding pack and costume packs.  Have fun getting nickle and dimed to death with this company.

Sorry, but Cryptic did not have anything to do with the micro transactions being part of CoX.

On November 6, 2007 NCSoft officially owned the IP to CoX and Cryptic stopped having anything to do with the game at that point.

The first booster pack was offered for purchase on September 17, 2008.  11 months after Cryptic left the game.

Originally posted by Yamota

I agree with the OP. Ship interiors is fundamental in Star Trek. Not having it is like having Star Wars without light sabres and blasters.

Or without Space.......... oh SWG already did that lol.

Originally posted by onibocho

I think Bren that is more or less the point. Most of us who want interiors will be satisfied with just a working bridge at first. Just something to put in the true ST feel. This is something that has been continuously ignored or past over by Devs for the last few years. I hope that Cryptic understands this critical issue. Otherwise they will ignoring a significant source of revinue for this game.

Well, when I say 'static bridge view' I'm not really talking about a fully functional bridge. What I mean is something more along the lines of what was in Star Trek: 25th Anv. by Interplay. This would be fairly easy for them to put in the game at any point and would give people at least an interior viewpoint if they choose to use it for immersion mainly. It would also be really easy to replace with a more fully functional bridge at some later date.

Bren

Hi folks, i'm new the forum and i wanted to see what was to be said about STO, personally ship interiors are a MUST, or else it will be like eve-online combined with SWG, not a good combo in my oppinion [i love both games but they are two great tastes that dont taste great togeather] anyway i think ship interiors are a must-have in any startrek enviroment game, tv show or movie. not to be a crybaby and keeping in mind that things will most likley change if they dont have player ship interiors i'm not likley going to play.

Yep! That would do too Bren. The fact that they decided to completely put it off just frustrates me. I certainly wont buy this at launch as presented so far at least not until I see a change or the promised expansion that includes at least that.

Originally posted by Raltar

Originally posted by Brenelael

Cryptic does not seem to be your typical development studio. They have always been pretty open and honest about their games in the past and haven't really given us any reason not to trust them.

 

YOU...

SHOULD NEVER...

EVER...

EVER

TRUST A GAME DEVELOPER!!!

NEVER!

They are theives and liars the whole lot of em.

Never trust any corporation ever....cause most of them are liars and cheaters. 

Originally posted by LordDmaster

OMG

Nope the game isn't in Beta yet.

So you don't know anything about if there is or isn't an interior of your Starship.

Next post.

This has been a big topic and it has been stated by Cryptic that Ship Interiors will be QUEST ONLY at launch for STO. This will however change later as full ship interiors for your personal ship are slated to be added in with a patch after game launch.

So, officially, NO INTERIORS at launch for the game. (other then a few static ones used for quests)

But, they will be added at a later date. So, they will be available eventually. Sucks to have a delay with this, but as the Devs said, they want to be able to give it to us when they can be customized. forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php

Cryptic did the same thing with Capes in CoH.  They realized they could not get it in the game correctly with the proper effort and release the game on schedule.  Once they did implement it, it was the best EVER.

So, if they say they want to wait and make sure it is done right, expect it to be top notch when it comes out into the game.  Basically it is something they feel is an intigral part of the IP that does not need to hold up game developement.  If they put it in later they can do a much better job than throwing in some hack.

More power to them for being honest about it and putting that up front.

I dont know about you guys but if I had a say over ship interiors and beaming down to planets...I have to go with beaming down to planets. The theme of the game is to seek out new life and new civilizations...not go have a drink in ten forward....thats like making an MMO about the US Navy and instead of traveling around the world and doing stuff its all about going down to the galley for lunch

Originally posted by NovaKayne

Cryptic did the same thing with Capes in CoH.  They realized they could not get it in the game correctly with the proper effort and release the game on schedule.  Once they did implement it, it was the best EVER.

 

So, if they say they want to wait and make sure it is done right, expect it to be top notch when it comes out into the game.  Basically it is something they feel is an intigral part of the IP that does not need to hold up game developement.  If they put it in later they can do a much better job than throwing in some hack.

 

More power to them for being honest about it and putting that up front.

And I'm sure before COH launched there was more than a few folks screaming "OMG!! You CAN'T have a super hero game without capes? What the hell is cryptic thinking?"  So I'm glad that there is precedence on this as far as Cryptic is concerned. And I agree with the philosophy of if you can't do it right then wait until you can. We should be encouraging that kind of behavior  from developers not discouraging it.

you people are insane ok lets agree that interiors are a fun little thing too have ina game its part of the customazation but firstly remember this its just the interiors its not a big deal it wont make the game any worse....secondly what happens when you are walking around as a captain of your interior and then suddenly an attack happens, do you instantly teleport or do you have too run too get too the bridge what abouit if you are attacked and stuck in the engine (like always) room do you fight without a commander?

Cerberus you are correct on the charge of insane. The likes of warrior have literally been crying about this topic since 2004.

What's "insane" about having a preference that is different then you guys?? People are different and they find different things entertaining.

Probably for the majority of the computing public (although not gamers or MMO players)..... social interaction is far more appealing then combat...period  (Take a look at the popularity of chat-rooms)....and having ANY combat in the game wouldn't be important.

For some people having interiors is NOT a big deal..... for others it's HUGE. Just because people have different preferences and different things that they would find entertaining doesn't make them insane or wrong.

Personaly, I like combat....but I really DON'T want to play the Captain of a Starship......I'd much rather play the Security Chief, or Engineering Chief or Chief Science officer. I also have no desire to Play a Klingon or any other Race/Faction but Fed.... they could strip that out of the game entirely and it wouldn't make any difference to me. Having interiors is ALOT higher priority for me then that.

However, do I think the folks for who being able to play a Klingon or non-Fed race is a HUGE deal are insane or wrong because of thier preferences?.... No, they are just entertained by different things then I.

The bottom line is that different people find different things in games entertaining. Different people have different things they would be looking for in a Star Trek game. Cryptic has made a set of decisions about who they are trying to appeal to first..... nothing wrong about that. But it's just plain dumb to expect that some people won't be dissapointed by those choices..... or to pretend those people are WRONG some-how for having different entertainment preferences then the ones the game seems targeted at.

Originally posted by GrumpyMel2

What's "insane" about having a preference that is different then you guys?? People are different and they find different things entertaining.

Probably for the majority of the computing public (although not gamers or MMO players)..... social interaction is far more appealing then combat...period  (Take a look at the popularity of chat-rooms)....and having ANY combat in the game wouldn't be important.

Social chat rooms don't charge $15.00 a month. Big difference. There is simply no comparison between a game and a chat room. If I want to chat I have e-mail and facebook, both of which charge me nothing for their service. If I want to play a game, then I expect to PLAY, not stand around and shoot the breeze.I suspect that is what the majority of the MMO public feels as well. Comparing social chat rooms to MMORPGs is like comparing apples to oranges.

For some people having interiors is NOT a big deal..... for others it's HUGE. Just because people have different preferences and different things that they would find entertaining doesn't make them insane or wrong.

 

Personaly, I like combat....but I really DON'T want to play the Captain of a Starship......I'd much rather play the Security Chief, or Engineering Chief or Chief Science officer. I also have no desire to Play a Klingon or any other Race/Faction but Fed.... they could strip that out of the game entirely and it wouldn't make any difference to me. Having interiors is ALOT higher priority for me then that.

And that's fine, but we've known about this approach for almost 6 months now. What good does bitching about it do at this point?

However, do I think the folks for who being able to play a Klingon or non-Fed race is a HUGE deal are insane or wrong because of thier preferences?.... No, they are just entertained by different things then I.

 

The bottom line is that different people find different things in games entertaining. Different people have different things they would be looking for in a Star Trek game. Cryptic has made a set of decisions about who they are trying to appeal to first..... nothing wrong about that. But it's just plain dumb to expect that some people won't be dissapointed by those choices..... or to pretend those people are WRONG some-how for having different entertainment preferences then the ones the game seems targeted at.

I agree that there's nothing wrong with having different preferences. The only thing I question is continuing to complain about it 6 months after the decision has been made. The OP has made this case known so many times that he was kicked off the official boards more than once.The decision has been made. Either deal with it or move on.There's a lot of new games in development  I won't touch with a barge pole, but I don't go into their forums complaining and demanding that the company change it. That just makes no sense and does nothing but create tension on the boards.If you don't like the way a game is looking then don't play it. And don't say that it's just expressing an opinion because there is expressing an opinion and being a troll.

It would be ultra cool feature to have starship interiors in STO and it would add so much to the game.

It`s not a game breaking issue for me but I can understand how it would be for the more RPG oriented players.

And I can`t think of any sane player that would be against this.

Therefor the "whining" should not stop and Cryptic should be reminded daily about the huge disapointment some players feel about this issue.

Otherwise you wont see interiors, not after launch, not ever.

When everything fails crying a storm is the only viable tactic to influence the game development imo :)

The higher interiors are on the developer`s  to do list the better.

Originally posted by Benjola

It would be ultra cool feature to have starship interiors in STO and it would add so much to the game.

It`s not a game breaking issue for me but I can understand how it would be for the more RPG oriented players.

And I can`t think of any sane player that would be against this.

Therefor the "whining" should not stop and Cryptic should be reminded daily about the huge disapointment some players feel about this issue.

Otherwise you wont see interiors, not after launch, not ever.

When everything fails crying a storm is the only viable tactic to influence the game development imo :)

The higher interiors are on the developer`s  to do list the better.

 

I can agree with this. However a thread like this is okay but when the 'Interiors' people (of which I'm one) or the 'Player Crew' people jump into every thread they can regardless of the subject to make their point even I get a little flustered. I don't mind people making their point as long as it's on topic for the thread it's posted in.

I too really want ship interiors. I've stated this in the past both here and on the STO site. What I don't do is get on my soap box every time I post to preach about it. It does get a little tiring after seeing it for months and months.

Bren

Ktanner,

I could see your point if this were the Official Forums or if other threads were being hijacked with this discussion. However, these aren't the official boards and THIS thread in particular is specificaly devoted to this subject. The discussion here (as I see it) is more like the discussion between a bunch of fans at a sports site.... "talking sports".

I don't see this so much as a "demand for change"....as it is shooting the breeze about a hobby we all like. Realisticaly we KNOW Cryptic isn't going to make any major changes to their plans just because of a few people at mmorpg having a discussion about it.....anymore then the Cowboys are likely to change their first round draft pick just because some guys at a sports site start talking about how a linebacker might be more usefull then a halfback. If Cryptic does allow thier plans to get changed that easly... then the games going to have alot more fundamental problems then anything specific about the design.

The nice thing about forums is that no matter how many threads get posted to one....you only have to read/reply to the ones that interest you. I don't post here because I expect Cryptic to somehow decide to bow down to my superior wisdom ;)  I post here because it's a fun intellectual discussion site about a hobby I enjoy.