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Darth_Osor
Advanced Member
Joined: 2/17/09
Just because you are unique does not mean you are special |
7/27/09 3:31:37 PM#81
IMO both sides are wrong here, assuming the OP is telling the truth about his conversation with the CSR. ---OP---could have asked in Global how to get around people blocking a path. Many noobs probably don't know about crouch. Someone said hide works too...I didn't know that lol. ---CSR/Funcom---snarky remarks from CSRs are never acceptable. Dealing with unhappy customers is a given for the job. People don't contact CSRs when everything is peachy. Funcom still shouldn't allow people like the two blocking a path to do so. How about dealing with people who have nothing better to do than park their toons in a spot for the specific intent of inconveniencing other players instead of adding work arounds? You can bet this isn't the only thing those clowns do to give the AoC community a worse name. It doesn't matter if the OP is overreacting to what happened or not...he is one less customer and potentially more if people he knows ask him about AoC and he tells them how awful it is. |
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7/27/09 3:50:07 PM#82
Originally posted by Sevenwind
Riiiiggghhhttt....community if fine, it is the FEW asshats in global that everyone on these forums seems to think speaks for the rest of the playing community in AoC. WRONG. You know damn well there are asshats in every mmo stop trying to spin. The CS is always bad in any game when someone doesn't get what they want. I had a level 50 destiny quest that got bugged. An hour sitting in que the CS fixed it and then waited for me to see if it was fixed. You ask nicely in a manner that is respectful you will get a lot more attention and help than if you bitch and moan. while you are right, every MMO has a asshat or two of all MMOs I have placed and this includes just about every western MMO I have to rank AoC at number 1 in asshat population. Probably becauue of the greifer friendly PvP system, and the appeal to juvenile minds with the pixilated sex and blood 3 times I sent off email trouble tickets to FC trying to resolve client issues using the ticket system and never heard back from CS, except for a automated "we have received your email" reply |
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7/27/09 3:57:42 PM#83
I've always found the community in AoC extremely helpful on fury and crom EU servers. Anytime I've asked a question in global chat I've always instantly received several replies. Also I don't understand how people in this thread are being elitist. No one is saying the OP is stupid because he didn't already know how to crouch. They are saying he was wrong to go straight to a GM and then come here and say that aoc fails because the GM didn't help him in this case. How is that elitist? |
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7/27/09 4:13:07 PM#84
Originally posted by MENGKESHI Post #4 says "It's called crouch. You are fail.", then there are more that say he should "RTFH" and so on. You might want to start from the beginning of thread.
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7/27/09 4:23:27 PM#85
Originally posted by Ubie Post #4 says "It's called crouch. You are fail.", then there are more that say he should "RTFH" and so on. You might want to start from the beginning of thread.
And so a few posts like that you and label the entire community as bad? Post the OP story (similar in story) in any other game forum here and see what comes out, elitists and trolls. It is no different, none.
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7/27/09 4:27:12 PM#86
Originally posted by ULQQKED
As I see it you have three options; 1) Crouch (let's you move through other players) 2) Go into hide (has same effect) 3) Go around (in this case, jump off the pier and swim to the boat) My main reasons for playing mmo's is the added social aspect of playing with other people, and the extra challenge that other people can add to the game's AI. You could have seen this episode with the two corn-holes as a chance to do some RP'ing, bypassing them in any of the three ways I suggested, and shown them your fiercest fart emote. Then moved on to the next challenge, that mmo's are supposed to give you, be it by the game itelf or the other players in it.
Looking for a game with no griefers/asshats in it will be a long journey indeed, especially if you look in the ffa pvp ones.
Ps The name of your thread is not very accurate, to say the least. |
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7/27/09 4:55:27 PM#87
Originally posted by Sevenwind
And so a few posts like that you and label the entire community as bad? Post the OP story (similar in story) in any other game forum here and see what comes out, elitists and trolls. It is no different, none.
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards. |
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7/27/09 5:06:17 PM#88
Originally posted by Ubie
And so a few posts like that you and label the entire community as bad? Post the OP story (similar in story) in any other game forum here and see what comes out, elitists and trolls. It is no different, none.
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards. If you look at the topic name, and the way OP wrote his post he didn't come here to seek help, he came here to troll. |
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7/27/09 5:11:59 PM#89
Originally posted by Ubie
And so a few posts like that you and label the entire community as bad? Post the OP story (similar in story) in any other game forum here and see what comes out, elitists and trolls. It is no different, none.
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards.
Lets cut the crap right now. You don't take issue with the community obviously seeing as how you don't play the game so it doens't really effect you. You just want to get on your high horse and bitch and moan and rant to any infant that will listen to you becuase Funcom touched you in bad places.
News flash we're not elisits. We just don't tolerate the kind of troglydyte that spends his time in forums for games he has no intention of playing for the sole purpose of trolling.
TLDR: We're nice to people who deserve it. You're not in that category. |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
7/27/09 5:21:49 PM#90
All those who think the OP should have "RTFM" or should have "known" how to figure it out on his own. Next time a player asks a dumb question in a game, perhaps if it really bothers you that much you could put them on ignore and go about your business. What isn't needed is a bunch of unhelpful replies. If you know the answer, and don't mind sharing it, say it and move on. You get no experience or skill points for being a jerk to another person in an MMORPG game. And in real life you might get a poke in the nose for such behavior. (which is why you'd never behave that way there)
"Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |
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7/27/09 5:27:57 PM#91
Originally posted by Kyleran If he had asked a question on what he could do to avoid that situation in the future I'm sure he would have gotten different answers from people, however when he make this topic using the name he uses and writes the text he did. No one will take him serious, we will see him as nothing but another troll.
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7/27/09 5:36:16 PM#92
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards.
Lets cut the crap right now. You don't take issue with the community obviously seeing as how you don't play the game so it doens't really effect you. You just want to get on your high horse and bitch and moan and rant to any infant that will listen to you becuase Funcom touched you in bad places.
News flash we're not elisits. We just don't tolerate the kind of troglydyte that spends his time in forums for games he has no intention of playing for the sole purpose of trolling.
TLDR: We're nice to people who deserve it. You're not in that category.
Calm down tiger.......you assume alot. I think your post and previously ones in this thread would define "You" as the troll. And you illustrate my opinion perfectly about alot,but definently not all, of the AoC community.
And BTW would "We just don't tollerate the kind of troglydyte" and "We're nice to people who deserveit" be considered "elitest".......?........I may be missing something.
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7/27/09 5:40:22 PM#93
Originally posted by Crashloop
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards. If you look at the topic name, and the way OP wrote his post he didn't come here to seek help, he came here to troll.
I was speaking about the "community" in general (ie. forums, chat, CS), but I see your point. Look at it this way, The OP had a bad experience with AoC, the AoC community, and CS...........he's not happy.......he comes here and tells the world about it. Is there any difference than "the next guy" having a great experience with AoC, the AoC community, and CS.....then coming here and telling the world about it? We're on a discussion board, we discuss MMO's, the good, bad, and the ugly. Would one be considered a "troll" and not the other? |
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7/27/09 5:45:05 PM#94
I fail to see the continuing problem.
OP has already gotten several well meaning tips on how to solve his challenge with basic in-game mechanics. Considering his flame-baiting and unaccurate naming of the thread, a little reaction was to expected. No need to play all victim here.
PS Have a look at my last respons if you need a repeat of the help that has been offered already. |
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7/27/09 5:50:13 PM#95
Originally posted by Crashloop If he had asked a question on what he could do to avoid that situation in the future I'm sure he would have gotten different answers from people, however when he make this topic using the name he uses and writes the text he did. No one will take him serious, we will see him as nothing but another troll.
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7/27/09 6:22:15 PM#96
Originally posted by Ubie
"a few posts"?? How many ppl have attacked the OP in this thread alone? Actually I was only replying to the highlighted statement he made in his post. But since you mention community, if the die-hards would stop being such sensitive/defensive asshats and help out new comers to the game and this forum maybe the population wouldn't be in the tank. Then,"maybe", people would get over their initial bad experience and see that there "are" helpful, decent ppl in AoC and "maybe" it's worth subscribing. But the asshattery seems to rule in chat and most of the AoC boards. If you look at the topic name, and the way OP wrote his post he didn't come here to seek help, he came here to troll.
I was speaking about the "community" in general (ie. forums, chat, CS), but I see your point. Look at it this way, The OP had a bad experience with AoC, the AoC community, and CS...........he's not happy.......he comes here and tells the world about it. Is there any difference than "the next guy" having a great experience with AoC, the AoC community, and CS.....then coming here and telling the world about it? We're on a discussion board, we discuss MMO's, the good, bad, and the ugly. Would one be considered a "troll" and not the other? The definition of a troll is based on how they do it. There are school book examples of aoc trolls on this forums who does nothing else then bash the game day out and day in. When they get banned they make a new account and continue with what they did before. For my part I define a troll when they start bashing out aoc directly telling how much of a fail it is. Specially when they have no proper reason. If OP had named the topic "Bad customer support in AoC" I wouldn't have have seen him as a troll. However he didn't he did everything I expect from a troll.The one and only difference is how a user write what they want to say. Oh and to have said it nothing is worse for a game then fanbois and trolls, both lack the ability to reason with sense and they all stick to their "truth" like it was the holy bible. If a person comes here and praise AoC and tries to tell us how awesome the game is on all areas I will discuss the different things where I know he is wrong with him. If I catch him lying I will make him look stupid no matter fanboi or troll. I do like AoC myself, but AoC is not a perfect MMO where everything works. ;) Just like any other MMO it has it dark sides and not so good things about it. :)
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Elsabolts
Advanced Member
Joined: 10/03/06
Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It |
7/27/09 6:34:27 PM#97
Well Crashloop i invested all told $1133.78 on there promises and got a perma ban for asking about dx10 listed on there collectors edition box. Im retired and will get some kind of satisfaction pointing out things i think are wrong and hopefully inform some folks not to sub to anything Funcom puts out or hypes. They made a mistake screwing me, thats how i feel about it. |
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7/27/09 6:40:32 PM#98
Originally posted by Elsabolts
So you invested $1133.78 on a new computer because AoC was the only game you ever planned to play that would have directx 10? Surely you planned or play other games that offer dx10? I mean blaming funcom because you upgraded your comptuer so you could play dx10 is kinda absurd if you ask me. I am a video game junkie and I would never buy hardware because of a certain game. There is just to many games out there to enjoy, especially with DX10. .. .... .- - . - .-. --- .-.. .-.. ... .-- .... --- .-. . .--. --- .-. - .-.-.- |
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7/27/09 6:57:07 PM#99
Originally posted by Elsabolts
Had you posted any other posts that could be seen as negative prior to the question about dx10? Because some of the people in the first guild I was in got perma banned over minor things, however when I investigated it showed everytime they would post something that broke the rules they got a certain amout infractions points. When they reached a certain amount they would get ban for x days, if they reached a higher limit of infraction point they would be banned for a longer amount of time. The only thing we know about your ban is what you claim, there is no way for us to verify that you actually got permabanned for just asking a question about dx10. I know they were extremely trigger happy on infraction points and such but being perma banned for asking about dx10 sounds way over the top. There is always 2 sides to a story, and I won't blindly believe you got perma banned just for asking a question. Did you invest the cash in the new computer for AoC alone? Like no intention of playing any other game? |
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Kyleran
Elite Member
Joined: 9/13/06
A simple truth-"What people want and what is good for an mmo is not always the same thing"-mrw0lf |
7/27/09 7:00:41 PM#100
Originally posted by Crashloop If he had asked a question on what he could do to avoid that situation in the future I'm sure he would have gotten different answers from people, however when he make this topic using the name he uses and writes the text he did. No one will take him serious, we will see him as nothing but another troll.
Trolls need love too "Just because you aren't paying doesn't mean it's not PTW." - Amaranthar |