I tried the game again and it was about the same as last year for me. I hit a snag when two players from an 80 guild decided to block the Old Tartanis bridge to Kemi with their mounts. I said I would report them and they said "the GM's don't care" after an hour I got a GM response that said "there are work around"s so we won't do anything." I am done with this game for the last time.

Beware, they make you sign up with a CC so when the trial is up they charge you,  you have to keep up with your trial time., at least LotROL didn't make you do that.  I got suckered and they will get another $15 from me, but that will be the last.

You know, you have an ability called "Crouch".

It lets you walk thru other players.

Originally posted by ULQQKED

I tried the game again and it was about the same as last year for me. I hit a snag when two players from an 80 guild decided to block the Old Tartanis bridge to Kemi with their mounts. I said I would report them and they said "the GM's don't care" after an hour I got a GM response that said "there are work around"s so we won't do anything." I am done with this game for the last time.

It's called crouch. You are fail.

Tick box to stop recurring sub? It is there.

While a small thing like this would cheese me off I would just use the crouch that is what it is there for.

There were a number of new players that didn't know this, but the bigger picture is the fact that the GM's don't care.  I have been playing MMO's for 8 years.

Originally posted by ULQQKED

There were a number of new players that didn't know this, but the bigger picture is the fact that the GM's don't care.  I have been playing MMO's for 8 years.

Honestly, I don't play the game, but I find this post hilarious.  If it is as simple as hitting one button to get past them, the GMs better not waste their dang time on something like this!  You do realize that it costs money to pay GMs, and they spend their time helping with game-breaking bugs and other issues, right?  They aren't being jerks or asses; they are treating your request as something that the player should find the answer for themself, which seems like the proper thing to do in this case!

Originally posted by ULQQKED

There were a number of new players that didn't know this, but the bigger picture is the fact that the GM's don't care.  I have been playing MMO's for 8 years.

Why should the GM's care if there is such an easy work around for your minor problem?

You wouldn't bother to just crouch, and instead you insist that the GM's do something about it? < boggle >

Your quoting skills suck, but you imply they everyone knows how to get past this, I remember my first time in EQ I didn't know how to log out. Players intentionally forking other players just because they can in a major city is not right, I saw quite a few new players mad because they couldn't get past them. I won't hurt them with my not playing but if they allow this kind of thing then they wont last as long as they like.

Knowingly blocking a players path to prevent that player from enjoying game content is called Griefing. Since these 2 lvl 80 players were not attacking the newer player, indicates that they were not interested in any type of PvP but rather they just wanted to Grief newer players. You shouldnt need to use a "work-around" to deal with Griefers in an MMO. The GM's should have rectified the situation instead of givin these 2 Griefers the indication that what they were doing was ok.
Does the AOC mmo fail? I wouldnt know. Does the AOC community and GM support fail? It certainly is beginning to look like it does. The fact that the AOC players in this thread are making excuses for this poor behavior is a clear indication as to the quality of player that AOC seems to have playing the game.

Do you want entice new players to the game? Well then you might want to be more helpful and sympathic to these players and not act like it was their fault for not knowing all the little workarounds in the game.

It's no wonder that AOC has gone the way of Vanguard.

Originally posted by Vespers

Knowingly blocking a players path to prevent that player from enjoying game content is called Griefing. Since these 2 lvl 80 players were not attacking the newer player, indicates that they were not interested in any type of PvP but rather they just wanted to Grief newer players. You shouldnt need to use a "work-around" to deal with Griefers in an MMO. The GM's should have rectified the situation instead of givin these 2 Griefers the indication that what they were doing was ok.
Does the AOC mmo fail? I wouldnt know. Does the AOC community and GM support fail? It certainly is beginning to look like it does. The fact that the AOC players in this thread are making excuses for this poor behavior is a clear indication as to the quality of player that AOC seems to have playing the game.

Do you want entice new players to the game? Well then you might want to be more helpful and sympathic to these players and not act like it was their fault for not knowing all the little workarounds in the game.

It's no wonder that AOC has gone the way of Vanguard.

Dude,

Under wich rock have you been hiding all these years.

Tell me one MMO that doesn't have jerks?

That's right. EVERY MMO has them.

So get over yourself.

Cheers

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by ULQQKED

There were a number of new players that didn't know this, but the bigger picture is the fact that the GM's don't care.  I have been playing MMO's for 8 years.

 

Why should the GM's care if there is such an easy work around for your minor problem?

You wouldn't bother to just crouch, and instead you insist that the GM's do something about it? < boggle >

 

 

 

Hmm is it the way most AoC players see it?
 

Some new player come to try out a game that lost a lot of sub.  A game that sent me 3 emails so far trying to ask me to retry it for free.  What would I be seeing if I do return?

High levels obviously bullying the young ones by blocking the way.  They know those who do not know "crouch" are the new comers and they try to hurt the newcomers by saying "GMs won't care".

GMs who can simply answer :"crouch", or add a note referring to some reading materials.  Instead, the GM simply said, "F**k off, we do not intend to serve you".

Nice way to attract new comers, nice way to show people what AoC is, and what the community is.  In as much as I have already left AoC, never make it pass the first month, I still hope that the game will live and grow like EvE.

They all have them, but normally the game ignores them but in this game the GM's support them. 

Originally posted by ULQQKED

They all have them, but normally the game ignores them but in this game the GM's support them. 

Ahh come on that's bull! And you know it.

All the OP had to do is ask any random player in the game how to get pass those 2 jerks and they would have given him the answer.

Would have saved him time bothering a GM for it and he could have go on playing, making those 2 jerks looking like a fool.

Cheers

BTW the toons were Wulfn and Xylton from the guild Eternal Dagoth on the Set server and I have screen shots of it all.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by ULQQKED

They all have them, but normally the game ignores them but in this game the GM's support them. 

 

Ahh come on that's bull! And you know it.

All the OP had to do is ask any random player in the game how to get pass those 2 jerks and they would have given him the answer.

Would have saved him time bothering a GM for it and he could have go on playing, making those 2 jerks looking like a fool.

Cheers

 

Yeah let's ask players  how to get around gfreifers, that is the community this game wants.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

Originally posted by Vespers

Knowingly blocking a players path to prevent that player from enjoying game content is called Griefing. Since these 2 lvl 80 players were not attacking the newer player, indicates that they were not interested in any type of PvP but rather they just wanted to Grief newer players. You shouldnt need to use a "work-around" to deal with Griefers in an MMO. The GM's should have rectified the situation instead of givin these 2 Griefers the indication that what they were doing was ok.
Does the AOC mmo fail? I wouldnt know. Does the AOC community and GM support fail? It certainly is beginning to look like it does. The fact that the AOC players in this thread are making excuses for this poor behavior is a clear indication as to the quality of player that AOC seems to have playing the game.

Do you want entice new players to the game? Well then you might want to be more helpful and sympathic to these players and not act like it was their fault for not knowing all the little workarounds in the game.

It's no wonder that AOC has gone the way of Vanguard.

 

Dude,

Under wich rock have you been hiding all these years.

Tell me one MMO that doesn't have jerks?

 

That's right. EVERY MMO has them.

So get over yourself.

Cheers

Every game has jerks.

Not all games allow jerks to ruin the gameplay of others.  I can pretty much ignore all the jerks in WoW.  I can ignore the Imperials in SWG, so long as I refuse to flag up for pvp.

Most decent games will do something either thru game design or simply ban excessively irritating behaviour.  In WoW if someone spams I can report him and the game will automatically mute him for me for a short while.  Very handy.  In WoW again, someone masterlooted and ninjaed the entire boss.  2 days later, he got a 3 day ban, and all items removed from him.

At the end, it all boils down to what you want from the game.  If you think alienating the new comers for the sake of some screwed up behaviour is nice, no problem.  But then sad to the promotion efforts of Funcom and the hard work of faithful loyalist alike Avery.  They put in efforts trying to keep the game floating.

Originally posted by ULQQKED

I tried the game again and it was about the same as last year for me. I hit a snag when two players from an 80 guild decided to block the Old Tartanis bridge to Kemi with their mounts. I said I would report them and they said "the GM's don't care" after an hour I got a GM response that said "there are work around"s so we won't do anything." I am done with this game for the last time.

Very stupid reply of the GM of course but you could have either crouched or jumped in the water and got up at the ladder just behind the travel npc....

But one moronic GM doesn't make the review bad (and I hope you werent provoking him BTW).

The blocking ability is kinda annoying but it really makes PvP more interesting.

Anyways I think you should report the GM, idiots like him shouldn't be a GM. Mail what happened to Funcom or post it on the official forum.

To be honest, I think the moron players have gotten a lot more lately in all games, even EQ2 who used to have an excellent community have been going downwards fast. I don't know why, people were generally a lot nicer and more helpful in all the games I played a year ago...

I'm sure they find your tears delicious. Congratulations for rewarding them for their asshattery in exactly the way that pleases them the most. Did you also send them the hate messages in game that please them so much? You need to learn how to deal with griefers and this isn't it. "Ban him he made me crai!" Isn't the purpose of customer service. They are there to deal with real issues not be tied up with this petty easily circumvented nonsense. If he seemed unsympathetic it's because you deserve no sympathy. You may fids that harsh but it's a cold cruel world. Learn to deal with it.

Originally posted by zymurgeist

I'm sure they find your tears delicious. Congratulations for rewarding them for their asshattery in exactly the way that pleases them the most. Did you also send them the hate messages in game that please them so much? You need to learn how to deal with griefers and this isn't it. "Ban him he made me crai!" Isn't the purpose of customer service. They are there to deal with real issues not be tied up with this petty easily circumvented nonsense. If he seemed unsympathetic it's because you deserve no sympathy. You may fids that harsh but it's a cold cruel world. Learn to deal with it.

Nope I asked them to move and they wouldn't  then told them I would report them.  They even asked why I was there for so long and I told them I was reporting them.  If it was a PvP server situation then it would have resolved it's self.   On a PvE server you don't have another option, and customer service said they could harass all they want and they wouldn't do anything.