Hi peeps, i was just wondering how Aion was doing since Alot more people are getting into the Beta now with pre-orders right?

Ok, "How is Aion Doing" Probobly isnt that specific,

so if you could in your own way, please quickly tell me your experiance in the Beta atm?

Bits you like, Bits you dont like, PvP, PvE, is it heavily instanced, Is it open world PvP 100% or does it have its safe zones blah blah, you get what im talking about right?

I know your probobly going to say "wtf just go google it, or read other posts here"

truth is i already have, and still cant quite grasp HOW the game is doing now in the views of the beta testers, and how they feel like the game is doing, its pro's and cons sort of speak.

Im not trying to hate on the game (if i did hate the game i wouldnt be posting this), or be its No.1 fanboy, its just hard to Filter through all the positive and negative with such byist opinions on the game itself or the developers.

So im asking you Beta Testers who truly have a sense about games, wether it is a grindfest / solo play, or group kind of game yano? Im asking someone with a sense about games someone in the Gray zone of this game could give me their opinions would be great!

This is probobly a pointless thread, but hopefully from you guys actually playing the game will help me determine if i pre-order the game or not, or just wait untill public release in sept is it?

Thanks !

Cons: The version we're testing is still 1.0

Pros: The pvp is already awesome in 1.0

Originally posted by Ephimero

Cons: The version we're testing is still 1.0

Pros: The pvp is already awesome in 1.0

How is the PvP being motivated in-game?

Eg, war, daoc fortress raids or is it just heavily populated open pvp ?

PvP is a main aspect for me in MMO's

Originally posted by jonezi92

Hi peeps, i was just wondering how Aion was doing since Alot more people are getting into the Beta now with pre-orders right?

 

Ok, "How is Aion Doing" Probobly isnt that specific,

so if you could in your own way, please quickly tell me your experiance in the Beta atm?

Bits you like, Bits you dont like, PvP, PvE, is it heavily instanced, Is it open world PvP 100% or does it have its safe zones blah blah, you get what im talking about right?

 

I know your probobly going to say "wtf just go google it, or read other posts here"

truth is i already have, and still cant quite grasp HOW the game is doing now in the views of the beta testers, and how they feel like the game is doing, its pro's and cons sort of speak.

Im not trying to hate on the game (if i did hate the game i wouldnt be posting this), or be its No.1 fanboy, its just hard to Filter through all the positive and negative with such byist opinions on the game itself or the developers.

So im asking you Beta Testers who truly have a sense about games, wether it is a grindfest / solo play, or group kind of game yano? Im asking someone with a sense about games someone in the Gray zone of this game could give me their opinions would be great!

This is probobly a pointless thread, but hopefully from you guys actually playing the game will help me determine if i pre-order the game or not, or just wait untill public release in sept is it?

 

Thanks !

 

there are a lot of better game for cheaper price

its a fair game but its too expensive for what you get 

lot of f2p game are at least = to aion 

free realm as already 5 million player it summer lol wow is still a the best 

rom is very good etc

aion in my view is like this

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

your better off playing ddo when it gets f2p

Originally posted by drbaltazar

Originally posted by jonezi92

Hi peeps, i was just wondering how Aion was doing since Alot more people are getting into the Beta now with pre-orders right?

 

Ok, "How is Aion Doing" Probobly isnt that specific,

so if you could in your own way, please quickly tell me your experiance in the Beta atm?

Bits you like, Bits you dont like, PvP, PvE, is it heavily instanced, Is it open world PvP 100% or does it have its safe zones blah blah, you get what im talking about right?

 

I know your probobly going to say "wtf just go google it, or read other posts here"

truth is i already have, and still cant quite grasp HOW the game is doing now in the views of the beta testers, and how they feel like the game is doing, its pro's and cons sort of speak.

Im not trying to hate on the game (if i did hate the game i wouldnt be posting this), or be its No.1 fanboy, its just hard to Filter through all the positive and negative with such byist opinions on the game itself or the developers.

So im asking you Beta Testers who truly have a sense about games, wether it is a grindfest / solo play, or group kind of game yano? Im asking someone with a sense about games someone in the Gray zone of this game could give me their opinions would be great!

This is probobly a pointless thread, but hopefully from you guys actually playing the game will help me determine if i pre-order the game or not, or just wait untill public release in sept is it?

 

Thanks !

 

there are a lot of better game for cheaper price

its a fair game but its too expensive for what you get 

lot of f2p game are at least = to aion 

free realm as already 5 million player it summer lol wow is still a the best 

rom is very good etc

aion in my view is like this

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

your better off playing ddo when it gets f2p

Already tried DDO Trial, wasnt my cup of tea really,

Originally posted by jonezi92

Originally posted by Ephimero

Cons: The version we're testing is still 1.0

Pros: The pvp is already awesome in 1.0

 

How is the PvP being motivated in-game?

Eg, war, daoc fortress raids or is it just heavily populated open pvp ?

PvP is a main aspect for me in MMO's

If you enjoy PvP you will like Aion. It all open world pvp after lvl 20. The Abyss which can be entered when you hit lvl 25 is a pure open PvP zone where factions fight over fortress (which give many bonuses), and world bosses. Its more like Doac on crack if you get my drift. This all happens on a flawless game engine, where there are no player cap on the PvP battles - this is important if you unfortunately played WAR :(

 Lot of f2p games = to aion? are you crazy..you must havent played past 25 the pvp alone will S*** on ROM or DDO...Aion is worth 15 a month just for its PVP alone

I am too tired and sleepy to explain, just play it.  If you hate it, i'll buy your copy off you and mail it to my friend.

I liked it and i am a pretty casual friendly pvp+ pve player, but personally at this moment i am so tired i am not even typing with correclty grammar spelling or punchtuations.

as long as you give it a fair chance and play to 25+ you will at least have a above average game depend on your preference, i won't say aion is the best, but it sure is no where near being the worst.

and that person that said aion = f2p game, i completely do not agree with you but i respect your opinion on your gaming preference

goodnight

there are a lot of better game for cheaper price

its a fair game but its too expensive for what you get 

lot of f2p game are at least = to aion 

free realm as already 5 million player it summer lol wow is still a the best 

rom is very good etc

aion in my view is like this

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

your better off playing ddo when it gets f2p

Another f2p warrior eh?  You guys are dragging down the entirety of the MMO genre.

Anyway, the PvP is realm vs realm.  From 1-20 there is basically no PvP outside of duels.  At 20 you start heading into zones where "rifts" open.  Rifts basically are gateways that allow players from the opposing faction to raid your faction's "PvE" areas.  There is almost always a rift open somewhere, although the presence of a rift is easily identifiable. This, in my opinion, solidifies this as a PvP game.  After level 20 you really are never truly safe from the PvP aspect of the game if you want to continue leveling up.

At 25 you have access to a huge area called "The Abyss".  It's a huge, open world PvPvE zone that both faction have access to.  This basically means that the combat is between two players faction, the Elyos and the Asmodians... as well as an NPC faction that adds a random element to the gameplay (and acts as a balancing factor).  The Abyss mobs/quests grant more experience and are generally weaker than like level mobs in "PvE" zones.  The idea being to reward players w/ participating in an open PvP zone.  Also, both PvP and PvE inside the Abyss grant Abyss points(AP)... which are used to buy the best PvP gear and items in the game.  The more AP you have, the higher your rank.  The higher your rank, the more AP points your worth to your enemy.  When you die, you lose AP points(the higher your rank the more you lose).  This creates a sort of player skill cap where a person balances out (your earning/losing).  Some of the best Abyss items require lots of AP, so only good/smart players who can obtain higher amounts of AP will be able to afford them.  

In the Abyss there are also Fortresses and Relics each side fights for control over.  

Relics have unique powers that, when used, affect all players of the controlling sides faction.  These powers are impressive/useful enough that they can really play a factor in the outcome of battles, so its in the interest of both factions to control as many relics as possible.  

Fortresses have time-span's where they are seizable.  You do this by laying siege to the fortress, breaching the outer door, and then killing a raid type boss that lies within the fortresses interior.    There are also forcefield type generators in fortresses that prevent air raids, these are important to defenders because it creates a choke-point of defense.  By taking out the shield generator the fortress can be breached from the air as well, which causes it to be intensely difficult to defend.  Successful fortress sieges award medals, which are used to buy some of the best PvP Abyss gear.  Owning a fortress grants the capturing Legion(guild) a large monetary value which basically simulates "taxes", as well as provides your faction with a local trading/crafting(? i think) hub deep inside the Abyss.  This is important because the game's fast travel system can be a real drain on your bank account.  The reward system is good enough to drive the siege system continuously, which is a great thing.

 As for the level grind, its not too bad.  Worse than some games, better than others.  There are enough quests in the newer versions to take you to cap w/ a minimal amount of grinding.  The Abyss + Rifts break up the grind pretty well by adding a nice random PvP encounters to the game.  I'm not terribly big on the PvE leveling grind "fun factor", as I've never played an MMO where I actually found that particularly interesting... but its not horrible.  Individual fights move a little slower than I'd like (ie the time it takes to take down a single mob, not the speed of gameplay).  I find levels 1-25 to be pretty painful, not because they take a long time, but because its all PvE and your characters skill-sets aren't fleshed out enough to really "enjoy" them yet.  That's just my opinion though.

The real grind is going to be from getting AP and siege medals to buy Abyss gear, or collecting enough materials to make the best crafted armor(which is really good).  Also the money/item grind to enchant all your stuff to +10 and properly socket it with the appropriate gems is going to take forever as well.  However, if you -enjoy- the PvP, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal.  It will definitely keep PvPers busy for along time.

PvP combat is fast and interesting, but not so fast that the game is frustrating.  Movement and kiting are encouraged and rewarded, so its not the slug it out non-movement type of PvP that a lot of asian game's are.  Arial combat adds another level of strategy to the game, although melee is somewhat at a disadvantage in this aspect. Heavy consumable usage rewards the prepared, which may or may not be a good thing depending on the type of gamer you are.  The combo system requires the player to make unique choices based on the situation that can largely effect the outcome.  Class balance is pretty solid, better than most games.  And the game touches a nice balance between actual player skill and gear affecting the outcome.

I don't have much opinion about the PvE raids or dungeons.  I think they are a weaker part of the game on the whole, but NCSoft seems to be pushing more PvE content into the game.  Some of them combine PvP elements into them, and some of them combine performance based rewards that seem pretty interesting (ie the faster you clear the dungeon the better loot).  But I haven't actually got to play w/ any of that stuff so I can't tell you how well its really done.

As for the preorder, I'd recommend it.  You can try out the game in the beta tests and see if you like it.  if you don't, just cancel your preorder.  You also get a 3-day headstart on leveling (being ahead of the leveling pack will be a boon in an open PvP environment like the Abyss), and if you preorder the collectors edition you get a couple nice items... most notable a unique set of level 30 wings that will end up saving you a bunch of gold as you won't have to spend a ton on the level 30 ones you buy in-game(kinda like getting a free epic mount in wow).

Wtf go google it

Originally posted by comerb

there are a lot of better game for cheaper price

its a fair game but its too expensive for what you get 

lot of f2p game are at least = to aion 

free realm as already 5 million player it summer lol wow is still a the best 

rom is very good etc

aion in my view is like this

TOO LITTLE TOO LATE

your better off playing ddo when it gets f2p

 

Another f2p warrior eh?  You guys are dragging down the entirety of the MMO genre.

 

Anyway, the PvP is realm vs realm.  From 1-20 there is basically no PvP outside of duels.  At 20 you start heading into zones where "rifts" open.  Rifts basically are gateways that allow players from the opposing faction to raid your faction's "PvE" areas.  There is almost always a rift open somewhere, although the presence of a rift is easily identifiable. This, in my opinion, solidifies this as a PvP game.  After level 20 you really are never truly safe from the PvP aspect of the game if you want to continue leveling up.

 

At 25 you have access to a huge area called "The Abyss".  It's a huge, open world PvPvE zone that both faction have access to.  This basically means that the combat is between two players faction, the Elyos and the Asmodians... as well as an NPC faction that adds a random element to the gameplay (and acts as a balancing factor).  The Abyss mobs/quests grant more experience and are generally weaker than like level mobs in "PvE" zones.  The idea being to reward players w/ participating in an open PvP zone.  Also, both PvP and PvE inside the Abyss grant Abyss points(AP)... which are used to buy the best PvP gear and items in the game.  The more AP you high, the higher your rank.  The higher your rank, the more AP points your worth to your enemy.  When you die, you lose AP points(the higher your rank the more you lose).  This creates a sort of player skill cap where a person balanced out (your earning/losing).  Some of the best Abyss items require lots of AP, so only good/smart players who can obtain higher amounts of AP will be able to afford them.  

In the Abyss there are also Fortresses and Relics each side fights for control over.  

Relics have unique powers that, when used, affect all players of the controlling sides faction.  These powers are impressive enough that they can really play a factor in the outcomes of battles, so its in the interest of both factions to control as many relics as possible.  

Fortresses have time-span's where they are seizable.  You do this by laying siege to the fortress, breaching the outer door, and then killing a raid type boss that lies within the fortresses interior.    There are also forcefield type generators in fortresses that prevent air raids, these are important to defenders because it creates a choke-point of defense.  By taking out the shield generator the fortress can be breached from the air as well, which causes it to be intensely difficult to defend.  Successful fortress sieges award medals, which are used to buy some of the best PvP Abyss gear.  Owning a fortress grants the capturing Legion(guild) a large monetary value which basically simulates "taxes", as well as provides your faction with a local trading/crafting(? i think) hub deep inside the Abyss.  The reward system is good enough to drive the siege system continuously, which is a great thing.

 As for the level grind, its not too bad.  Worse than some games, better than others.  The Abyss + Rifts break up the grind pretty well by adding a nice random PvP encounters to the game.  I'm not terribly big on the PvE leveling grind "fun factor", as I've never played an MMO where I actually found that particularly interesting... but its not horrible.  Individual fights move a little slower than I'd like (ie the time it takes to take down a single mob, not the speed of gameplay).  I find levels 1-25 to be pretty painful, not because they take a long time, but because its all PvE and your characters skill-sets aren't fleshed out enough to really "enjoy" them yet.  That's just my opinion though.

The real grind is going to be from getting AP and siege medals to buy Abyss gear, or collecting enough materials to make the best crafted armor(which is really good).  Also the money/item grind to enchant all your stuff to +10 and properly socket it with the appropriate gems is going to take forever as well.  However, if you -enjoy- the PvP, it really shouldn't be that big of a deal.  It will definitely keep PvPers busy for along time.

I don't have much opinion about the PvE raids or dungeons.  I think they are a weaker part of the game on the whole, but NCSoft seems to be pushing more PvE content into the game.  Some of them combine PvP elements into them, and some of them combine performance based rewards that seem pretty interesting (ie the faster you clear the dungeon the better loot).  But I haven't actually got to play w/ any of that stuff so I can't tell you how well its really done.

As for the preorder, I'd recommend it.  You can try out the game in the beta tests and see if you like it.  if you don't, just cancel your preorder.  You also get a 3-day headstart on leveling (being ahead of the leveling pack will be a boon in an open PvP environment like the Abyss), and if you preorder the collectors addition you get a couple nice items... most noticably a unique set of level 30 wings that will end up saving you a bunch of gold as you won't have to spend a ton on the level 30 ones you buy in-game(kinda like getting a free epic mount in wow).

yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

If you can't afford a $50 game and $15 a month for what equates to hundreds to thousands of hours of entertainment, you shouldn't be playing games in the first place.  You need to get a real job.

If I go out and see just one movie at the theatre a month, it costs me more than it does to play this game +20 hours a week.  Playing MMOs saves me money.

Sure, go play Free Realm or some other terrible f2p MMO.  You'll be bored with it in a few weeks and spending your money to entertain yourself in some other way.

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yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

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Just buy a digital copy, $50. If you have to cut back then that is too bad, but most of us don't. The game is well worth the money and certainly isn't bad because you can't afford to buy anything. Stick with your f2p games.

Originally posted by comerb

yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

 

If you can't afford a $50 game and $15 a month for what equates to hundreds to thousands of hours of entertainment, you shouldn't be playing games in the first place.  You need to get a real job.

If I go out and see just one movie at the theatre a month, it costs me more than it does to play this game +20 hours a week.  Playing MMOs saves me money.

Sure, go play Free Realm or some other terrible f2p MMO.  You'll be bored with it in a few weeks and spending your money to entertain yourself in some other way.

i don't think money is the real problem considering he said to play wow, he's just trolling. and no way has he played any of those f2p games he mentioned or Aion for that matter,because they're utter crap and don't come close to Aion.

Originally posted by drbaltazar

yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

MMOs are among some of the cheapest forms of entertainment. Where else can you get 30 days of gameplay for $15? Sure, there is some intial money put up front, but even after just 5 months, thats still just 30 days of gameplay for $25 ($15 monthly fee + ($50/10months = $10)

Originally posted by abyss610

Originally posted by comerb

yep pre-order is worth it ,just dont buy the game its just plain too expensive for what you get if you got wow stick to that instead

if not play free realm or the f2p of your choice

i dont say its a bad game i say its too expensive for what you get

people tend to ignore the fact that you got to buy this game im sorry but if i have to go to ebgame i need gas etc+i have to buy the game then the hourly or monthly to play it ,i better have very good game for my money

and in that view of quality vs price

i dont feel player would get their moneys worth

might be im the only one who has to cut expense at home in this freaking recession

but aion isnt gona get my money ,its just isnt worth it

 

If you can't afford a $50 game and $15 a month for what equates to hundreds to thousands of hours of entertainment, you shouldn't be playing games in the first place.  You need to get a real job.

If I go out and see just one movie at the theatre a month, it costs me more than it does to play this game +20 hours a week.  Playing MMOs saves me money.

Sure, go play Free Realm or some other terrible f2p MMO.  You'll be bored with it in a few weeks and spending your money to entertain yourself in some other way.

 

i don't think money is the real problem considering he said to play wow, he's just trolling. and no way has he played any of those f2p games he mentioned or Aion for that matter,because they're utter crap and don't come close to Aion.

i dont play wow ,but wow is better if you already have it
 

 What the heck is with the guy saying $50 is too expensive?

$50 = game + 30 days

in this first month if you play 30 hours in the whole month (that gives a ridiculous average of 1hour per day) you will be getting entertainment for $1,66 per hour, making it already one of the cheapest means of entertainment out there. Then the monthly fee is $15, play it 30 hours per month and that's an incredible $0,50 per hour.

Because you don't spend a single cent in F2P it doesn't mean its like that, you're just cannon fodder for those that spend way more than $15 a month, because if you want to be good ("cool" is also in the definition of good for many, so yes even vanity items are included in the player's wishes) in these item mall MT games you will have to spend way more than $15 a month. And cut that "optional" bs, if it was so optional, these games wouldn't be off there making profit from people spending $100 a month.

I want my entertainment for a fixed price, and Aion provides me it along with many other top-quality MMOs such as WoW (deny it as much as you want, it's true) and EVE.

Aion is nothing like a f2p. Its a solid game and fun. Does is innovate or do anything mindblowing new? No

Originally posted by drbaltazar

i dont play wow ,but wow is better if you already have it
 

How does that work?

If by already owning a game means it is better, I suppose I already own all the best games in the world.  Especially when I don't play them.

Originally posted by Ephimero

Cons: The version we're testing is still 1.2

Pros: The pvp is already awesome in 1.2

Pros: We will be launching with 1.5

Fixed it for you!