Originally posted by Axxar

Originally posted by Raztor

It's basically the old honour rank system that WoW used and that's the biggest turn off about this game for me.

Can you provide a source for this? The original WoW honour system is probably the worst and unhealthiest PvP advancement system ever conceived. I find it hard to believe anyone would copy it. They completely revised that system for good reason.

It's not like the old WoW based ranking system.  That system didn't reward the skill of the player, it rewarded the time the player dedicated to the game.  In Aion, you don't lose lose rank/points by some ridiculous degradation system.. you lose rank/points by getting killed.  The better you are, the more quickly you'll be able to obtain and retain Abyss Points.  Also, the more points you have, the harder it becomes to retain those points.

Of course, a good player with 4 hours a  day to dedicate to gaming will get gear twice as fast as a like skilled-player with 2 hours a day.  

The WoW system was also a plateau system, meaning you had to obtain a particular rank to qualify for a tier of gear.  So once you made rank 14 (or whatever) your gear levels skyrocketed as you obtained that gear in bunches.  In Aion, you are constantly working towards individual pieces, making your power scale up much more gradually, and giving you much easier goals to work towards.

Also, the closer you get to gear cap... the less difference the gear makes.  While going from green/blue regular gear to getting a full set of +5 Abyss gear might take 6 months(or more), getting a full set of +10 Abyss gear will take significantly longer but the power scaling falls off dramatically.

Well your going to find out is more luck than anything else. Just wait till you get in your 40's.. you would THINK skill, gear would come in to play.. Aion is so much like a Free2play game. NCSoft put more time into the TOON looks than anything else. Dont get me wrong PVP is fun but in Aion any 10y can do it.. it WAY WAY to simple..

Originally posted by comerb

It's not like the old WoW based ranking system.

Thank goodness.

Originally posted by Zeblade

Well your going to find out is more luck than anything else. Just wait till you get in your 40's.. you would THINK skill, gear would come in to play.. Aion is so much like a Free2play game. NCSoft put more time into the TOON looks than anything else. Dont get me wrong PVP is fun but in Aion any 10y can do it.. it WAY WAY to simple..

Wow... just wow. No, 10 yr olds can't pvp, sure they can mash buttons and try but... thats such a troll post.

Skill is a huge factor in PvP because tactics on how your formation is and being able to go into a fight with the right strategy is huge. Go troll somewhere else.

I just want ask someone who think if this game if skill or gear base. I mean you dont have to compare this to WOW.

Anyway this is what i thought about MMO. First i think every MMO require some skill to play, no matter in duel, group, raid, siege, etc... So basically skill can earn from experience so the more you play on your class, the more you know about.

Regarding if AION is skill or gear base type of game. I already got a feeling it is more about gear base than skill. Why then you have to think about the game's system of crafting, PVP, PVE.

Isn't you can only master ONE profession even you can learn every profession. Which you can craft Lv45+ gear.. (correct me if i'm wrong)

Secondly you can earn those Abyss point by kill your opposite race or their npc guard. So you can earn ranking, and trade your Abyss point for gears.

My final thought: i think this system is okay for those ppl who dont mind play a mmo for 2-3yr+. That is the purpose of MMO, to waste time.

Originally posted by Aznmask

I just want ask someone who think if this game if skill or gear base. I mean you dont have to compare this to WOW.

Anyway this is what i thought about MMO. First i think every MMO require some skill to play, no matter in duel, group, raid, siege, etc... So basically skill can earn from experience so the more you play on your class, the more you know about.

Regarding if AION is skill or gear base type of game. I already got a feeling it is more about gear base than skill. Why then you have to think about the game's system of crafting, PVP, PVE.

This game is about both gear and skill.  Gear is about customization while playing skill is how you use those .. umm skills.

Isn't you can only master ONE profession even you can learn every profession. Which you can craft Lv45+ gear.. (correct me if i'm wrong)

Yes you can only get master level on one profession per character meaning Tier 5 of a profession and capping it, all other craft can still be raised to expert level which is Tier 4 and capping it.  Not sure about the level of equipment.

Secondly you can earn those Abyss point by kill your opposite race or their npc guard. So you can earn ranking, and trade your Abyss point for gears.

This part feels more like a statement, but yeah.  I think there are more places to earn Abyss point than those, and also PvP activities give exp too from what a Korean player said.  If the player is not 10+ level under you or something.

My final thought: i think this system is okay for those ppl who dont mind play a mmo for 2-3yr+. That is the purpose of MMO, to waste time.

That is pretty much a given.

Originally posted by Zeblade

Well your going to find out is more luck than anything else. Just wait till you get in your 40's.. you would THINK skill, gear would come in to play.. Aion is so much like a Free2play game. NCSoft put more time into the TOON looks than anything else. Dont get me wrong PVP is fun but in Aion any 10y can do it.. it WAY WAY to simple..

Yes, yes a 10 yr old can play it, its a painted over FTP and Gameguard is the devil. That all you got, or is there more nuggets of wisdom that my quick search didnt find? Have you played any version of this game?