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7/22/09 11:52:29 PM#41
Originally posted by markyturnip
Ahhh I see someone else has been to the Tijauana red light district on a Tuesday! |
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7/23/09 1:56:31 AM#42
Originally posted by markyturnip Why fail? Maybe some people thing it's worth throwing some money in the pot, in order to support a small developer to make the game they want. I can think of many worse ways to spend money. And yet, all this "funding the indie dev" talk and game like Saga of Ryzom, a brilliant peice of gaming, goes on under funded and under valued by the same people who want something "different" I think this is all the biggest bullshit , no one has actually ordered anything, and it is a build up to an epic sack of Dark and Light. Think the people outside of the hype circle that did pay for something, you willsee you will be continously pushed back from actually getting into the game world. |
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patrikd23
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Joined: 10/17/04
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. |
7/23/09 2:03:29 AM#43
Originally posted by solareus And yet, all this "funding the indie dev" talk and game like Saga of Ryzom, a brilliant peice of gaming, goes on under funded and under valued by the same people who want something "different" I think this is all the biggest bullshit , no one has actually ordered anything, and it is a build up to an epic sack of Dark and Light. Think the people outside of the hype circle that did pay for something, you willsee you will be continously pushed back from actually getting into the game world.
Well I trust Swedish developers alot more than american to be honest, when it comes to indie companies. Just look at game making history and you will see why. And Mortal Online is make from Swedish company and is a very independent one. You will see. Atleast they say what is really up rather than dancing around subjects with fancy words to make smokescreen to hide the truth. |
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7/23/09 2:04:34 AM#44
Originally posted by solareus And yet, all this "funding the indie dev" talk and game like Saga of Ryzom, a brilliant peice of gaming, goes on under funded and under valued by the same people who want something "different" I think this is all the biggest bullshit , no one has actually ordered anything, and it is a build up to an epic sack of Dark and Light. Think the people outside of the hype circle that did pay for something, you willsee you will be continously pushed back from actually getting into the game world. i've been in the gameworld, your arguement is fail. |
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patrikd23
Novice Member
Joined: 10/17/04
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. |
7/23/09 2:07:58 AM#45
Originally posted by khameleon Who cares? We that want to play MO payed for the game not the testing, the testing allows us input. We paid for the final release. If its a pre beta build so be it, I would rather have input from that stage than a beta that is soon to release. AoC is a perfect example, the beta was fairly polished and the release was about the same, a polished beta.
I hope you have patience, this game will not be at AOC's launch position (75% done) for at least a year or two lol
Right now 2009 July-Dec. will be Alpha and maybe early beta testing once they get the basics running. 2010 will be Closed Beta for at least 6 months followed by stress testing and bigger Closed/Open beta 2011 game shoudl be ready for a public release that would not embarrass the Devs.
If the game gets to that point, congrats, you payed 2 years in advance for a game. By then I will have played Aion, DDO, FFXIV, Star Wars and who knows how many other games.
Whole point is, why are you funding a company to make a game? They should not be asking for any money in alpha.
Who says you cant play more than one game ? I am funding a game company I believe in, and for the sake of the indie gaming companies to come out of the closets and show themselfs and their ideas. And also to get rid of the wowclones and the microtransaction game that are flooding the market as we speak. |
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7/23/09 2:17:11 AM#46
Originally posted by patrikd23 And yet, all this "funding the indie dev" talk and game like Saga of Ryzom, a brilliant peice of gaming, goes on under funded and under valued by the same people who want something "different" I think this is all the biggest bullshit , no one has actually ordered anything, and it is a build up to an epic sack of Dark and Light. Think the people outside of the hype circle that did pay for something, you willsee you will be continously pushed back from actually getting into the game world.
Well I trust Swedish developers alot more than american to be honest, when it comes to indie companies. Just look at game making history and you will see why. And Mortal Online is make from Swedish company and is a very independent one. You will see. Atleast they say what is really up rather than dancing around subjects with fancy words to make smokescreen to hide the truth. Ryzom is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed by the independent French studio Nevrax. The game launched in September 2004 under the name 'The Saga of Ryzom' and received little attention at the time. In August 2006, the name was simplified to 'Ryzom' for marketing purposes. Ryzom is labeled as Science-Fantasy by the creators due to storyline elements that are typically found in both science fiction and fantasy genres.
The More we boil these threads down, the more we clean away the complete hypocrital bull shit hype machine. |
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7/23/09 2:19:47 AM#47
Originally posted by solareus Ryzom is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) developed by the independent French studio Nevrax. The game launched in September 2004 under the name 'The Saga of Ryzom' and received little attention at the time. In August 2006, the name was simplified to 'Ryzom' for marketing purposes. Ryzom is labeled as Science-Fantasy by the creators due to storyline elements that are typically found in both science fiction and fantasy genres. He never pretended Ryzom was made in Sweden or wherever else, he didn't even talk about Ryzom in his post. Not only you are a poor troll with little skill but you also have reading comprehension problems. If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my ignore/block list. I recommend its use to everyone here - it helps you stay sane, avoid trolls, and by not answering to the troll's bait posts, avoid problems. |
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7/23/09 2:37:09 AM#48
If you aren't in the beta, you talk out of the wrong orifice and have no clue of what you talk about, and you are just trolling. If you are in the beta, you just broke the NDA, which is forbidden on this forum. Make your choice. If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my ignore/block list. I recommend its use to everyone here - it helps you stay sane, avoid trolls, and by not answering to the troll's bait posts, avoid problems. |
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7/23/09 2:45:29 AM#49
Originally posted by biplex
The misconception is on your side. It's forbidden to talk about what is in the beta here. There's no arguing possible, it is just forbidden. If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my ignore/block list. I recommend its use to everyone here - it helps you stay sane, avoid trolls, and by not answering to the troll's bait posts, avoid problems. |
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7/23/09 2:48:54 AM#50
Some people are so quick to add a reply without giving it any thought, like its Beta what do you expect and such, Well a game is Beta right up to the last 2 weeks when it Generaly goes Open beta, so to say its beta like that means something about a game and its not ready is pure rubbish, If a company offer a Pre order for a game and also offer beta access that means the game is close to being finished. So if that game is nowhere near ready then the company are pretty much robbing people of their money making them believe its near completetion with the pre order. Give it some thought before waffle.. If its not ready and not even close THEN money should Not be taken. I have read the site and even tho I did not buy the pre order it read to me at the time as it was near ready, if this it not true then its deception |
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7/23/09 2:54:24 AM#51
I see you you are happy with not supporting DarkFail.
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7/23/09 2:55:17 AM#52
Originally posted by peteski123
Read this thread: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/243599/PSA-to-the-buyers-THIS-is-what-you-will-get-starting-next-Monday.html The devs never robbed anyone. They never lied about what people were going to get for now, not even once. They have been more than perfectly clear about it. People still bought, perfectly knowing that. Unlike some scams that happened with past games, here there is no scam, there is no "robbing people". Everything was very clearly said, the devs warned block A beta would not be a walk in the park. If you still bought, it's only YOUR fault. If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my ignore/block list. I recommend its use to everyone here - it helps you stay sane, avoid trolls, and by not answering to the troll's bait posts, avoid problems. |
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7/23/09 2:56:03 AM#53
That's the case :)
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7/23/09 2:58:33 AM#54
Originally posted by biplex
Can you post your source where they mention that the game is near completion? There is a detailed schedule of things to be tested in the beta go look it up, uninformed people are uninformed.
Edit: doesnt matter how much you thread it your opinion that this is going to fail is as good as anyone else saying this will be a success, I dont really understand why people think that repeating the same thing in 3, 4 and 5 posts in a row will make them right lol.
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7/23/09 3:01:25 AM#55
im getting exactly what i expected.
if you read that link it will tell you what beta testers are to expect in this first phase. |
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7/23/09 3:02:30 AM#56
Originally posted by peteski123
Speak for yourself. They sure as hell should take mine. Why? Read this thread: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/244691/People-who-paid-for-this-in-advance-patrons-of-the-arts.html Also: they have been VERY CLEAR about what the beta is about at this time. Also: it is much to early to tell how this game will pan out in the coming months before launch we can only be hypothetical. I didn't pay to preview a beta, I payed for the game (whenever it's launch might be), the awesome concept behind it and to help make it happen and I' m really happy with that :-)
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7/23/09 3:03:19 AM#57
Originally posted by biplex
I'm not defending the game. I'm just saying it can not be a scam like you pretend, because unlike darkfall where the devs clearly lied about the content that wasn't in game even after release, here the devs didn't lie. If people were dumb enough to buy thinking they would play a finished game in beta despite all the warnings, it's their problem. If you wonder why I don't answer your posts, it's most likely because you are on my ignore/block list. I recommend its use to everyone here - it helps you stay sane, avoid trolls, and by not answering to the troll's bait posts, avoid problems. |
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7/23/09 3:08:01 AM#58
Originally posted by DarkPony
Speak for yourself. They sure as hell should take mine. Why? Read this thread: www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/244691/People-who-paid-for-this-in-advance-patrons-of-the-arts.html Also: they have been VERY CLEAR about what the beta is about at this time. Also: it is much to early to tell how this game will pan out in the coming months before launch we can only be hypothetical. I didn't pay to preview a beta, I payed for the game (whenever it's launch might be), the awesome concept behind it and to help make it happen and I' m really happy with that :-)
If people were too blindly hyped up to see that this beta was not the kind of beta big companies have given us in the last four years, which is a soft release to hype up the game while excusing for bugs by slamming the "beta" word on it, then its their fault when I read about pre-purchase it was very clear to my they werent soft releasing but actually doing proper localized testing of features, this was one of the reasons I also decided not to purchase and wait for a while, since I dont really have time atm to spend testing the game and there are many preparations (website, comms, etc...) that need doing for my guild.
Edit: Like Korrigan just said there is a massive difference when dev A says " we def have this in game, buy the game it will be the best game ever" and Dev B says: "we will try our best, some features might not be in because of server stress, feature A might end up this way or that way depending on how much we can implement in since we want feature B to be as solid as possible" there is a much bigger difference here and until they have deceived me or made something that will make me loose trust in them I genuinely believe they are being transparent even if half the core features were fully implemented and solid I would still bet on them to continue developing content over time.
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