Which MMOs are true open world MMOs? So far I can think of WoW and maybe LotRO. Definitely not a MMO like WAR where each zone is between a loading screen.

by "open world" do you mean just seamless zoning between areas or are you refering to games that actually feel like a virtual world?

Refering to zoning, WoW, Eve, lotro, vanguard, and several others are like that

If you meant feeling like an actual world then Eve online is really the only thing like that, WoW is close to it as well.

Vanguard.

Yeah Vanguard ,a massive world  ..everything you can see you can travel to

not sure how it is now but UO used to be open world like wow and eve seemless server lines (thogh somtimes they hicup) and best of all no linear path. 

WoW and open world, you're kidding right? :) L2 is open world (if you dont count few dungeons/instances), DF also, EVE

Istaria (aka Horizons) and Flyff are true open world.

WoW is not strictly open world as the major cities and different continents are in different zones.  However, the lag would have been horrible if all of these were all in the same open world.

Dark Age of Camelot uses a similar system to WoW for open world.

Star Quest Online, open galaxy with open worlds.

Originally posted by vasilcho

WoW and open world, you're kidding right? :) L2 is open world (if you dont count few dungeons/instances), DF also, EVE

I would not call Eve open world.  Zone into each starsystem, zone to dock.  Travel a long distance and it repeatedly fly zone fly zone, again and again and again.  Eve is worse than Everquest and EQII for slow travel and constant zoning.

Originally posted by Legato89

Which MMOs are true open world MMOs? So far I can think of WoW and maybe LotRO. Definitely not a MMO like WAR where each zone is between a loading screen.

LOTRO has a few instanced dungeons if I remember correctly. Asheron's Call is a little like that in that the dungeons are accessed via magic portals in the world. The overland world, though is huge, though, and it does not funnel you like LOTRO or AoC and the majority of the others. If you see the outline of a tower in the far distance (and you could see such things that would take you 5+ minutes to run to) you can run in a direct path to it. There might be a steep wall you would have to find your way around, but you pretty much knew there was a way to get to it.

You could truly spin around for a bit in circles, stop and then take off running and exploring in the direction you faced. You weren't "ushered" in 2-3  "paths" which is the common method of MMO making today.

UO, Eve and Darkfall.

And hopefully MO.

Originally posted by marcust

UO, Eve and Darkfall.

And hopefully MO.

Not sure if EvE counts (course, definition is everything). I don't think I could fly from Rens to Jita at (even if it took like 3 real days) without using a jumpgate and hitting a jumpgate is zoning (and thus not "open") just as much as the zoning in EQ or AoC.

Darkfall is a true open world.  It also has player justice and freedom built in.

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Darkfall is a true open world.  It also has player justice and freedom built in.

If there was a word for Darkfall it would be MMOFPS  not MMORPG.

Vanguard, Eve , Darkfail.

 Tha Matrix Online is the largest open world mmo OUT THERR. When MXO 2 drops in a few weeks shizz is gonna be evan bigger s0n. Neo be droppin bombs on that sweet rp ya smell me?

EVE is not an open world. Within a system sort of, but the reality is, it's just a warping to set points. All you ever do in EVE is warp to a finite amount of points in a system. Traveling is as others said.

warp - zone - warp - zone - warp - zone - warp ad nauseum. I love EVE's game mechanics but i think CCP screwed royally in making it a space ship MMO, i think they could have achieved everything had they made it a mechwarrior type and ported everything into mechwarrior style nad had an immersive world. Oh well.

Lineage 2 should take the cake for open world, they have some instances (dungeons) but the problem with open world is that if the game company sucks like NCbots, then the bots will overtake your open world whereas if it has numerous instances it's at the least better.

Yes, shameless I hate NCsoft for allowing numerous bots in their game +1. Completely shameful in an open world.

Cryomatrix

you all are leaving out the premier number one open world mmo....

star wars galaxies

unlike games like LOTR, even entering a house in Galaxies you wont see a loading screen.

I wouldnt call WoW a seamless open world either. Its a sad reflection on the genre when people look at WoW and consider it open. The game is divided up into zones with hard borders. Galaxies there arent these hard borders that divide zones up. Each planet is one giant world.

too bad galaxies developer sony decided 250k players wasnt enough and destroyed the game for the wow audience.

Originally posted by Tyranix

Originally posted by -Zeno-

Darkfall is a true open world.  It also has player justice and freedom built in.

If there was a word for Darkfall it would be MMOFPS  not MMORPG.

That's what makes it unique.  You cant auto target someone with a gun IRL.  It adds to the immersion of the game, and requires player twitch skills to be successful.  If you are not into PvP, you can also be a crafter/gatherer, or you can tackle some of the epic creatures in the game (like the black dragon in the middle of the world).  Darkfall dares to be diffrent.

Anarchy Online.