I am waiting for Windows 3.1 to become obsolete. And then it's go time!

I will stick with Vista until I absolutely need to "upgrade".

Originally posted by Slampig

I will stick with Vista until I absolutely need to "upgrade".

That is like keeping a dead cat because your used to its smell and don't want a new one >.>

I hate how VISTA is a super resource hog.....example:

Min reqs for Crysis:

XP:

2.8 Ghz CPU

1.0 Gig Ram

Vistacrap:

3.2 Ghz

1.5 Gb or more

No way in hell I'm buying this turkey. Personaly I feel Windows 7 is just a retinker of  Vista. Instead of fixing this complete dog turd of an OS with a 2nd service pack, they instead opted to rebrand it as a whole new operating system. Thereby screwing the customers who made the mistake of paying for Vista out of money TWICE!! I know that Bill Vegthe has been quoted as saying  "There are plenty of great things in there that make it (Windows  7) much more significant than a service pack," but I say bollocks.  Windows 7 is what Vista should have been in the first place. Maybe if they had decided to wait to release the craptastic Vista OS later when it was something to be proud of, instead of worrying about keeping their corporate boot to the throat of their competition, they wouldn't have embarrassed themselves with Vista in the first place. I say that Windows 7 is an unfair tax on Microsoft's on customers due to Microsoft's own lack of vision.

And before any one jumps in and declares I'm just a Microsoft hater and/or a Linux fan, My favorite operating systems are listed thusly.

Windows 3.1

Windows 98 SE

Windows XP Professional 32 bit

Windows XP Professional 64 bit

So there you have it. I'm a rabaid Microsoft fan. I just feel that they have made some seriously bad and foolish decisions with Vista, and they wrongly expect the customer to pay for them.

Originally posted by MisterZebub

No way in hell I'm buying this turkey. Personaly I feel Windows 7 is just a retinker of  Vista. Instead of fixing this complete dog turd of an OS with a 2nd service pack, they instead opted to rebrand it as a whole new operating system. Thereby screwing the customers who made the mistake of paying for Vista out of money TWICE!! I know that Bill Vegthe has been quoted as saying  "There are plenty of great things in there that make it (Windows  7) much more significant than a service pack," but I say bollocks.  Windows 7 is what Vista should have been in the first place. Maybe if they had decided to wait to release the craptastic Vista OS later when it was something to be proud of, instead of worrying about keeping their corporate boot to the throat of their competition, they wouldn't have embarrassed themselves with Vista in the first place. I say that Windows 7 is an unfair tax on Microsoft's on customers due to Microsoft's own lack of vision.

And before any one jumps in and declares I'm just a Microsoft hater and/or a Linux fan, My favorite operating systems are listed thusly.

Windows 3.1

Windows 98 SE

Windows XP Professional 32 bit

Windows XP Professional 64 bit

So there you have it. I'm a rabaid Microsoft fan. I just feel that they have made some seriously bad and foolish decisions with Vista, and they wrongly expect the customer to pay for them.

I fully support your argument and you also get a cookie.....this thread is ftw

I use Vista at the moment; that should probably answer the question.

On the off-chance that it doesn't, I already have Windows 7 on pre-order since it's selling for a piddly £75 on UK pre-order sites at the moment. I've tried it out and there's just no comparison with Vista; W7 widdles on it from a great height.

I already use win 7 and it works perfectly, so yes, if I bought software, I would buy win 7 at release.

I don't trust any new M$ operating system until at least the first service pack, every single one of them have been unstable, insecure and full of bugs until they have been in the wild for at least 6 months.  I didn't upgrade to XP, Vista or now 7 until post SP1, I will likely never do so again with any M$ product.

They've earned my distrust.

 I have been running Win 7 RC2 on my gaming comp and must say I am very impressed by it. Everything is that much faster, cleaner, and just works. The UI changes are outstanding, they really do make you more productive (for those times I am running Dreamweaver CS4, Adobe Premier, Photoshop 64bit, 3 browsers with 6+ tabs open in each, email client, and a game (duh, look at my system!). Even with all these on there is a HUGE difference between Vista Ultimate 64bit and Win 7 Ultimate 64bit. 

Originally posted by MisterZebub

And before any one jumps in and declares I'm just a Microsoft hater and/or a Linux fan, My favorite operating systems are listed thusly.

Windows 3.1

Windows 98 SE

So there you have it. I'm a rabaid Microsoft fan. I just feel that they have made some seriously bad and foolish decisions with Vista, and they wrongly expect the customer to pay for them.

ROFL....

Anyone who thought that Win98 was a good OS should be shot. Thats like saying Win ME was a great os.... BSoD anyone?

Originally posted by illanadan

Originally posted by MisterZebub

And before any one jumps in and declares I'm just a Microsoft hater and/or a Linux fan, My favorite operating systems are listed thusly.

Windows 3.1

Windows 98 SE

So there you have it. I'm a rabaid Microsoft fan. I just feel that they have made some seriously bad and foolish decisions with Vista, and they wrongly expect the customer to pay for them.

ROFL....

Anyone who thought that Win98 was a good OS should be shot. Thats like saying Win ME was a great os.... BSoD anyone?

Windows 98 SE ,  not its first incarnation. The first release of 98 blew chunks (Windows ME also sucked rocks, and much like Vista was shipped unfinished and unworthy of owning solely to keep a current Microsoft product in the market). SE was pretty damn rock solid. So much so that when XP came out most of the computer techs I worked with didn't want to adopt it.  As to your comment of "BSoD anyone" I'm sure to are referring to the hilarious video of Bill and co with egg on their faces while hyping the soon to be released 98. After the travesty of Windows 95 we felt they deserved it.

 No, I will not be buying Windows 7 at release.

But that is because I will be getting my copy for free from the place that I work :D

I pre-ordered mine at Microsoft.com to take advantage of the $49.00 price tag.  You can't really go wrong since it includes the 32bit and 64bit discs as well as having Windows XP built into the setup for XP compatability mode  :)  The upgrade disc also allows you to make a clean full install.

Originally posted by Vrazule

I pre-ordered mine at Microsoft.com to take advantage of the $49.00 price tag.  You can't really go wrong since it includes the 32bit and 64bit discs as well as having Windows XP built into the setup for XP compatability mode  :)  The upgrade disc also allows you to make a clean full install.

49USD, thats Home Premium right? The XP modus feature is only for Professional and above editions.

Hell yeah the first day i can get my hands on it i'll buy it. I've pretty bought every version of Windows on the first sale day. Vista which i love was no exception.

Originally posted by MisterZebub

Originally posted by illanadan

Originally posted by MisterZebub

And before any one jumps in and declares I'm just a Microsoft hater and/or a Linux fan, My favorite operating systems are listed thusly.

Windows 3.1

Windows 98 SE

So there you have it. I'm a rabaid Microsoft fan. I just feel that they have made some seriously bad and foolish decisions with Vista, and they wrongly expect the customer to pay for them.

ROFL....

Anyone who thought that Win98 was a good OS should be shot. Thats like saying Win ME was a great os.... BSoD anyone?

Windows 98 SE ,  not its first incarnation. The first release of 98 blew chunks (Windows ME also sucked rocks, and much like Vista was shipped unfinished and unworthy of owning solely to keep a current Microsoft product in the market). SE was pretty damn rock solid. So much so that when XP came out most of the computer techs I worked with didn't want to adopt it.  As to your comment of "BSoD anyone" I'm sure to are referring to the hilarious video of Bill and co with egg on their faces while hyping the soon to be released 98. After the travesty of Windows 95 we felt they deserved it.

Vista's early bad publicity was due to hardware manufactorers not writing drivers that worked. over 30% of BSoD's happening before SP1 was due to Nvidia's crap driver.

The reason why Win7 is such a huge success now is that drivers are available because it uses the same driver model as Vista. Vista took the flak for changing the driver model and forcing developers to rethink their software application so that admin privilages was not needed in order to use said software.

Windows 7 "only" builds on top of that, and refines it. 

Besides, the only reason why XP SP2 got decent was because Vista devs was pulled out of production to help combat the raising online malware threat. The security center for instance was ment as a Vista feature but was ported and included in XP SP2. This move caused Vista to miss it's deadline multible times (It was ment af a 2005 release initially)

So all the XP worshippers out there remember that Vista devs made it was it is today. Besides, Vista is rock solid and has been for almost two years now.

"Vista's early bad publicity was due to hardware manufactorers not writing drivers that worked. over 30% of BSoD's happening before SP1 was due to Nvidia's crap driver."

So all of Vista's problems were due to a third party dropping the ball?

Why then did Brad Brooks say  "We broke a lot of things. We know that, and we know it caused you a lot of pain. It got customers thinking, hey, is Windows Vista a generation we want to get invested in?"

Originally posted by TormDK

Originally posted by Vrazule

I pre-ordered mine at Microsoft.com to take advantage of the $49.00 price tag.  You can't really go wrong since it includes the 32bit and 64bit discs as well as having Windows XP built into the setup for XP compatability mode  :)  The upgrade disc also allows you to make a clean full install.

 

49USD, thats Home Premium right? The XP modus feature is only for Professional and above editions.

Yeah, you're right.  Thanks for pointing that out.  Changed my order to the Pro version, it's only about 30 bucks more at $79.  I'd much rather pay that and have it patched if necessary, than pay regular retail of 300 or so dollars.

Originally posted by MisterZebub

"Vista's early bad publicity was due to hardware manufactorers not writing drivers that worked. over 30% of BSoD's happening before SP1 was due to Nvidia's crap driver."

So all of Vista's problems were due to a thrid party dropping the ball?

Why then did Brad Brooks say  "We broke a lot of things. We know that, and we know it caused you a lot of pain. It got customers thinking, hey, is Windows Vista a generation we want to get invested in?"

Did I say *all* problems were caused by bad drivers from 3rd party developers? 

No, but it was the largest issue regular customers were facing at release. This made the OS look worse in the eyes of the public than it really was or even is. Especially if they bought a cheap laptop filled to the rim with bloatware installed by their OEM's. Normal people wouldn't know what to do, and would just be unhappy regarding their purchage.

You have to keep in mind that Microsoft's consumer sales are almost exclusively done by OEM's, to a very large degree the OEM's will make or break the release of an OS.

I remember XP as filled to the rim with problems while my own copy of Win98 ME was solid as a rock (Odd, I know) and Vista faced the same issue as changes was made which Win7 will reap the benifits from.

It'll be the same thing once Microsoft desides to kill 32bit computering, which I'm hoping will happen on the OS after Win7 (Which will likely be released in 2014). Huge changes will always bring some pain and discomfort.

Personally I would like to have the Win 7 edition as an free update (or with a highly reduced price) for Vista owners. Cause its more like a updated/improved Vista then a whole new operation system....people that bought Vista in the last few years still have problems with it which will be fixed in Win 7.........:S