Originally posted by Agricola1

BC, nice try but that KAWWWWOOOSSSHH just wasn't good enough to convince me that those 2008 screenies (and that's what was typed on them) are 2009 screenies. Also you're telling me it took Khestral 3 weeks to post them also? I mean what was he doing? Standing aroung the drinks machine buying his "Anaqudade" whilst chatting with the baliffs? Standing at the coffee machine discussing recruiting interns into his downline? Or pretending he's not getting paid?

Just pixels on my screen? "Like a bug on a windshield"!

I have a tendancy to believe bctrainers over your speculation, I know for a fact bctrainers knows a lot more than he can actually say, NDA and everything, considering he has been a mod since the near beginning of the SGW project.  Why would I take your word over his?

Originally posted by yellowperil

Originally posted by Agricola1

BC, nice try but that KAWWWWOOOSSSHH just wasn't good enough to convince me that those 2008 screenies (and that's what was typed on them) are 2009 screenies. Also you're telling me it took Khestral 3 weeks to post them also? I mean what was he doing? Standing aroung the drinks machine buying his "Anaqudade" whilst chatting with the baliffs? Standing at the coffee machine discussing recruiting interns into his downline? Or pretending he's not getting paid?

Just pixels on my screen? "Like a bug on a windshield"!

I have a tendancy to believe bctrainers over your speculation, I know for a fact bctrainers knows a lot more than he can actually say, NDA and everything, considering he has been a mod since the near beginning of the SGW project.  Why would I take your word over his?

No need to take my word over his, but everyone who was in last years beta will tell you that those screenies were from early beta 2008 (they were even marked as 2008 screenies when first put up!). I'll take their word over that of a pair of guys working for a pyramid scheme scammer any day.

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Originally posted by yellowperil

I have a tendancy to believe bctrainers over your speculation, I know for a fact bctrainers knows a lot more than he can actually say, NDA and everything, considering he has been a mod since the near beginning of the SGW project.  Why would I take your word over his?

Well I have a tendency not to believe board moderators, and here’s why:

• They are volunteers who work remotely, some are many states away from the CME office.
• They are not involved in the day-to-day development hussle n’ bussle
• They only know what they are told, via board IM, e-mail and maybe the occasional telephone call

While I’m not disputing whether the screen shot is new or old, it just seems odd that they would take almost the exact same screen shot 4 months later.   The fact that they have to defend wether a screen shot is old or new should tell you something.

Anyway, with all the money/licensing problems, screen shots are the least of our worries now.
 

Originally posted by Mershu

Originally posted by yellowperil

I have a tendancy to believe bctrainers over your speculation, I know for a fact bctrainers knows a lot more than he can actually say, NDA and everything, considering he has been a mod since the near beginning of the SGW project.  Why would I take your word over his?

 

Well I have a tendency not to believe board moderators, and here’s why:

• They are volunteers who work remotely, some are many states away from the CME office.
• They are not involved in the day-to-day development hussle n’ bussle
• They only know what they are told, via board IM, e-mail and maybe the occasional telephone call

While I’m not disputing whether the screen shot is new or old, it just seems odd that they would take almost the exact same screen shot 4 months later.   The fact that they have to defend wether a screen shot is old or new should tell you something.

Anyway, with all the money/licensing problems, screen shots are the least of our worries now.
 

*past board moderator. :)

If you want to see just what lenghts Whiting will go to cover up his 4 year-old Scam and PONZI, Cheyenne Mountain Entertainment and his most recent MLM scam, MMOGULS, simply come to the  Maricopa County Superior Court SE in Mesa.

At 8:30am on July 23rd, in the Honorable Judge Teresa Sanders courtroom, SouthEast Facility 4A,  I will be appearing for an Initial  PreTrial  Conference. This all stems from multiple bogus police reports Whiting and his cronies have filed with the Mesa Police Department purporting I violated a Workplace Harrassment Injuction last January. A nInjunction, by the way, that was dismissed at Whiting's lawyers request BEFORE the hearing date. These allegations have  resulted in two " Felony 6" criminal charges filed against me by the County Prosecutors Office..  Because I do not believe I am Guilty of Anything and I did not take the initial Plea offer at my last hearing, which included  Unsupervised Probation terms that would might have inhibited my outing Whiting, his family, Gagon, his family, and a few close friends and cohorts of these scam artists, I now have to go through the system in hopes the Prosecutor will see things for what they are.

The crimes, puportedly answering TWO emails from the Corporate Counsel of CME, Mike Rafford and from the CEO, Tim Jenson, purportedly violated the Injuction..

That's right, we are all going to take the Maricopa County Superior Courts time over me purportedly "Harrassing" Gary Whiting and his employees because I, as an investor in CME and as a MMOGULS member won't simply kiss off my time and money and go away.

Whiting had been representing himself, ProPer, but he now has an attorney, his 5th since I met him last October.. Of course Whiting is paying his attorney out of the company, with SHAREHOLDERS/INVESTORS money.

I, on the other hand am paying attorney FEES, travel expenses to and from Mesa from Dallas where I live , not to mention the time and aggravation this BS has, is and will cost me.

AND WHY DO THIS???? 

Whiting sent me back my investment when I confronted him with the allegations of fraud, embezzlement and mismanagement after the 2008Christmas/2009New Year holiday break.

He took the downline I had created in MMOGULS and moved them all under someone who threw in $250K to MMOGULS, and has never paid me a DIME of commission that was due me from MMOGULS.. Of course, i have contacted ALL the downline I set up, they have withdrawn from MMOGULS, and all except 5 got their money back from the credit card processor..

NOW, I am standing here alone against Whiting..  I have investors,shareholders. former employees, vendors, contract labor persons, former Whiting friends, even some of his OWN RELATIVES  emailing me, calling me, texting me, all wanting a piece of this guys butt and wanting to know what they can do to get their money back. Some disillusioned investors STILL think the game can be completed, Whiting will take it public or whatever, and they will reap the investor benefits. You must be kidding.     Everyone wants to get this guy, and Gagon,  get their money back, put them in jail, BUT no one wants to FIGHT, toe to toe..

Well I will fight this clown until he goes to jail.. I can advise you, show you, and help youhelp you, collectively ,how we all can get some of our money back and put these guys away, never to harm people again.. This is habitual for Whiting and Gagon, just access Public records and you will see the two of them did the same thing in 1995-1996. Gagon took the fall and now 40Million shares of CME is his reward, PLUS all the money he has drained out  of CME and MMOGULS, along with Whiting.  Just go to Maricopa County public records and look up Case#   CV-95-02582. Read where Gagon was fined $700K and BANNED for life from during exactly what he has been doing with CME for 4 years. Then reserch him personally, you will find the State of Arizona has filed on $11Million in liens.against him.. ALL THIS, going on right under the noses of the Mesa Police, the ACC, the Arizona AG's office, the State of Arizona and Sherriff Joe.. And I am fighting two criminal charges, with mandatory jail time if convicted, for puportedly sending TWO EMAILS..

Well "I am your Huckleberry." . But I need your help..

You want the most bang for your buck, attempt to get some, if not all of your money back AND put these guys down.. YOU WANT JUSTICE????

Email me privately at bob@jaffapartners.com and/or bguenther44@cox.net or call me on my cell 214.587.3977 or my office number in Arizona  480.545.2200  Ext 2235, leave a private message, tell me how they have got to you, what your investment/loan  is and leave your contact information and I promise,  YOU WILL HEAR FROM ME....

Word of warning to any MMoguls/CME investors:

DO NOT join any organization/Trust/Group started by Bob Guenther, especially if he asks for a "donation" or "contribution". He has pulled this same scam several times, taking advantage of people who are already victims, by victimizing them even more.

Case in point, try Goggling ' ASDMBA'. This was a "Trust" that raised over $130K and did nothing to help members get their money back. The only ones who made money were Bob, his lawyer and his family.