Lets also not forget Black Prophecy, Reakktor's new space game that's currently in closed beta.

Yes, it will take somewhat of a hit, but not as much as most people think.  EVE is the sort of game that you can take breaks from, go check out other games, (keep paying your subs so your training continues) andd when you're ready you come back to.

I've done it several times in the past 2 years and still keep on playing.

Originally posted by Scyris

Considering eve is pretty much garbage with no real gameplay its not going to be hard to take people away from it. Jumpgate will actually have gameplay that takes skill, not simple auto-orbit auto attack, and have all your skills train while you go play with yerself.

Most EVE players will be glad to see you go, take the other whiners with you, please.  Thanks.

Originally posted by Scyris

Considering eve is pretty much garbage with no real gameplay its not going to be hard to take people away from it. Jumpgate will actually have gameplay that takes skill, not simple auto-orbit auto attack, and have all your skills train while you go play with yerself.

lol thats a funny post yo. I am looking forward to eve having some competition though from a game where I can actively train my skills. But i will miss not having to grind for XP so  i might not stick around with jumpgate long

I dont want to wait on a timer anymore either biut on same token i dont want to do crazy grinding for XP either. Hopefully jumpgate will try to balance this

I think it'll take a small hit.

To be honest though, the kinds of people who will really flock to those games aren't playing EvE anyway, or if they are they wouldn't stay long anyway.  CCP has always prioritized catering to the long-term, loyal playerbase over the fickle mainstream masses, and those are the kinds of players I really can't see going anywhere.

Depending on how well they manage to retain their players, or rather fail to, they may actually end up being good for EvE.

Personally, I have no interest in space-sim games.  Heck, I only play EvE because I like the game mechanics, the setting is kind of 'meh'.  Do plan on trying Aion when it comes out but I really doubt I'll quit EvE over it, this is the only MMO that's really held my interest for any significant length of time.

We will just have to wait and see what the game is actually like, if it can recreate Freelancer/Starlancer and other games like Free space 2 I can see it pulling in and retaining the communities from those games that never really got into EVE.

Personally I will try it but whether it will keep my sub is dependant on the pvp and the game balance and of course the important fun factor.

I think it's much more likely that CCP will be putting the pressure on JG than the other way around. If a game was going to hurt EVE, I think Dark Fall would have aleast made a dent and it didn't. I know for a fact may EVE players had been waiting for a sandbox on ground w/ a body and not a ship. Still, when it finally happened few if any EVE players left. Add to this the other big name releases that have had no effect (WAR & LOTR), and it think it's clear that JG has much more to fear from EVE than the other way around.

I really dont think the two will compete with each other. I'm fairly certain that the players that will mostly jump into jumpgate will be the ones that never could stand EVE. Then you might have the other players like Elsabolts that wanted PVE centric server to play on. I really think it will be these types that jump

You will also get the burned out EVE vets that already vet thats looking for their new 'fix'. They will most likely want something that resembles EVE somewhat

And ofc you will have the mainstream players that I think will go for jumpgate

Originally posted by PatchDay

I really dont think the two will compete with each other. I'm fairly certain that the players that will mostly jump into jumpgate will be the ones that never could stand EVE. Then you might have the other players like Elsabolts that wanted PVE centric server to play on. I really think it will be these types that jump

You will also get the burned out EVE vets that already vet thats looking for their new 'fix'. They will most likely want something that resembles EVE somewhat

And ofc you will have the mainstream players that I think will go for jumpgate

 

As I said before , there is a lot of vet players that I have spoken with that are either leaving when BP comes out or this. So many people are tired of EVE and the same powerblocks. So many people are tired of the same old blobbing back and forth. I have 3 accounts and all my characters are roughly 40m+ sp. I feel the burn, and am looking to finally get rid of my accounts and this ball and chain thats been holding on to me these past 5 years. The things that keep the same people comming back is the fact that they invested so much time and effort into something. Like a job, you don't throw away a promotion you worked for the past 5 years. Its not something easy to do.

The problem with EVE is the stagnate universe. Everyone is sitting around feeling it, and if you aint.. you aint in the know.

If JG has a hardcore server or something like that I will surely go that way. The only thing in JG that is holding me back is the fact that ships respawn.

Originally posted by Nasir64

Originally posted by PatchDay

I really dont think the two will compete with each other. I'm fairly certain that the players that will mostly jump into jumpgate will be the ones that never could stand EVE. Then you might have the other players like Elsabolts that wanted PVE centric server to play on. I really think it will be these types that jump

You will also get the burned out EVE vets that already vet thats looking for their new 'fix'. They will most likely want something that resembles EVE somewhat

And ofc you will have the mainstream players that I think will go for jumpgate

 

As I said before , there is a lot of vet players that I have spoken with that are either leaving when BP comes out or this. So many people are tired of EVE and the same powerblocks. So many people are tired of the same old blobbing back and forth. I have 3 accounts and all my characters are roughly 40m+ sp. I feel the burn, and am looking to finally get rid of my accounts and this ball and chain thats been holding on to me these past 5 years. The things that keep the same people comming back is the fact that they invested so much time and effort into something. Like a job, you don't throw away a promotion you worked for the past 5 years. Its not something easy to do.

The problem with EVE is the stagnate universe. Everyone is sitting around feeling it, and if you aint.. you aint in the know.

 

If JG has a hardcore server or something like that I will surely go that way. The only thing in JG that is holding me back is the fact that ships respawn.

People said the same about DF and look at it now. The quailty and depth of the EVE universe didn't happen overnight and these other Sci-Fi games will be very lucky if they ever see a small part of it.

My 40+ sp characters feel almost as fresh to me as they did when they had 4 mill. (almost but not quiet = ] ) Still, I train for capitals with alot more anticipation than I ever did frig or cruisers. This kind of depth of content took years to develop and these other games will be a pale shadow of EVE for a very long time. I don't know anyone ingame looking forward to any of these games. Everyone I know ingame plays console games when not playing EVE and has no plans to change.

I really don't think being in the know means sitting around waiting for some 2nd rate wannabe MMO. Pretty sure on that one :)

Just look at the forum sections for these games and feel the anticipation.

HAHAHA.... you who woted yes have to be joking or you are not playing EVE.

Jumpagate is WOW in space, it looks like crap it plays like crap, it feels like crap. It has no similarity to EvE so the people playing it wont be the same as those who are attracted to to EVE.

ITs like the people saying that World of Warcraft was going to take a blow when Darkfall came out. Reality check people Netdevil( the makers of jumpagate) are an indie company with little cash. Jumpgate is gona crash and burn, there is no way in hell that game is gona make it. Mark my words its gona be less in every aspect of its gameplay. It realy dosent have anything to offer, there are alot of games out there that are way better to spend your money on.

I predict that Jumpgate is gona go on life suport soon after its release and then it might even tank like Tabula Rasa..........

Jumpgate will never be able to take a significant amont of the buisness from EvE for two reasons. 1: Jumpgate is not as complex or hardcore as EVE, after playing beta, I realize that the intense strategic fights that most EvE corp players love will never make it in JG as it is far too fast to strategize. 2: CCP is the best MMO company of all time and it really listens to it's players; It has adopted this philosophy of looking at the players as shareholders in the game, making changes the community wants, Never taking the SOE "we know far better then you because we have people who run social tests" mentality.

Originally posted by Vendayn

Competition is good...means CCP will have an incentive to put out awesome expansions/patches

QFE,

if any it will be good for eve.

*guess*:

CCP will pull *ambulation* out of their hat  at that time i guess ;)

And te cerial girl can dress up  :P

Why JGE launch should have any impact on EVE?

JGE is FPS, not really targeting same playerbase. People who dislike EVE already quit or didn't subscribe and the rest that plays EVE for it's complexity won't be interested in.

Whether it has more than just a short term blip on EVE's population is going to completely depend on whether JG:E delivers a solid game or not.  I do know that many of the players I know are watching that, SW:TOR and a couple  other titles very closely as options to try out. 

 TBH though I am REALLY keeping an eye on the new MechWarrior that's in the works from Smith & Tinker and Piranha games:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html

Not going to be an MMO but very excited about it nontheless.

There's a lot of buzz about that mechwarrior game. Looks really good there. Good post above ^^^

I'm keeping my eye on JG:E as well and it depends on if the game is any fun. I love EVE but I like to play diff games I'm a rolling stone

Originally posted by Taram

Whether it has more than just a short term blip on EVE's population is going to completely depend on whether JG:E delivers a solid game or not.  I do know that many of the players I know are watching that, SW:TOR and a couple  other titles very closely as options to try out. 

 TBH though I am REALLY keeping an eye on the new MechWarrior that's in the works from Smith & Tinker and Piranha games:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html

Not going to be an MMO but very excited about it nontheless.

Makes me a sad panda to see such a great IP squandered.

I suspect EVE's subscriber base is actually going to keep on growing.

Its possible EvE to get hit but its more typicaly for WoW. Except that both are free space MMOs gameplay is compleatly different and is much more near to the one WoW have.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by Taram

Whether it has more than just a short term blip on EVE's population is going to completely depend on whether JG:E delivers a solid game or not.  I do know that many of the players I know are watching that, SW:TOR and a couple  other titles very closely as options to try out. 

 TBH though I am REALLY keeping an eye on the new MechWarrior that's in the works from Smith & Tinker and Piranha games:

http://pc.ign.com/articles/100/1002275p1.html

Not going to be an MMO but very excited about it nontheless.

 

Makes me a sad panda to see such a great IP squandered.

They've said they're rebooting the entire series.  Hopefully this first one will do very well, especially in the online aspect.  If so they may eventually do an MMO.  The only... *only* reason the original Multiplayer Battletech 3025 (MMO) was cancelled was because Microsoft held the rights and wouldn't allow EA to publish the game when the limited licence that Kesmai had been operating under expired.  EA had purchased Kesmai while they were working on MPBT3025 and the game was in final beta stages (literally weeks away from launch) when the license ran out and MS refused to allow EA/Kesmai renew it.

Now that MS no longer holds the license....who knows? :)  One can hope anyway.