Originally posted by UWNVME

Originally posted by andmiller

"Gaaahhhhhh!  I'll never play a game with RMT!!"

Get over it people.  If the game is great, we will play it.  Changes/modifications/incorporation of/etc regarding subscriptions and RMT is the future.  Whining about it or making empty threats about how you won't play the game is really pointless.

 

Thank you.

People always overreact when it comes to complaining about RMT. From what it sounds like, it's mostly aesthetic stuff that's being sold, it's not as if they're going to be selling free levelups and characters.

...and even if they do offer leveling, so what? It's allowing players to play the game in the way that they want to.  Most MMO players who weren't in on a game at launch have had to powerlevel a character to max level to join their friends anyhow.  They rush through the content, skipping as much of it as possible.  If people want to be max level, let them.  If people want to level, but want a little extra so they can keep up with their friends who are able to play more frequently, let them.  I see no harm in this.  Hardcore players most vocally criticize this business model. But as a hardcore player, it affects you the least because by your own admission you would never use those services.  So either play this game, or not.  The choice is yours.  Would RMT keep you from having fun while playing?  If so, you'll probably be giving up MMOs soon enough, and quite possibly gaming in general. 

The MT store is not allowing the players to play the game the way they want, it's allowing them to make money the way they want.

I dont mind cutting back on a few happy meals...ill just put it towards that FOTM item everyone bitches about...just to be that guy

Cryptic thanks you in advance for your sheep-like qualities. And trust me, you're already "that guy." It has nothing to do with high rolling in a video game, but still.

Originally posted by Irishoak

Cryptic thanks you in advance for your sheep-like qualities. And trust me, you're already "that guy." It has nothing to do with high rolling in a video game, but still.

im not going to try and waste my time with some moral video game crusade...its a game, 5 bucks here or there isnt going to break the bank.

im still running through with what the game has to offer, it looks fun.

people can complain all they want in these forums...doesnt change a thing :l

Yeah, discourse is hard and stuff. :(

 That's indeed true. Us forum posters are just a vocal minority, nothing more. Everyone is curious to see how far the casual gamers are willing to adopt this new form of subscription method, including future developers. 

In my opinion, that particular model is a sign of lesser quality. Or at least, history so far has shown that to be true. I had high hopes for this game, but alas, they seem more eager to target the impulsive buyer than the long term subscriber. Something that unfortunately bodes badly about the long term appeal of this "MMO".

its all about the jet boots man...i just want my jet boots

Are they similiar to the store now offered in coh/v?   If so very cool.   I bought everyone.  Was it a total of 3 in the 5 years its been out?   For a whole 10 bucks?    Who cares anyway.  The game is very playable without the pretty stuff but really, who cares.  I doubt there going to be selling levels or anything to make the game unbalanced verses the people who dont buy the stuff.    Unless your putting the millions of dollars into a project expecting the return on investment expected before your audience runs to check out the next similiar product...   Ah, go ahead, complain.  who cares.   I will get the game play it and if I dont like it, not.    Like someone said earlier.   Over reacting anyone?

Originally posted by Shreddi

Are they similiar to the store now offered in coh/v?   If so very cool.

The answer is no.

Unlike CoX which had it's few small, very cheap booster packs as an alternative to regular paid expansions and which gave players regular free content updates, CO appears set to charge players for regular paid expansions and have a proper shopping mall.

I didn't know that vanity items or fluff items as some say are " game changing". That is news to me!

Add me to the list of those no longer interested.

Now that this microtransaction system is confirmed, I wonder what part this is playing in their problems with Microsoft. How would a whole cryptic buck system work within the rigid point system already in place on the 260.

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I didn't know that vanity items or fluff items as some say are " game changing". That is news to me!

Oh come on SV.

You post all the promotional stuff and try to paint the game in a good light. That's fair enough. But now you're sinking to Cryptic's level by being dishonest. If that's the only way you can sell your product, how good can it really be?

Originally posted by green13

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I didn't know that vanity items or fluff items as some say are " game changing". That is news to me!

Oh come on SV.

You post all the promotional stuff and try to paint the game in a good light. That's fair enough. But now you're sinking to Cryptic's level by being dishonest. If that's the only way you can sell your product, how good can it really be?

Ya know  I am not 100% for microtransactions and if it were up to me I would just do the subscription model. I just think alot of what some people say are just blown way out of proportion. There is just no way possible that vanity items affect gameplay. The most important aspect of the game is gameplay so if nothing is affecting it by buying something because someone wants to look extra nice then so be it. I'll only be interested in extra character slots and more storage if that is available. Everything I do will be earned through gameplay. People just need to stop making a mountain out of a mole hill so to speak. 

everyone needs to look at it like this. im pretty sure everyone at some point in their life has gone to wal-mart or some similar store and gone through the checkout line. now when you get there theres all this random crap and candy there you can buy. so think of the MT as all that random stuff at the check out line when youre leaving the store. you can either buy the 4 pack of reeces peanut butter cups and a pepsi or coke like i do sometimes or you dont. i think thats a pretty civil way to look at cryptics model here.

Short response:
My wife and I will not be playing CO because of this decision.

Longer response:
My wife and I have been looking at this game and Aion because our son is old enough and started doing his own thing now and we want to get back into MMO's and have time to do so in the evenings. I know these are two different games, but we are looking for a new MMO community to be part of and are able to adapt to different MMO worlds, as we all are.

I see a lot of analogies, excuses and rationalizations here, but this business model simply shows that cryptic is greedy.  It is a poor decision and anyone who accepts it is paving the way for other companies to squeeze every ounce of money out of the customer base as it can.

Many companies are watching us! We need to stand firm and let these companies understand that we will pay a subscription fee and that is it. "Microtransaction" is just another greasy salesman term used on us to make milking us out of our cash easier to accept.

My wife and I are going to pre-order Aion even though we would enjoy CO much, much more. We both are disappointed by Cryptics decision but simply cannot accept caving in to company greed.

everything you can get in the mt you can get in game you just have to work for it. so whats the problem

Originally posted by Savvon

Short response:
My wife and I will not be playing CO because of this decision.

 

Longer response:
My wife and I have been looking at this game and Aion because our son is old enough and started doing his own thing now and we want to get back into MMO's and have time to do so in the evenings. I know these are two different games, but we are looking for a new MMO community to be part of and are able to adapt to different MMO worlds, as we all are.

 

I see a lot of analogies, excuses and rationalizations here, but this business model simply shows that cryptic is greedy.  It is a poor decision and anyone who accepts it is paving the way for other companies to squeeze every ounce of money out of the customer base as it can.

 

Many companies are watching us! We need to stand firm and let these companies understand that we will pay a subscription fee and that is it. "Microtransaction" is just another greasy salesman term used on us to make milking us out of our cash easier to accept.

 

My wife and I are going to pre-order Aion even though we would enjoy CO much, much more. We both are disappointed by Cryptics decision but simply cannot accept caving in to company greed.

 

 

 

 

your not force to buy anything everything you can buy you cang et in game i dont see what the big deal is. i would if the store items were items you cant get in game.

So if theres a quest you really dislike but you really want that item from the quest you can just buy it then. if theyw as greedy you wouldnt be able to get that items in game 2
 

Originally posted by green13

Originally posted by SaintViktor

I didn't know that vanity items or fluff items as some say are " game changing". That is news to me!

Oh come on SV.

You post all the promotional stuff and try to paint the game in a good light. That's fair enough. But now you're sinking to Cryptic's level by being dishonest. If that's the only way you can sell your product, how good can it really be?

dont matter all tiems in the store. you can get in game

i dont understand the big deal myself. you can get everything in game you can buy in the store. wheres the greed? the greed is in the players part, not cryptics. just because the store is there doesnt mean you have to use it.