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  User Deleted
7/14/09 4:54:09 PM#21

Which is why the U.S. needs to start blocking Chinese games. They throw their POS games over here with impunity, but then don't want our games there. I say we make it mutual.

  Loke666

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7/14/09 4:58:54 PM#22
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 

More like The9 sucked so Blizzard went with a better company so The9 got all pissy that Blizzard was their entire income.

 

Also, even if WoW does lose China they will still be king of the MMO mountain. WoW will still have twice as many subscribers as Aion and WoW will still make about $100 million a month.

So, if WoW is banned in China it wont be the massive blow that many people here think it would be.

Tue, but if the chinese players go over to Aion it will be larger...

There have already been several threads about this BTW. No, this wont kill Wow or even hurt Blizzards income much, the chinese players paid very little and I think Blizzard largely had its chinese version for status, since 6 million players extra or so makes the sub number sounds really huge.

The thing that will eventually kills Wow is time, the game gets older and computergames are like rap artists, they dont age well. Aion is already taking Wows asian players fast but that wont happen in the west, the game is too asian to be the next huge game.

But other games are coming like TOR, GW2, WoDO, Copernicus and others, many of them made by earlier Blizzard programmers or huge companies with many best selling games like Bioware and Bethesda. I think of them, or several will take Wows title in about 2 years or so, Wow cant last forever.

  Mykell

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7/14/09 5:16:35 PM#23

Would be funny if banning millions of chinese WoW players led to social unrest and demonstrations/clashed like seen recently in Iran. China likes to pretend its changed now its part of the global economy  but its still a communist state at heart.

  Vyron

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7/14/09 5:17:36 PM#24

Yes, I deleted a few un-needed replies.

Please keep the discussion clean folks.

Thanks

  User Deleted
7/14/09 5:21:23 PM#25
Originally posted by Mykell

Would be funny if banning millions of chinese WoW players led to social unrest and demonstrations/clashed like seen recently in Iran. China likes to pretend its changed now its part of the global economy  but its still a communist state at heart.


 

Hehe..Wow helps bring down an evil regime, that would give them bragging rights!

  User Deleted
7/14/09 6:00:17 PM#26
Originally posted by Hammertime1
Originally posted by Mykell

Would be funny if banning millions of chinese WoW players led to social unrest and demonstrations/clashed like seen recently in Iran. China likes to pretend its changed now its part of the global economy  but its still a communist state at heart.


 

Hehe..Wow helps bring down an evil regime, that would give them bragging rights!

 

Addictive enough to start a revoloution...

  RamenThief7

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Undefeatability lies within ourselves. Defeatability lies with the enemy.

7/15/09 12:26:49 AM#27
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by liddokun
Trump up charges to eliminate the competition because WoW was too successful in China ?

More like The9 sucked so Blizzard went with a better company so The9 got all pissy that Blizzard was their entire income.

 

Also, even if WoW does lose China they will still be king of the MMO mountain. WoW will still have twice as many subscribers as Aion and WoW will still make about $100 million a month.

So, if WoW is banned in China it wont be the massive blow that many people here think it would be.

Um...5 million people just got banned from WOW. So, that puts the total subscribers that WOW had from 9-11 million to about 5-6 million. So, I consider that a massive blow to the game.

Not that I care, I"m actually celebrating considering how much I hate WOW and how it made light death punishments popular, thus I see less middle-cores and rogue-likes nowadays. I don't believe that there shouldn't be games with light death punishments, but I severely wish there were more games out there with harsher death penalties.

 

  Krilster

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Joined: 7/14/09
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7/15/09 12:40:14 AM#28
Originally posted by Zorvan

Which is why the U.S. needs to start blocking Chinese games. They throw their POS games over here with impunity, but then don't want our games there. I say we make it mutual.

 

QFT

  tanek

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Joined: 11/05/08
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7/15/09 12:51:06 AM#29
Originally posted by Ozarumon
Originally posted by skeaser

Ouch...

This will hurt numbers, but wasn't China on a pay by the hour type system?

China wont  put a dent in  blizzards wallet matter fact with china out of the way they will bring it so many more players from other countries due to playable pandarian and less gold spam/selling

I may be eating my words if the next expansion brings in Pandaren now, but I tend to believe that China was not the only reason the race never made it into WoW.  That isn't to say they won't ever be there, just that I don't think it will be any time soon or have any relationship to the goings on in China.

As for gold farming/selling, if you are talking about its presence on the US or EU versions, even if a significant portion of it is from accounts based in China, how does the potential shutdown of Blizzard's ability to have a company run the game there affect accounts in other localized clients?  Unless China finds a way to prevent all traffic from there to any WoW server anywhere, I don't see much of an impact there, either.

If this happens, it will be a blow to Blizzard as a company and there may be some manner of fallout, I just don't think it will be either of the things you mention.

  hopdog

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7/15/09 12:59:06 AM#30
Originally posted by Shannia

HOLY COW PATTIES, BATMAN!

Finally, Blizzard met a dragon it can't tame.

Looks like China is going to do something that no developer has figured out how to do, and that is to beat Blizzard.

Like many of us on the forums has always said, the only way Blizzard would no longer be king of the mountain is if they jumped off themselves, and it appears as they might have done just that.

 

 

if there is a will there is a way that is the solid fact.  i'm not going to name any but if they wanted to they can play though proxy with minimal lag for a small price.  a'last there are no solid walls on the net unless you cut yourself off at the sorce the faucet will alway's leak water.

  Xiaoki

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Posts: 1437

7/15/09 1:06:15 AM#31


Originally posted by RamenThief7
Um...5 million people just got banned from WOW. So, that puts the total subscribers that WOW had from 9-11 million to about 5-6 million. So, I consider that a massive blow to the game.

You'd think that but no.

In 2007 when WoW alone brought in $1.2 billion less than $100 million of that was from China.

Yes, thats right, the people that say China doesnt matter because they pay pennies a day are actually right. Even though China is the largest region for WoW China accounts for less than 10% of WoWs total revenue.

Thats actually one of the factors for Blizzard dropping The9, money. Blizzard would get a higher royalty rate from NetEase which would be about $40 million more a year.

  User Deleted
7/15/09 1:20:35 AM#32
Originally posted by Zorvan

Which is why the U.S. needs to start blocking Chinese games. They throw their POS games over here with impunity, but then don't want our games there. I say we make it mutual.

Yes fair trade has never been had with China and an even playing field should have been demanded years ago, the problem now is the U.S. is so in debt to China we are in no position to demand anything. The way i see it, the government will play nice with China to finance the next big "stimulus" package. But that is another rant for another time and place. :)

  RamenThief7

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Undefeatability lies within ourselves. Defeatability lies with the enemy.

7/15/09 2:35:11 AM#33
Originally posted by Xiaoki

 


Originally posted by RamenThief7
Um...5 million people just got banned from WOW. So, that puts the total subscribers that WOW had from 9-11 million to about 5-6 million. So, I consider that a massive blow to the game.

You'd think that but no.

 

In 2007 when WoW alone brought in $1.2 billion less than $100 million of that was from China.

Yes, thats right, the people that say China doesnt matter because they pay pennies a day are actually right. Even though China is the largest region for WoW China accounts for less than 10% of WoWs total revenue.

Thats actually one of the factors for Blizzard dropping The9, money. Blizzard would get a higher royalty rate from NetEase which would be about $40 million more a year.

 

Grrrr.....so even China could not dent up Blizzard. China, you had a chance to show one positive thing you could do, but no, now you add to a list of failures among your communist ideas, the tianamen square massacre, the cruel treatment of Tibetans and their leader the Dalai Lama, and horrible human rights abuse.

Of course, that discussion is for a thread for a different website.

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