For people quoting the Bill Roper interview, I'm quite aware of that and every other little tidbit they've said about Cryptic Bucks.

While with a wishful thinking hat on some have interpreted what Bill said to mean "there will only be fluff items for sale with MTs", he doesn't actually say that.

His response is vague and non-committal.

I stand by my earlier claim that no definitive answer has been given.

Frankly, I thought it was pretty straight forward. Mythic bucks are used to BUY  items from Mythic. Wheater it is CO or Star Trek or a Hat.  It is a game card that canbe used for more then just games.

Originally posted by AJ2ME

Frankly, I thought it was pretty straight forward. Mythic bucks are used to BUY  items from Mythic. Wheater it is CO or Star Trek or a Hat.  It is a game card that canbe used for more then just games.

It is the buy "anything IN game" that is the problem for me.  anything implies stuff thaat makes the characters more powerful based on how much you can spend on Cryptic bucks.

I was up to this point somewhat interested in this game, but now that RMT is confirmed I choose to vote with my wallet and stay well clear of it.

So they are also killing STO with Cryptic Bucks? Good, I was thinking we'd get too many potential MMOs in the future.

RMT officially in-game? Reason for me to not even try the game, especially when it already has a retail cost and a monthly fee. It doesn't matter if they are fluff or not, my vision of monthly subscriptions allow me to virtually possess anything, this is nothing more than a new way to squeeze money from players coupled with the retail and monthly fees.

Why would anyone be surprised that they would do anything but RMT?  They were so insistent on putting in game advertising in CoH, it was only inevitable that they would move away from a soley subscription based model to a subscription / RMT / In Game Advertising scheme to earn more than they deserve, captialism at it's best (worst).

 I doubt it'll be RMT Material.

Lets not forget Bill Rober tends to hype up things. Cryptic Bucks sounds like a universial payment system with the added bonus of being able to buy their DLC across their games (Like the CoX Cyborg, or Magic packs) which I find interesting.

In short I think we need a bit more information before we start finding the tar anf feathers.

RMT going to impact my game time, not a cat in hells chance.

I've played so many games that have added RMT and not a single one of then has ever managed to ruin my own personal gaming time, I don't use the shops hence it's not going to affect me.

Do I care if someone has bought his way to max lvl or got himself some fancy gear, nope don't give a hoot, they obviously have the money to do so and thats their choice.

Too many ppl worry about RMT spoiling a game, it only spoils it if your trying to keep up with the players using RMT, why worry what your neighbour is doing, worry about what YOUR doing and don't lose any sleep over other players.

There could be a button next to my character creation screen that says "Press here to get all the epic gear in the game plus max lvl/ bonus exp/bonus hp/bonus mana for the special price of £200" I'l quickly bypass that button because once you've pressed it whats the bloody point in playing the game, you've got everything and now the game would just become a piece of eye candy to walk around im showing off what you've just bought.

No thanks, I'd rather get my stuff the old fashioned way by playing the game, let those who can afford to use the RMT.

Originally posted by elderotter

Originally posted by AJ2ME

Frankly, I thought it was pretty straight forward. Mythic bucks are used to BUY  items from Mythic. Wheater it is CO or Star Trek or a Hat.  It is a game card that canbe used for more then just games.

It is the buy "anything IN game" that is the problem for me.  anything implies stuff thaat makes the characters more powerful based on how much you can spend on Cryptic bucks.

They can be talking about character transfer and more character slots, maybe they dont plan on adding an item shop, think about it, you really dont know what are they going to set on sale for this bucks. Dont let the sky fall over your head until it really happen.

Originally posted by alakram

Originally posted by elderotter

Originally posted by AJ2ME

Frankly, I thought it was pretty straight forward. Mythic bucks are used to BUY  items from Mythic. Wheater it is CO or Star Trek or a Hat.  It is a game card that canbe used for more then just games.

It is the buy "anything IN game" that is the problem for me.  anything implies stuff thaat makes the characters more powerful based on how much you can spend on Cryptic bucks.

 

They can be talking about character transfer and more character slots, maybe they dont plan on adding an item shop, think about it, you really dont know what are they going to set on sale for this bucks. Dont let the sky fall over your head until it really happen.

then they should not have said "anything in game".  Their secrecy is working against them.  There is a time to be open about it, and that time is passing quickly.

Originally posted by Vrazule

Why would anyone be surprised that they would do anything but RMT?  They were so insistent on putting in game advertising in CoH, it was only inevitable that they would move away from a soley subscription based model to a subscription / RMT / In Game Advertising scheme to earn more than they deserve, captialism at it's best (worst).

that microtransaction stuff in cox started when ncsoft acquired city of

Originally posted by TormDK

 I doubt it'll be RMT Material.

Lets not forget Bill Rober tends to hype up things. Cryptic Bucks sounds like a universial payment system with the added bonus of being able to buy their DLC across their games (Like the CoX Cyborg, or Magic packs) which I find interesting.

In short I think we need a bit more information before we start finding the tar anf feathers.

all those packs started when ncsoft purchased city of heroes  cryptic had nothing to do with that...

Doesn't this game have PvP?  I don't think they'd put stat-enhancing gear into the item shop of a game that features competitive play.  That would be a fatal error.

Originally posted by Ferretboy

Doesn't this game have PvP?  I don't think they'd put stat-enhancing gear into the item shop of a game that features competitive play.  That would be a fatal error.

I believe they mentioned it, but i don't think they covered in detail what it would be like - which is their Modus Operandi - treat the customers like mushrooms, keep them in the dark and feed them on shyte.

You design your own arch nemesis for PvE where your friends can join you to fight them throughout the story or vice versa.  I don't believe there will be any PvP outside of a meaningless arena.

Looks like dueling, an arena system, and.. scenarios?

Champions Online Unveils PVP System

I share the OP's disappointment about the MT situation.

But I also have reservations about xp and loot distribution.

The limited statements they've made on these indicate that they aren't split equally amongst team members and the underlying mechanics seem prone to balance problems.

I saw a video interview with Bill and it stated that any cosmetic upgrades you can buy in the store can be earned in the game, as well as other little tidbits like extra character slots, name change, etc.  Said items will probably not be game breaking to give it an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't buy cryptic bucks.  That being said, not everybody can buy cryptic bucks due to one issue or another so all those items being in game will give those players a chance to acquire some neat looking stuff.  But like I said before, don't expect any items to be giving boosts over another player in PvP or make your superhero super powerful on a raid scale.  The devs know that is what can break a game.

Originally posted by Ravenmane

I saw a video interview with Bill and it stated that any cosmetic upgrades you can buy in the store can be earned in the game, as well as other little tidbits like extra character slots, name change, etc.  Said items will probably not be game breaking to give it an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't buy cryptic bucks.  That being said, not everybody can buy cryptic bucks due to one issue or another so all those items being in game will give those players a chance to acquire some neat looking stuff.  But like I said before, don't expect any items to be giving boosts over another player in PvP or make your superhero super powerful on a raid scale.  The devs know that is what can break a game.

QFT. The things you can buy are either purely cosmetic, or earnable ingame. Stop whining, you don't have to use the MT, and it just gives more money for developing content.

Originally posted by demonic87

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Originally posted by Ravenmane
 
I saw a video interview with Bill and it stated that any cosmetic upgrades you can buy in the store can be earned in the game, as well as other little tidbits like extra character slots, name change, etc.  Said items will probably not be game breaking to give it an unfair advantage over someone who doesn't buy cryptic bucks.  That being said, not everybody can buy cryptic bucks due to one issue or another so all those items being in game will give those players a chance to acquire some neat looking stuff.  But like I said before, don't expect any items to be giving boosts over another player in PvP or make your superhero super powerful on a raid scale.  The devs know that is what can break a game.
 

 
QFT. The things you can buy are either purely cosmetic, or earnable ingame. Stop whining, you don't have to use the MT, and it just gives more money for developing content.
 

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The idea is wanting to be able to have things there that players can get if they want to, but they don’t negatively impact the balance of the game. It’s not like we’re expecting players to go and purchase things through micro-transactions that then give them some huge leg up.
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Right. So for us, the things we’re looking at with micro-transactions are more along the lines of being fun for players to have that aren’t going to be doing anything to disrupt or upset the balance of the game, or give someone who decides to use micro-transactions any kind of leg up on anybody else.
 

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Yeah I know, we can get this kind of item too ingame in some way later if what Bill says is true but if the add that stuff with RMT...........