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7/14/09 9:20:19 PM#41
Actually no, you can enter enemy territory after lvl 20 via rifts to gank people/bots. Also if their farming the Abyss its an open pvp area so their fair game aswell. Bots will not stand a chance once the pvp players find their grind locations. GW2 the future of MMO gaming |
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mackdawg19
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Joined: 5/28/07
"If men were created equal, then what happened to game developers?" |
7/14/09 9:23:50 PM#42
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
You can train mobs on people. Reminds me of the good ole EQ days .... =) |
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7/15/09 2:25:09 AM#43
All I can say is dont worry too much, If you see bots and hackers walking around just spam every single forum and send a million messages to the GM's in the end they will fix it :) |
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7/15/09 7:11:29 AM#44
Isn't this what the infamous GameGuard is supposed to prevent?... ... |
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7/16/09 11:19:31 AM#45
Originally posted by supbro
You're not quite getting what I'm saying. There are videos of entire clans of bots farming together, where attacking one makes all of them swarm you. I didn't say you couldn't attack them, I said you couldn't win. Fortunately, this is only in C-Aion (almost feel bad for them) so I don't see that happening here. As for rifts, bots will typically team while farming so you'll need to go through rifts with a team to take them down, except in very low-level areas which you, as an opposite faction, do NOT have access to. Everything is zoned, so in order to get to those areas you'd need a teleporter, and getting anywhere near an NPC of the opposite faction = you dying very quickly without a good team. Don't even try to enter a town, you'll literally be dead before you know what hit you.
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7/18/09 1:26:32 PM#46
I played in the last beta, and just out of curiousity, I wrote some very simple kill/loot macros using an off the shelf macro tool. Aion actually makes it super easy to accomplish this. The controls allowed for looting and targeting etc lend themselves to macroing (and full on botting as well). I managed to level a toon from 1-10 overnight with only a few prods from the keyboard. It made me very sad, as this is something I personally destest. When a game actually facilitates the use of macros and bots I usually choose not to play. Soo, unless they implement some major changes to the game interface I don't thinks this problem going away, and any server you choose will more then likely be a Bot-haven, thus ruining the RPG experience.
p.s. the whole player store thing is annoying as hell too. They should restrict where people can set up shop. When I teleported my first time out of the starter zone, expecting to see something new and amazing, all I saw was a sea of charactor merchants. Talk about lame. |
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7/19/09 2:40:22 AM#47
Unless you have played Lineage 2 at High levels you simpy will not understand. Everything you guys have mentioned WAS and still is done buy those very, very few legits that still remain. NCsoft are masters of the tounge, they say one thing and do the other or nothing at all. When L2 began the leveling was hard yes, it was not impossible, but hard. The longer the game was around the higher they kept raising there levels and compounding XP reqs until any normal player simply could not keep up with the botters, even people that played 20 hrs a day. More and more legits started to bot, at first they were shunned by the community but not for long as more became botters themselves until a time came when teh bots controlled every server and every majo alliance that existed on all servers. The ecomomy raged out of control to the point where you had to buy adnea period to play the game. To put it into perspective a set of S Grade armor in lineage 2 costs around 1 Billion adena thats like $350.00 USD, Weapon was even higher and people pay this. Boss jewels are up to $4,000K USD and people pay this....... don't you get it yet people AION will be no differnet they wil get you hooked then start the Asin grinder BS, the Bot is available at gogygo.se go see it and read the posts for yourself. I personaly believe that the company itself is behind alot of the bots but that's speculation at best. Botter companies make up at least 2 million PAID accounts for NCSOFT so they will not BAN them unless it is a non factor toon. Heroes in L2 were never banned, where known botters, you could go see them anytime day or night at thier spots. Spam did ban a few of of them but they were all given thier accounts back buy "someone higer". As players have said you cannot fight the BOTs if you kill 1 they come back with 10 if you come with 100 they come with 200, it is a business to them and a way of life and why I will never play a Ncsoft game again. I am HBSR from Sieghart and Elvandar from SWG Starsider..... you will never beat the cheaters. |
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7/19/09 3:38:15 AM#48
Originally posted by gaeanprayer
You really shouldnt post such BS info, there is no such limitation on purchasing or playing AION |
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7/19/09 3:46:23 AM#49
Are you retarded or maybe just dense.
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Lord_Ixigan
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Joined: 3/23/08
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7/19/09 4:05:37 AM#50
Originally posted by Forumfall
No, simply no. That's like saying let hackers hack and enjoy playing the game their way. Let gold farmers farm gold and control prices. So on and so forth. It's a completely ass backwards way of viewing things. People try to use the old, "I don't have a lot of time to play, so I have to bot to compete." Well, clearly you have a busy life, so why would you waste your money to let a program play your game for you? In many instances you not only have to pay a monthly fee to the company that owns the game, but then ANOTHER monthly fee to whichever group owns the bot program to use that. So you have a busy life, that you're going to make more busy by working more to pay for a program that plays another program you also paid and continue to pay for. It's just a freaking game, if you can't enjoy just logging in for whatever time you have to level then I have to wonder what your malfunction is. The only time I even remotely condone botting is in instances like L2 where EVERYBODY freaking bots and if you don't bot you're secrewed. Even then I just suggest not playing the game because it's clearly broken.
Bottom line: Botting is retarded and mostly done by farmers in order to illegally make money off of someone else's work. Gold selling companies in Asia have been known to have ties with organized crime, believe it or not. |
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7/19/09 7:46:13 AM#51
Aion Bot Report System: "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in." |
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7/19/09 9:11:39 AM#52
Originally posted by thexrated
Same system Lineage 2 has and guess what NCSOFT just added it to appease players they do not acually do anything with it. img387.imageshack.us/img387/9693/shot00044vw9.jpg L2 Botter www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php Aion BOT confirmation www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php This is the type of players you'll be dealing with www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-jRjNTNRpVV8/logans_aion_macro_bot/ Not only Botters but you can AFK MACRO this game all day long LOLZ seriously? www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-pgsyFq7I3Qs/gg_botters/ and lok how many Bots are in this one... they are the ones running off the cliff Anyway I hope you all have fun and I'll see you back in whatever game you came from in a month or so.
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7/19/09 12:56:03 PM#53
LoL, My name is Spanky Lo, I'm got my hands in Pimping, Gambling and WoW Gold Botting. I enjoy long walks in the park and a glass of wine on the beach at sunset. |
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7/19/09 2:33:36 PM#54
Originally posted by Nadril
There is no restriction on buyiing and there are no IP blocks making it NA only. You need to post facts not the crap that you dribble. Next you will be saying gameguard works. |
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7/19/09 2:36:20 PM#55
Jesus, did you even look at the links I gave you? There are blocks between continents and you can not, for example, buy the NA game in EU. I really hope you're just trolling at this point. |
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7/19/09 3:09:15 PM#56
Originally posted by Nadril
Because a certain vendor doesnt sell outside the US doesnt mean you carnt purchase EU or NA out side of EU and NA respectivly. You link to a forum post thats not offical and really doesnt mean anything. Chinese and Korean Aion both playable from anywhere. I myself am not in the US and have had no trouble purchasing the game. NCsoft dont lock out regional IPs just look at all thier other games. I suggest you only post official information instead of your trolling. |
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7/19/09 6:19:15 PM#57
Originally posted by Ruckup
Same system Lineage 2 has and guess what NCSOFT just added it to appease players they do not acually do anything with it. img387.imageshack.us/img387/9693/shot00044vw9.jpg L2 Botter www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php Aion BOT confirmation www.l2guru.com/forum/showthread.php This is the type of players you'll be dealing with www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-jRjNTNRpVV8/logans_aion_macro_bot/ Not only Botters but you can AFK MACRO this game all day long LOLZ seriously? www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-pgsyFq7I3Qs/gg_botters/ and lok how many Bots are in this one... they are the ones running off the cliff Anyway I hope you all have fun and I'll see you back in whatever game you came from in a month or so.
The last link owns :D I spent 1 hour watching them plumetting into the ground down below, it was funny :D And sad at the same time. Btw, that spot is just good, some more spots designed like this should be made, like all respawn points having certain death around them :D That would be awesome :D
As for a more serious note, that area is still good, if there are too much bots around, you just use "change channel" and get away from them, but in Eltnen and later its impossible, cuz the "change channel" option will be turned off. So there will be you watching how YOUR mobs get ganked by 50, same looking, randomly named bots... ANd at the same time you gonna shout "GIEVE MY FRICKING MONEH BACK!!!" |
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7/21/09 12:52:31 PM#58
Originally posted by Nazradin
Jesus, did you even look at the links I gave you? There are blocks between continents and you can not, for example, buy the NA game in EU. I really hope you're just trolling at this point.
Because a certain vendor doesnt sell outside the US doesnt mean you carnt purchase EU or NA out side of EU and NA respectivly. You link to a forum post thats not offical and really doesnt mean anything. Chinese and Korean Aion both playable from anywhere. I myself am not in the US and have had no trouble purchasing the game. NCsoft dont lock out regional IPs just look at all thier other games. I suggest you only post official information instead of your trolling.
Actually, you should really do a bit of research before you begin trying to troll. Look at the NCSoft website itself and you will see what you are allowed to purchase is dependent upon your region. Sure, you can probably find someone willing to buy you an NA box if you're in EU, but that's like saying I can't import J-Pop; no one's saying it's impossible, just that it's not immediately available. You have to jump through hoops to do this which makes it very difficult for large-scale operation. You're quibbling over details purely out of disdain and it's unflattering.
Whether NCSoft locks out regional IPs on their other games is irrelevant, just that they stated they are doing so for this one. Ayase in his own post, acknowledged there were still ways around this, because he's smart enough to realize there are ways around anything. The point is, they're making the attempt, and that is enough to deter the majority of botters. Yes, someone like you can work around it, but considering you're making a forum post I'd say it is a safe bet you're not a bot; you're not MEANT to play on US servers, but they're not going to waste time and resources kicking you, a legitimate player, out of the game when the efforts can be concentrated on whole groups of people ruining the economy.
Also: http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/18513-why-block-ips-outside-u-s-3.html#post460834
There is a link to a post by Ayase, one of the Community Managers and member of the Aion faculty (so there's your "official") stating their efforts in IP blocking, after a player complains that after buying an NA key he found he still couldn't get in-game with his European IP.
And for the last time, CAion has a different publisher, and nothing done in that game can or should be compared to any other version. How they run their game doesn't reflect how anyone else will. They've had the game for months now and are still running on the earliest version, while the US/EU, which isn't even live yet, is already going to be using a later version. China has made it quite clear they couldn't care less about the game or its players.
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7/21/09 12:59:00 PM#59
There are no IP restrictions on South American players as there are no official server choices for them as of now. While you may say brazillians can be a RMT workforce, the funny thing is that there are no RMT companies for the MMOs hosted over here, you won't find a single spamming bot over here, while in games like RF Online it's impossible to chat through the Map and General (busy areas) chats. It's generally a major complaint from Brazillian players when they comment about playing on NA/EU servers - the existence of illegal third-party companies selling virtual goods that infest the game with bots and spamming. |
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7/21/09 1:34:18 PM#60
Originally posted by Nadril
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