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  JudgeRoyBean

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Joined: 6/26/09
Posts: 45

 
7/09/09 7:46:29 AM#1

Every time I log into Aion, I immediately know this is an Asian game. From the cute little quest givers, to the font that is used to spell out the name of a new zone when entering. I would rather see a block font than the bamboo looking words that are currently being used…drives me nuts.
Here is the formula for making an Asian game.
1) make sure you have lots of flashing colorful lights (to keep the users' interest).
2) use spinning karate moves when fighting, all the time yelling Hike! Hike!
3) make all women look like 10 yr old girls.
4) and populate your game with cute little "Pokémon" looking animals.

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

  Hyanmen

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Joined: 10/11/06
Posts: 4397

7/09/09 7:49:45 AM#2

 You seem to generalize Korean with Asian there.

  Xasapis

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Posts: 5143

7/09/09 7:55:32 AM#3
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

....

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
...

 

My speculation but ... I don't think that it will happen. I doubt they will have different artistic looks for the same game across different regions. Besides, what you're talking is a matter of taste. Personally I found the art mature enough (if that makes any sense whatsoever).

How exactly would you "man up" the game?

  Teiman

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Joined: 2/29/08
Posts: 1327

7/09/09 7:56:05 AM#4
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

This is doable,  make soo the default for character are designed to look westernized (different pre-sets for the western version, is a simple change, not a hugue one).    Maybe even make so the korean devs add some textures / decorators that will be used by the western guys. 

One with my problems with the game is that *all*, and with all, i mean ALL  male npc's are  efemenine.  I am not a person that say "GAY" at any oportunity, but here is real, all the males in AION looks GAY.  I don't think that can be modified, and I think is bad, if only because of the lack or variety

  Nicksd

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Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/09/09 8:02:29 AM#5
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

  Elsabolts

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Joined: 10/03/06
Posts: 2096

Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

7/09/09 8:04:06 AM#6
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

Its called continued subscriptions, but that is just how i see it
 

  arcdevil

Novice Member

Joined: 7/20/07
Posts: 894

You seem like a nice guy. I'll kill you last.

7/09/09 8:09:17 AM#7

Aion is based on an anime, asians love anime-ish look, and Aion's # of asian subs will tenfold western's # of asian subs no matter what. there you are, 3 reasons why Aion looks anime-ish

iirc they are focusing on giving Aion a western voice acting, but the anime style stays.

 

and tbh,i'd say far more people in west like that style than more realistic gfx sort of AoC...just look at WoW,totally anime-ish

 

 

 

anyway if you think NCSoft is gonna devote time/money going for a total gfx revamp "western style", you obviosly dont have a fucking clue what is a model or an animation, and how much time/work they take to make

 

 

so if Aion isnt your piece of cake, shuush and lurk some moar for another game. nobody cares

  Bureyku

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Joined: 1/05/09
Posts: 492

7/09/09 8:09:31 AM#8

This won't happen.  It's like saying when WoW brings it's game to the Asian market they have to change all the characters to anime style.

A game is a game and it's made by the nation that makes it with the style that company wants to make it.  You can play it or not.

  mbd1968

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Joined: 2/21/07
Posts: 1404

7/09/09 8:10:09 AM#9
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

  Shannia

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Joined: 11/06/05
Posts: 2083

"World of WarCraft is held alive solely by the mediocrity of competing products." RendRegen

7/09/09 8:12:05 AM#10
Originally posted by Elsabolts
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

Its called continued subscriptions, but that is just how i see it
 


 

The game already has millions of users in Asia.  I'm positive that it won't make or break the developers if it only gets a one or two hundred thousand subscribers in the west.  As good as they say this game is, I'm sure it will get a lot more.

 

Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."

  Nicksd

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/09/09 8:16:31 AM#11
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

 

If you don't like the looks, then don't play..

Lets be real here, they are not going to remodel everything. It will never happen. They made it how they wanted to, and westerners are not special enough to do a remodel of the game.

  Elsabolts

Advanced Member

Joined: 10/03/06
Posts: 2096

Life Liberty and the Pursuit of those that would threaten It

7/09/09 8:21:24 AM#12
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

 

If you don't like the looks, then don't play..

Lets be real here, they are not going to remodel everything. It will never happen. They made it how they wanted to, and westerners are not special enough to do a remodel of the game.


 

If what you say is true why market it here at all. I would at least do a few things such as english voice overs western looking charcters and armor. Or at least say that they will come in expansions. If on the other hand there just looking for intinal box sales then ok. On continued subscriptions not sure that will be high at least in the states. This is how i see it.

  Locklain

Novice Member

Joined: 5/30/04
Posts: 2201

7/09/09 8:25:06 AM#13
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

Has it ever crossed your mind that you are not part of the "prospective market" as you call it?  The game was designed several years ago and will not change for the few narcissistic people on this forum.

 

It's a Jeep thing. . .
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You wouldn't understand

  User Deleted
7/09/09 8:25:46 AM#14

I have to agree with the OP, I have never liked the korean/asia look to their MMO's, they largly all look the same (guess a korean would say the same about most western games too such as EQ2 vs Vanguard).

Everyone\thing looks so "effeminate"... dont know about any one else but when im pwning newbs I dont wanna do it in a dress with perfectly manicured nails and designer hair that covers half my face... especialy if im playing a male warrior.

And another pet hate.. the over the top animations, I press a skill attack and i have enough time to go read harry potter while the animation plays out, flips, kicks, stabs.. yadda yadda.

Then again there was that time, I got very drunk and declared my love for Thrall and sent him a rather revealing gnomish photo, he never did return my phone calls.

  Nicksd

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Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/09/09 8:25:58 AM#15
Originally posted by Elsabolts
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

 

If you don't like the looks, then don't play..

Lets be real here, they are not going to remodel everything. It will never happen. They made it how they wanted to, and westerners are not special enough to do a remodel of the game.


 

If what you say is true why market it here at all. I would at least do a few things such as english voice overs western looking charcters and armor. Or at least say that they will come in expansions. If on the other hand there just looking for intinal box sales then ok. On continued subscriptions not sure that will be high at least in the states. This is how i see it.

 

There are probably a lot more westerners who like the graphic style then you think. I am fairly certain they will do well in the states.

  mbd1968

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Joined: 2/21/07
Posts: 1404

7/09/09 8:36:01 AM#16
Originally posted by Locklain
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

Has it ever crossed your mind that you are not part of the "prospective market" as you call it?  The game was designed several years ago and will not change for the few narcissistic people on this forum.

 

What do you mean? I'm the most important person in the Universe!! Everything is designed and manufactured soley for me.

  Nicksd

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/09/09 8:38:51 AM#17
Originally posted by mbd1968

What do you mean? I'm the most important person in the Universe!! Everything is designed and manufactured soley for me.

 

  Jojin

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Joined: 5/25/06
Posts: 91

7/09/09 8:43:53 AM#18

According to one of the interviews, there is more to the process than just making translations.  They also spoke to altering things like quests and story parts to be more familiar with the Western Culture.

For example they mentioned if they had a common Eastern fable reference, it would not be suitable for the Western audience as they most likely would not know about it.  Just like if there was something about a young leader who told a lie about chopping down a cherry tree, most Eastern people who not have a clue as to the reference.

As for the "look" of the game.  It's overall style is fantasy dealing with angels and ascended beings.  I am not sure what you mean by "man up", but while there may be cute animals and effeminate looking guys, you are more than free to make a a character who is manly and butt ugly if you would prefer.

Remember, even for the Western world, men used to wear wigs, powder and ruffled clothes which was a sign of nobility and power.  So saying the concept is only an Eastern one, is not correct.  Additionally, if they went with all cute and pleasant looking they could ensure the game could also be marketed to younger individuals.

In the end, you are free to not like a game based on the overall artwork, but please don't start saying a Fantasy World cannot be Western because you do not consider it manly, realistic and in lines with current fashion.

 

  User Deleted
7/09/09 8:44:22 AM#19

Does it have swords bigger than a table too?

  Locklain

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Joined: 5/30/04
Posts: 2201

7/09/09 9:01:13 AM#20
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Locklain
Originally posted by mbd1968
Originally posted by Nicksd
Originally posted by JudgeRoyBean

 

Before releasing to the West, Ncsoft needs to make sure the game is more mature looking. After only 2 beta's, the thought of playing Aion is starting to turn my stomach. Ncsoft needs to "man up" Aion.
Tell me that NCsoft's idea of Westernizing Aion is not just making sure the punctuation is correct. Please tell me there's more...

 

Hahaha, what makes westerners so special? Why should they change their game just for you? I understand why people think they have any right to tell a company what they should and should not do with their game. Yes I said their game, it is not yours.

The game looks fine, and I am from USA.

 

Because many people, like myself, do noy like th look of Asian games and so either will not buy them to begin with or will not contine to sub after the first month... NCSoft will lose money... anyone with any knowledge of marketing and production knows you have to tailor your product to your prospective market... if you don't you product will be unpopular and not succeed.

 

Has it ever crossed your mind that you are not part of the "prospective market" as you call it?  The game was designed several years ago and will not change for the few narcissistic people on this forum.

 

What do you mean? I'm the most important person in the Universe!! Everything is designed and manufactured soley for me.

Your statement may be in jest but there are a lot of people on this forum that project themselves as being more important than everyone else.

It's a Jeep thing. . .
_______
|___|
\_______/
= ||||||
=
|X| \*........*/ |X|
|X|_________|X|
You wouldn't understand

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