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  Player_420

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Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 696

 
7/08/09 10:29:17 AM#1

Their new ad campaign made me laugh very hard today.

As many of you know all the recent scandles in the EVE online universe, people getting ripped off, hacking, account vulnerability.

And just days after a new EVE Online scandle heres their new ad:

OUR UNIVERSE.....OUR LAWS.....YOUR LOSS!

I cant help but think they are sadly enough mocking their already shaken playerbase?

I play all ghame

  Bureyku

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/05/09
Posts: 492

7/08/09 10:30:14 AM#2

What goes on in EVE is part of what makes EVE great.  It is a true sandbox.

  demolishIX

Novice Member

Joined: 11/03/05
Posts: 669

A battle is won but the war rages on.

7/08/09 10:30:40 AM#3
Originally posted by Player_420

Their new ad campaign made me laugh very hard today.

As many of you know all the recent scandles in the EVE online universe, people getting ripped off, hacking, account vulnerability.

And just days after a new EVE Online scandle heres their new ad:

OUR UNIVERSE.....OUR LAWS.....YOUR LOSS!

I cant help but think they are sadly enough mocking their already shaken playerbase?

 

 You are a moron,have a nice day .

  Player_420

Novice Member

Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 696

 
7/08/09 10:32:50 AM#4

Thank you for contributing Mr. X

I play all ghame

  blackhawk432

Novice Member

Joined: 6/20/09
Posts: 135

Where's all the good MMOS?

7/08/09 10:37:35 AM#5

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

Last MMO: MO
Currently Playing : Call of Duty 2 (since there seems to be no good MMO's lately.)
Waiting for : anything

  EricDanie

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Joined: 2/10/05
Posts: 2127

7/08/09 10:39:22 AM#6
Originally posted by blackhawk432

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

 

It doesn't have the Profit step, so this guide fails. Need PROFIT!

  Rhoklaw

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/12/04
Posts: 2305

My Top 3 List:
1) EverQuest
2) Dark Age of Camelot
3) Star Wars Galaxies

7/08/09 10:40:44 AM#7
Originally posted by demolishIX
Originally posted by Player_420

Their new ad campaign made me laugh very hard today.

As many of you know all the recent scandles in the EVE online universe, people getting ripped off, hacking, account vulnerability.

And just days after a new EVE Online scandle heres their new ad:

OUR UNIVERSE.....OUR LAWS.....YOUR LOSS!

I cant help but think they are sadly enough mocking their already shaken playerbase?

 

 You are a moron,have a nice day .


 

I don't think calling him a moron is absolutely necessary. It's well known and I can speak from experience, that Eve, while a good game, is still full of scams, cheats and favoritisms on CCP's part. Yes, it's part of the game, but I wouldn't exactly call it an eye catcher. Lets just say you won't increase your subscriber numbers very well when new players constantly get screwed over. However, theres enough dedicated people out there that Eve is in no immediate threat of suffering a horrible death.

  blackhawk432

Novice Member

Joined: 6/20/09
Posts: 135

Where's all the good MMOS?

7/08/09 10:43:00 AM#8
Originally posted by EricDanie
Originally posted by blackhawk432

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

 

It doesn't have the Profit step, so this guide fails. Need PROFIT!

Would have, could have, should have.. but in all fairness there is no profit in Eve. Just mass amount of logged off hours while skills train.

Last MMO: MO
Currently Playing : Call of Duty 2 (since there seems to be no good MMO's lately.)
Waiting for : anything

  Zyke

Novice Member

Joined: 4/12/04
Posts: 335

7/08/09 11:20:40 AM#9
Originally posted by blackhawk432
Originally posted by EricDanie
Originally posted by blackhawk432

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

 

It doesn't have the Profit step, so this guide fails. Need PROFIT!

Would have, could have, should have.. but in all fairness there is no profit in Eve. Just mass amount of logged off hours while skills train.

 

I'm guessing you either don't play the game or you're doing it wrong.

To the OP: The scams, stealing, pirating, etc. are what make EVE so appealing. I don't do any of those personally, but the fact that you have the option to do whatever you want without GM's interfering with the way the player wants to play the game is a huge draw.

EVE has over 300k subs which in the pre-WOW days would be considered a highly successful game, and even today is still a lot more than many "main stream" games have.

  Vetarnias

Novice Member

Joined: 1/13/08
Posts: 595

7/08/09 11:27:12 AM#10
Originally posted by Zyke
Originally posted by blackhawk432
Originally posted by EricDanie
Originally posted by blackhawk432

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

 

It doesn't have the Profit step, so this guide fails. Need PROFIT!

Would have, could have, should have.. but in all fairness there is no profit in Eve. Just mass amount of logged off hours while skills train.

 

I'm guessing you either don't play the game or you're doing it wrong.

I think he summarized the game very well.  What's your incentive to log in if you level up while being offline?

To the OP: The scams, stealing, pirating, etc. are what make EVE so appealing. I don't do any of those personally, but the fact that you have the option to do whatever you want without GM's interfering with the way the player wants to play the game is a huge draw.

EVE has over 300k subs which in the pre-WOW days would be considered a highly successful game, and even today is still a lot more than many "main stream" games have.

 

  Nicksd

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/08/09 11:30:00 AM#11
Originally posted by Vetarnias
Originally posted by Zyke
Originally posted by blackhawk432
Originally posted by EricDanie
Originally posted by blackhawk432

Guide to playing eve:

Step 1. Log in

Step 2. Upgrade one of the 77 billion skills

Step 3. Log out

Step 4. ??????

Step 5. Success

 

It doesn't have the Profit step, so this guide fails. Need PROFIT!

Would have, could have, should have.. but in all fairness there is no profit in Eve. Just mass amount of logged off hours while skills train.

 

I'm guessing you either don't play the game or you're doing it wrong.

I think he summarized the game very well.  What's your incentive to log in if you level up while being offline?

To the OP: The scams, stealing, pirating, etc. are what make EVE so appealing. I don't do any of those personally, but the fact that you have the option to do whatever you want without GM's interfering with the way the player wants to play the game is a huge draw.

EVE has over 300k subs which in the pre-WOW days would be considered a highly successful game, and even today is still a lot more than many "main stream" games have.

 

 

Some people like to actually, you know, play the game.

  Vetarnias

Novice Member

Joined: 1/13/08
Posts: 595

7/08/09 11:35:47 AM#12

The problem isn't there; I'm sure the level-up-while-you-sleep idea is fine for people who don't have much time to play.  But the downside is that logging in gives you no advantage whatsoever regarding the speed at which you gain skills.  It does not go faster.  If you already have accomplished everything you wanted to do at your level, there is no need to bother logging in except to replenish your skills queue.

In my case, I'm sitting it out for a week because I have everything I need for my next stage, except the skills.

  Nicksd

Apprentice Member

Joined: 1/22/06
Posts: 410

7/08/09 11:42:15 AM#13
Originally posted by Vetarnias

The problem isn't there; I'm sure the level-up-while-you-sleep idea is fine for people who don't have much time to play.  But the downside is that logging in gives you no advantage whatsoever regarding the speed at which you gain skills.  It does not go faster.  If you already have accomplished everything you wanted to do at your level, there is no need to bother logging in except to replenish your skills queue.

In my case, I'm sitting it out for a week because I have everything I need for my next stage, except the skills.

 

I agree with this some what. It does take way to long to level up skills, but I personally like that you don't need to be online to level up at a faster rate. This isn't coming from a casual point of view. I was always logged in when I played. I think the system is fine other then the amount of time needed in general. I also want to know what you consider accomplishing everything at a level is?

There is always stuff to do in EVE. Sure some of it might be boring after a little bit. Just do something else then.

  Player_420

Novice Member

Joined: 2/19/04
Posts: 696

 
7/08/09 11:43:37 AM#14

Please try to keep on topic a little bit, this is NOT a troll forum.

I just noticed the ad, and thought it was oddly worded because of the many recent "scandles" or whatever you'd like to call them. I beta tested EVE, played it at release ect ect.

I play all ghame

  Xennith

Novice Member

Joined: 11/19/06
Posts: 1264

7/08/09 12:24:44 PM#15
Some people like to actually, you know, play the game.

 

This is some pretty good wow-kid beatdown right here.

 

Also, the advert is pretty accurate. You fuck up, and its your loss. Whats this about a "shaken playerbase" by the way? Is this some new spelling of "continually increasing"?

  Xennith

Novice Member

Joined: 11/19/06
Posts: 1264

7/08/09 12:27:03 PM#16
Originally posted by Vetarnias

logging in gives you no advantage whatsoever regarding the speed at which you gain skills.

Log in enough to make enough money to buy a set of level 5 implants and say that again. Anyhow, skillpoints are not levels. Approaching the game with that kind of mentality will end in probable failure.

  booboofinger

Novice Member

Joined: 3/24/09
Posts: 75

7/08/09 12:30:34 PM#17
Originally posted by Vetarnias

The problem isn't there; I'm sure the level-up-while-you-sleep idea is fine for people who don't have much time to play.  But the downside is that logging in gives you no advantage whatsoever regarding the speed at which you gain skills.  It does not go faster.  If you already have accomplished everything you wanted to do at your level, there is no need to bother logging in except to replenish your skills queue.

In my case, I'm sitting it out for a week because I have everything I need for my next stage, except the skills.

Logging in does not help you with skills, but skills are not all in EVE.
 

There is also money and standings with the different factions, and those you pretty much have to log in to get anywhere. In a lot of ways your standings are equivalent to levels in other games. The higher your standings with the NPC corps the better missions you are able to get.

And there is no such thing as "level" in EVE. Players are measured by how many and what level skills they have, not by what level they are.

  Ponico

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Joined: 2/01/06
Posts: 625

Can you imagine what I would do if I could do all I can?

- Sun Tsu

7/08/09 12:32:13 PM#18

First,

Hacking, scams and other gna gna gna doesn’t happen to everyone and most of time, it’s the victims fault for being stupid. EVE doesn’t forgive brain dead players. Everything you do in the game requires a bit of thinking from being a noob doing L1 missions to being a high sec miner fighting against can flippers.

There’s as much hacking, scam and crap in WOW, EQ2 or whatever MMO you can name. The only difference is that in EVE, it’s ONE server, so anything that happens there is universal… meaning: we all know about it.

EVE is a true sandbox, it’s pretty much what everyone seems to be dying to have until they realize that Freedom means; no rules.

People want Freedom and yet, when they have it, they cannot cope with it.

 

 

As for skills and level up. Well, no matter what ship you fly, you'll only use a portions of your skills. For example, if I'm flying an Interceptor, I'm obviously not using heavy Railguns T2 or armor plates 90 times the size of my ship. Therefore, my big uber skills are not being used. Even if I'm an 3+ year old player, a 3 month old player can fly an interceptor with almost everything maxed out. Which means, that in a 1 on 1, I'm probably going to win because of my experience in actual combat.

Older players have more options and can do more stuff... I can fly any Gallente ship at max skills, including a 250KM sniper BS. However, I know some folks that can sniper as well as me and are only a year old. The only difference with them and me is that I can dock, grab a deadnaught and head off.

 

on a last note, if you're going to play EVE solo... good luck

Join a good corporation and you're life on the game will feel less worthless. It took me a while get hooked to EVE but once i found my home, it's been a blast!

  PatchDay

Novice Member

Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 1645

7/08/09 1:10:27 PM#19

Is the OP trying to spell "scandals"?

  PatchDay

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Joined: 8/13/08
Posts: 1645

7/08/09 1:20:17 PM#20
Originally posted by Vetarnias

The problem isn't there; I'm sure the level-up-while-you-sleep idea is fine for people who don't have much time to play.  But the downside is that logging in gives you no advantage whatsoever regarding the speed at which you gain skills.  It does not go faster.  If you already have accomplished everything you wanted to do at your level, there is no need to bother logging in except to replenish your skills queue.

In my case, I'm sitting it out for a week because I have everything I need for my next stage, except the skills.

 

Skills here serve a different purpose from what you may be used to. What CCP is forcing players to do is specialize in certain areas. This way- not everyone can fly a titan for instance. Because not everyone will spend a year or whatever to train for it.

This way you do not see too many Titans floating around. This is just an -example-. There's ofc many other factors but that is one of them

 

Same way with manufacturing. Not everyone can build t2 gallente ships.

 

They are trying to force a strong player dependency. Pretty much impossible to be 100% self reliant at least for my purposes so this is why you have a strong bond between corpmates. For instance, the industrial backbone in my corp builds ships and vendors all my rat loot

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