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  Saerain

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7/08/09 12:03:04 PM#41
Originally posted by SaintViktor

Left4Dead Online anyone ?

 

Left∞Dead?

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  BoombadiL

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7/08/09 12:09:50 PM#42
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

The List needs more Id Software and Relic Entertainment. Homeworld MMO FTW.


 

Totally agree homeworld was such an awesome game, I think the z-axis confused some though, but i loved it and is still my favorite game to date (hmm probably tied with the first metroid).. 

  Gorrex

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7/08/09 12:30:11 PM#43

Unknown Worlds

 

Take Natural Selection, add more weapons, vehicles, city/hive building over a large world. Territorial control, multiple marine/alien factions.. I would be in heaven.

 

My dream game is a massive MMORPG/FPS/RTS. I've got the full design in my head, maybe one day I'll have the cash to pull it off.

  Khalathwyr

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7/08/09 1:17:00 PM#44
Originally posted by Thornrage
Originally posted by Khalathwyr
Originally posted by DarkRexx

It's a pretty good list, but now let's see a counter-article about the five companies that should NOT make an MMORPG.

My top 5.

5. Company that takes the safe route (level based, quest hub to quest hub with an "end-game")

4. Company that takes the safe route (level based, quest hub to quest hub with an "end-game")

3. Company that takes the safe route (level based, quest hub to quest hub with an "end-game")

2. Funcom

1. Sony Online Entertainment

Too bad you are way wrong with #2

Ever heard of Anarchy Online?  And "GASP" Age of Conan is actually a fun MMO.

When you grasp the concept of opinions and realize that others have different ones than you and that "wrong" has nothing to do with it, then we can have a grown up, mature conversation. *GASP* Fun for one group of people does not equate to fun for all.

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  Khalathwyr

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7/08/09 1:22:05 PM#45
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

The List needs more Id Software and Relic Entertainment. Homeworld MMO FTW.

ID Software doesn't exist anymore, or is about to not really exist. Zenimax, parent company of Bethesda, just bought out (or got funds approved to the sum of $105 million) Id.

Gamespot article

 

Zenimax is currently working on an as yet unnamed MMO. Gamespot article 2

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  User Deleted
7/08/09 1:22:23 PM#46
Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by ste2000

Not a very well done list IMO

Where is Bethesda?
If there is a studio which should make a MMO, that is the folks from Bethesda.

Also I don't see why Valve should make a MMO, why not ID Software for instance?
They make the same products but ID has much more experience than Valve.

 

the Bethesda issue has been discussed previously within this very thread. As to the why not ID software questions, I think I pretty clearly mentioned why I felt that Valve would be a good choice. it wasn't just about experience, it was about the kinds of games made.

You're allowed to disagree with my list. That's the point of them, but it may be helpful to read the accompanying text beyond just the headlines in order to get a sense of the substance of what was said.

At this point Valve has lost some popularity with LFD2 as well as charging full price for a bunch of game mods. Valves Engine is pretty much inferior to anything id can do as well as id being the leader in the genre when it comes to technology break throughs.

  User Deleted
7/08/09 1:25:09 PM#47
Originally posted by Khalathwyr
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

The List needs more Id Software and Relic Entertainment. Homeworld MMO FTW.

ID Software doesn't exist anymore, or is about to not really exist. Zenimax, parent company of Bethesda, just bought out (or got funds approved to the sum of $105 million) Id.

Gamespot article

 

Zenimax is currently working on an as yet unnamed MMO. Gamespot article 2

If you read the Article id will remain the same with John Carmack and company doing what they want. Having id and Bethesda under one roof, is emmense.

  fiontar

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7/08/09 1:29:40 PM#48

That two of the five are defunct studios that were swallowed up by bigger publisher and destroyed in the process really points to the biggest threat to the gaming industry in this era: The truly innovative studios almost always get gobbled up by bigger competition and the aquisistion is almost always bad for gamers and the industry.

SOE is largely a kiss of death for MMORPGs and EA has become the KoD for all sorts of software franchises.

Sometimes the smaller studios sell out because the alternative is bankruptcy,  but far too often it's greed and the promise of a quick buck selling what is already a modestly successful, innovative venture.

Stop selling out!

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  Khalathwyr

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7/08/09 1:38:24 PM#49
Originally posted by solareus
Originally posted by Khalathwyr
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

The List needs more Id Software and Relic Entertainment. Homeworld MMO FTW.

ID Software doesn't exist anymore, or is about to not really exist. Zenimax, parent company of Bethesda, just bought out (or got funds approved to the sum of $105 million) Id.

Gamespot article

 

Zenimax is currently working on an as yet unnamed MMO. Gamespot article 2

If you read the Article id will remain the same with John Carmack and company doing what they want. Having id and Bethesda under one roof, is emmense.

Ahh. Still, in light of Zenimax's MMO project I don't see ID attempting an MMO. Course, that's looking at this thread's posed question through the glasses of companies that are in a position to attempt such and only have them not deciding to do so yet as the remaining barrier. I'd think Zenimax would want ID to push out the types of games it's known for (and has on it's current in progress list) to earn back some or all of that $105 million before risking an MMO attempt.

But yeah, I guess I missed/ didn't comprehend where they'd still be autonomous.

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  XoloX

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7/08/09 1:42:44 PM#50
Originally posted by solareus

id software with rehiring of John Romero to make "Doom Online : Hell is just the Beginning" :D

Somehow my first thought on this was: Duke Nuke'em Online... ;-)

On second thought, though...: *darn* maybe I just revealed the true nature of that prime example of absurdity of the term "when it's done".


The company that first came to my mind even before reading the article was (also) Bethesda, indeed.


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  Khalathwyr

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7/08/09 2:26:27 PM#51
Originally posted by XoloX
Originally posted by solareus

id software with rehiring of John Romero to make "Doom Online : Hell is just the Beginning" :D

Somehow my first thought on this was: Duke Nuke'em Online... ;-)

On second thought, though...: *darn* maybe I just revealed the true nature of that prime example of absurdity of the term "when it's done".


The company that first came to my mind even before reading the article was (also) Bethesda, indeed.

Unless I missed it, I don't htink John Romero will be coming back to Id. Here was his Twitter on Zenimax buying out Id:

"ZENIMAX??????? Disgusting," he declared on his Twitter page, before going on to muse, "Fallout 3 bought DOOM. Wow."

 Course, he does go on to say his initial reaction was "harsh", so the bridge isn't totally burned. It's definetely charred and looking brittle, though.

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  nekollx

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7/08/09 3:15:36 PM#52
Originally posted by Vagrant_Zero

The List needs more Id Software and Relic Entertainment. Homeworld MMO FTW.

Oh. My. God. Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Airwren

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7/08/09 3:58:00 PM#53

Very nice list Jon!  For the first time I have to say that I can't disagree with anything you said. =P  God for the days of Sierra making an MMO.  If they make a police quest mmo, I'm pre-ordering the day it's announced. lol

  mindw0rk

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7/08/09 4:46:53 PM#54
Id like to see MMO from Katauri. It is russian team that made Space Rangers and new King's Bounty. Every game those guys make are amazing quality, hope they switch focus from single player to online
  Gorrex

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7/08/09 5:31:38 PM#55

True Katauri and other Russian/East Europe companies are definatley on the rise. They are getting very good funding (for their area) and do not have as many pupeteers (EA etc...) pulling their strings yet.

Keep an eye on out on any game coming from that area. They are all trying to push the envelope. (Some succeed greatly, others fail, others still don't get the attention they deserve)

Here's hoping they continue, and hopefully also force mainstream studios to innovate.

  Jetrpg

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7/08/09 5:54:11 PM#56

I cannot see any of those people making a good mmo, futhermore, if there was a studio i liked i sure as heck would tell them, " STAY OUT OF MMOS THEY ONLY RUIN THE GOOD."

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  Wizardry

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Remove quests,bosses and trigger them back in is called Dynamic events now?lol..i think not.

7/08/09 7:09:08 PM#57

The biggest,the baddest MICROSOFT !.They have everything to gain by making a hi quality game with hi specs.They not only get the fanbase because the game is of great quality,but they could monopolize it through XBOX and maybe some gaming chip that all PC's would need to run it.

Developers such as EPIC games,that sell their game engine ,would also benefit from the exposure of a great game.They have also shown great tech and a great series in the Unrealtournament series.So these guys understand tech and gaming.

Some of the devs like Blizzard are IMO no way capable .Luck once by copying another game,wil lnot happen again,peopel are to ofussy now and much more knowledgeable.Blizzard may have a following now ,and many blind people that think Blizzard can actually CREATE,but that will soon be a thing of the past.Their lack of creativity is never more obvious than the newest rehash of an old game like Starcraft.

SOE is still a giant willing to spend the bucks,so there is always the chance the ymight come up with a baddass game.

Square Enix has some brilliant creative minds,maybe the best in the industry,but i feel they are still stuck behind in technology,gaming in JPN tends to move slowly.Capcom ventured mainstream out of JPN,and now Square is openiong their doors to more varied gaming that tries to attract north americans as well as asians.

I think EA could easily create a great game,or have someone make it on their behalf,they have money and a lot of experience in all aspects of gaming,albeit they are famous for sports.

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  daeandor

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7/08/09 7:10:13 PM#58

I'd play a valve game.  Esp if it took the cool stuff from TF2, Portal, L4D, and HL series... oh how much fun would it be to have those combined into a massive pve and pvp world???  I'm drooling at the thought of TF2 taunts and deathcams in mmorpg pvp...

  Elemental

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7/08/09 8:52:13 PM#59

well if you want to talk about developers that are nolonger around an made sweet games and could have made a sweet mmo if there where around what about Westwood who is now owned by EA. and btw ea relly runes most stuff they make!

  mackdawg19

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7/08/09 9:01:53 PM#60
Originally posted by solareus

id got bought by the same folks who bought Bethesda, so it may happen. Carmack has had some bad luck of late because of the talentless game designers who are using his Engines :/.

His game engine development is simply the best in the entire gaming industry, his mind works in a way unknown to man. His mega texture Idea is brilliant and I feel we will be seeing that tech in mmos in the next 5 years.

 

You have got to be kidding me with this comment. Urban Terror, Wolfenstien, Warsow and plenty of other great mods have used the ID tech engine and have talented game designers behind them. Game mod teams also include OSP, 3wave, and RA teams. On top of that, Counterstrike was built using the Quake engine modified. Guess everyone has thier own opinion though ... heh. 

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