Yup.
This guy is a moderator for Av.

You can't get more fanboy then working for a company for free.

I really don't know what this thread is supposed to be about.
It's not even good trolling.

Originally posted by Thendil

the df server can support up to 50k players.

any more questions?

 

 Wait ...

50k is the number now? You arn't just raising the bar on me now, are you?

 Lets follow that train though, humor me. If the DF server can support 50k players, and they currently only have 17k... why are they releasing a new server? In addition to that ... surely 50k of the reported 300k+ beta subcribers would have purchased the game by now? You understand my reasoning, I hope, something is just not adding up. The numbers are not jiving..... and numbers do not lie. Could you please elaborate more on this 50k server cap, any official announcements with that in it? I have only seen the 10k cap.

Thanks,

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by hoopty

The Game is growing? Are you the record keeper?Where are you getting your info from?If you cant prove it by legal document then you no better than Taoes..= Liars

It's not even like these are hard names to spell. Aventurine is a precious gem, people have no reason to spell it "Adventurine" and I've seen a simple name, TASOS, spelled Tacos, Taoes, Toes, it's just sad. 

There is an in game log of how many people are playing, there were about 17k on last I checked I believe. So yeah, I'd say that's growing. And for those saying "That's nothing! WoW this and WoW that!" Darkfall was never meant to be anything more than a niche game, and considering it only cost about 10M euros to make, it won't take a hell of a long time to earn back and make a profit. Unlike Age of Conan, who is still in debt, with one of their companies already being bankrupt. 

No one wanted Darkfall to be another WoW clone, so long as there's enough population for fighting and competetive play, we're all happy. 

 

Screen shot or it never happened.

Not sure why you came here trolling, but as you've noted, we're better at it than you, so might as well head back to forum fall and play with your friends.

We don't even mind being labeled trolls, so not sure why you think the name hurts us in some way. It doesn't.

Though we prefer to call it open and honest discussion, you may name call all you like, won't change our opinions much.

You're in our world now..... hope you enjoy it.

There's an in-game log with the total number of online players? That's news to me and to anybody who's ever played the game, unless said log is available only to specific people, such as community staff, GMs, developers, etc...  There was a screen post launch, but it didn't accuratley show true online activity and it was removed from public viewing shortly, thereafter (I assume so as not to expose the low population). To the best of my knowledge, the only in-game indicator of membership is the clan journal which barely showed 15k the last time I tablulated the numbers.  Even that figure is misleading, since it was verified that the total clan count contained ex-players and deleted characters, thereby making the actual clan membership total lower (potentially much lower).

So, Signus, please post proof or would doing so further expose you as representing Aventurine in an unoffical capacity (since nobody else seems to have access to this mythical online membership log).  If the log exists and it legitimately shows 17k players, I believe it's total players, not online concurrent players (just like the log that was publicly viewable when the game first launched).  If that's the case, are the 17k players all players who've ever bought the game or active players only?  We'll probably never know, since it's unlikely you'll post any proof.

~Ripper

Originally posted by Thendil

the df server can support up to 50k players, like i said in a earlier statement in this topic the game costs 50 bucks you can not get a free trial! well many can not afford to buy a game without even testing it! On the other hand the NA server is about to launch

what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later! so ppl got scared about that...actually those where smart cause we have to buy a new copy now if we want to play at NA launch which kinda sucks but it is worth it!

 

For wow and the glory road!

do you have any idea how much staff Blizzard has Worldwide? no of course not.

we do not know how much staff AV actually has! i would guess around 3% of Blizz dream team?

any more questions?

 

Could we perchance get a link to the server supporting 50k concurrent subs statement?  If it is 50k total active subs, then it is an irrelevant statement and AV is in serious trouble (because that statement makes no sense).

Since you're speaking of items which Tacos brought up pre-retail release - he also stated (numerous times) that you would NEVER have to pay to play DF, without having first had the opportunity to try the game for free.

What does Blizzard's staff size have to do with anything we are discussing?

Originally posted by Thendil  

what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later!

Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.

-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)

Originally posted by Thendil

the df server can support up to 50k players, like i said in a earlier statement in this topic the game costs 50 bucks you can not get a free trial! well many can not afford to buy a game without even testing it! On the other hand the NA server is about to launch

what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later! so ppl got scared about that...actually those where smart cause we have to buy a new copy now if we want to play at NA launch which kinda sucks but it is worth it!

 

For wow and the glory road!

do you have any idea how much staff Blizzard has Worldwide? no of course not.

we do not know how much staff AV actually has! i would guess around 3% of Blizz dream team?

any more questions?

 

I have a question.

WHAT!?

Originally posted by rhinok

Originally posted by Kyleran

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by hoopty

The Game is growing? Are you the record keeper?Where are you getting your info from?If you cant prove it by legal document then you no better than Taoes..= Liars

It's not even like these are hard names to spell. Aventurine is a precious gem, people have no reason to spell it "Adventurine" and I've seen a simple name, TASOS, spelled Tacos, Taoes, Toes, it's just sad. 

There is an in game log of how many people are playing, there were about 17k on last I checked I believe. So yeah, I'd say that's growing. And for those saying "That's nothing! WoW this and WoW that!" Darkfall was never meant to be anything more than a niche game, and considering it only cost about 10M euros to make, it won't take a hell of a long time to earn back and make a profit. Unlike Age of Conan, who is still in debt, with one of their companies already being bankrupt. 

No one wanted Darkfall to be another WoW clone, so long as there's enough population for fighting and competetive play, we're all happy. 

 

Screen shot or it never happened.

Not sure why you came here trolling, but as you've noted, we're better at it than you, so might as well head back to forum fall and play with your friends.

We don't even mind being labeled trolls, so not sure why you think the name hurts us in some way. It doesn't.

Though we prefer to call it open and honest discussion, you may name call all you like, won't change our opinions much.

You're in our world now..... hope you enjoy it.

There's an in-game log with the total number of online players? That's news to me and to anybody who's ever played the game, unless said log is available only to specific people, such as community staff, GMs, developers, etc...  There was a screen post launch, but it didn't accuratley show true online activity and it was removed from public viewing shortly, thereafter (I assume so as not to expose the low population). To the best of my knowledge, the only in-game indicator of membership is the clan journal which barely showed 15k the last time I tablulated the numbers.  Even that figure is misleading, since it was verified that the total clan count contained ex-players and deleted characters, thereby making the actual clan membership total lower (potentially much lower).

So, Signus, please post proof or would doing so further expose you as representing Aventurine in an unoffical capacity (since nobody else seems to have access to this mythical online membership log).  If the log exists and it legitimately shows 17k players, I believe it's total players, not online concurrent players (just like the log that was publicly viewable when the game first launched).  If that's the case, are the 17k players all players who've ever bought the game or active players only?  We'll probably never know, since it's unlikely you'll post any proof.

~Ripper

I remember the op of this thread made a statement about funcom employees doing some negative viral posting?  So, if we look down upon people doing negative viralling; then, what do we do about people attempting to do smart-assed viralling?

you ppl are not making it easy for me!!!

AV has limited Server Capacity to support Siege battles and so on...

i never said that the server can only hold 10k players!

Now here are the Facts for the EU server and the NA server:

first here is a link to the expansion that is put in the game right now! That is  the reason why the hype is up again on the forums about Darkfall!

http://www.darkfallonline.com/expansion/

The EU Launch was the actual...uhm us DF peeps call it payed Open Beta Launch!

With the NA Server you can think of as a relaunch or actual Game Launch. example Vanguard opened free trials Island which was a actual relaunch by the Devs Statements!

counting Clan members wont help yeh! there are alot of lone wolfs in the game and the clan members count is in some cases not up to date

This thread needs deleted.  "I TOLD YOU SO" threads are against the rules and considered harrassment. 

Originally posted by mrroboto40

Originally posted by Thendil  

what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later!

 

Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.

-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)

Originally posted by Fariic

You can't get more fanboy then working for a company for free.

Yes they can: start paying the company in order to work for them

but i should better stop here rather  giving Tasos any more "brilliant" ideas

Originally posted by mrroboto40

Originally posted by Thendil  

what tasos said when before the game launched was that NA players can buy a EU copy and play on the EU server and will be able to transfer to NA server later!

 

Nought from the Greeks towards me hath sped well.
So now I find that ancient proverb true,
Foes' gifts are no gifts: profit bring they none.

-Sophocles (496 - 406 BC)

Post of the day

Originally posted by Thendil

you ppl are not making it easy for me!!!

AV has limited Server Capacity to support Siege battles and so on...

i never said that the server can only hold 10k players!

Now here are the Facts for the EU server and the NA server:

first here is a link to the expansion that is put in the game right now! That is  the reason why the hype is up again on the forums about Darkfall!

http://www.darkfallonline.com/expansion/

The EU Launch was the actual...uhm us DF peeps call it payed Open Beta Launch!

With the NA Server you can think of as a relaunch or actual Game Launch. example Vanguard opened free trials Island which was a actual relaunch by the Devs Statements!

 

  Can someone please dig up old posts in regards to the "Capacity limits" which were set by Aventurine? I have always heard/read 10,000.

 You are still not addressing the implication that if the Server Capacity is at 50k, and a Mod states 17k currently ( how he obtained this information  is questionable ) how Aventurine justifys opening a second server.

 This is the point of my trip on these forums today, to point out the glaring problems with the "Number game" that is being waged by -Both- sides of the arguement. Without factual data, backed by official releases every number quote is meer speculation. If we judge by released information, official information, the Server capacity and then make informed speculations on the games subcription base or active players things begin to blur. I question the validity of 17k subcribers, even playing devils advocate and allowing said subcriber speculation, points to a glaring disparity on where this game should be to justify a new server.

 You could make all this speculation go away if you or anyone would simply state that Aventurine recieved addtional funds and is increasing their base market. THAT I would understand perfectly, but as to date we only hear speculation of finacial failure and to judge based on their  EU "Publisher" ... lets just say people are not lining up to back this indie firm.

Originally posted by Thendil

counting Clan members wont help yeh! there are alot of lone wolfs in the game and the clan members count is in some cases not up to date

If you are unable to speak to the points I raised; then, perhaps the person (our op in this case) who mentioned 17k players in the log, CAN?

Op?

Originally posted by jimmyman99

I see the troll is strong within you...

When I first came to this forum to read about Darkfall I was shocked. It wasn`t any discussion about the game at all, only a flow of vaporvare posts. I was amazed by the effort some made to make a small indie company look bad. I also wondered what kind of mmo`s those "haters" accually played.

Finding the trolls are really easy in mmorpg.com. I just press the posters name, look at his profile page and his recent forum posts. You will see that the trolls have page after page of attacks on Darkfall, and hardly anything on other forums. You Jimmiman99 are a troll. Not the worst troll in here, but still a troll. Just check your forum post, all of you. If your post are about a game you have never played or have no intention of playing you are a troll.

I honestly don`t understand why you do it, as I would never spend my time flaming hello kitty. It`s a really sad thing to do, and your mmo (if you have any) must be really boring if you waiste this amount of time on a mmo with 10k players.

Beside, we don`t need you to tell us what the flaws of Darkfall is. We know what it is because we play it. I do look forward to a forum that consist of real Darkfall players. And have no fear, we will flame everything we don`t like in Darkfall.

ok i am sorry but this just sounds stupid now! if you did not follow the game why do you even post in here?

they must have the funds to improve the game cause nobody threw the damn NA server in there face!!

i just tried to explain to you guys why there are not 300 k Players in DF! that is all! The players that are there talk sometimes about how many are actually suscribed but! most of us do not care every pvp game has it's hot zones DF has many of them. just experiencing the Full Loot system is worth 50 bucks!

Originally posted by Hotjazz

Originally posted by jimmyman99

I see the troll is strong within you...

 

When I first came to this forum to read about Darkfall I was shocked. It wasn`t any discussion about the game at all, only a flow of vaporvare posts. I was amazed by the effort some made to make a small indie company look bad. I also wondered what kind of mmo`s those "haters" accually played.

 

Finding the trolls are really easy in mmorpg.com. I just press the posters name, look at his profile page and his recent forum posts. You will see that the trolls have page after page of attacks on Darkfall, and hardly anything on other forums. You Jimmiman99 are a troll. Not the worst troll in here, but still a troll. Just check your forum post, all of you. If your post are about a game you have never played or have no intention of playing you are a troll.

 

I honestly don`t understand why you do it, as I would never spend my time flaming hello kitty. It`s a really sad thing to do, and your mmo (if you have any) must be really boring if you waiste this amount of time on a mmo with 10k players.

 

Beside, we don`t need you to tell us what the flaws of Darkfall is. We know what it is because we play it. I do look forward to a forum that consist of real Darkfall players. And have no fear, we will flame everything we don`t like in Darkfall.

Please refrain from insulting HKO and it's fans.  At no point have I seen fans of HKO swarm and spam every forum they can find - with nonsense about how HKO is better than all games ever to be created.

With that in mind, and the amount of trolling done by DF fans (still to this day, especially with the rabid lying which often accompanies some of the pro-DF trollpostings), I would think long and hard about how fitting your post is to many representatives of the DF community, starting with the OP, and moving on down thru this very thread even.

Originally posted by Damian_ACK

Originally posted by Thendil

counting Clan members wont help yeh! there are alot of lone wolfs in the game and the clan members count is in some cases not up to date

 

If you are unable to speak to the points I raised; then, perhaps the person (our op in this case) who mentioned 17k players in the log, CAN?

 

Op?

why do you think he is not posting anymore?

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by jimmyman99

Originally posted by SignusM

Originally posted by Aguitha

game is growing ? LOL yeah right.  This game is destin to be the next dark and light.

I see the trolls are still strong with this one.  Many of the same people who swore the game didn't exist are still bashing it now. Wonder if they even ever played it or gave it a chance, or were ever interested. Ah well, guess you can't teach a troll new tricks. Same exact people in 2007 screaming Aventurine was working with Gmod are now blathering on about nonsense still. Cute :)

 

Read a majority of the posts, most of them are completely uninformed, and many of them are just hate/anger mongering for no apparent reason. A few good points were brought up though. Sadly, this is the story of the game. Dig through a pile of garbage to find some actual information. Thanks trolls.

 

Despite whatever you might want to say, despite how many times you said it would never happened, the game launched in a stable state, with the vast majority of promised features (85%ish) and no amount of trolling will change that. And yes, subscriptions are growing, hence why a new server is being opened. 

I see the troll is strong within you...

I do not see how a game, having 10-20K active players 5 months after release qualifies for a victory dance. I would say its the other way around -a fiasco, a failure, and big one at that. I cannot see any MMO business model to hold on long on these numbers. But what do I know, I haven't even played the game to know that MMORPG needs more then 20K people to be successful. I must be a hater cause I said something bad about something that you love and cherish so much, it makes your mother jealous.

I guess you've never heard of a small little game called Eve Online. They operate in a very similar fashion actually... Server farm that keeps getting upgraded, steady growth over several years, free expansions every several months or so. They are now one of the most successful MMOs out there. Whereas you have WAR that gets a million subs, then down to 300k, Age of Conan 800k down to like, 90k. Darkfall started small and is growing, just like Eve. Seems the healthiest busniess model so far, if you want to argue that. 

Darkfall is a small indie niche game, it's numbers are strong and growing. It's not supposed to compare with WoW, or else it probably wouldn't attract as many er.. passionate, people. You're just as misguided as all the other trolls who think they've made a point, when instead they've just proven they don't know anything about the game. 

 

And for the post underneath you, oh I KNEW this post would attract trolls, infact I said exactly that. Guess your reading comprehension fails pretty hard, no wonder you don't know anything about Darkfall. 

Woah woah wOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

You WISH the game was growing. Initially Darkfall sold about 10,000 "pre-orders" and then continued to sell 1K-2K per week after they fixed the store. At some point the game probably had more than 60K subscriptions, until players started getting screwed, people started hacking, macroing became the new Beatles, and the customer support pretty much told everyone who contacted them to F-off.

I played the game from start till about 3 months into it. My ENTIRE guild loved this game and so did I. It had it's flaws sure but we were having fun. That is until we ran into a group of hackers that killed us naked when we were in full gear. That was before we were constantly attacked while hunting mobs by naked speed hackers. That was until one of our members was banned because THEIR game glitched and let reds into towns and he was killing them and THEY reported him for hacking.

The entire guild decided to quit Darkfall for many reasons. I've seen recent videos of Darkfall PvP and it looks like Counter Strike on crack. People jumping all over, shooting arrows with no stopping except to get more stam from magic. Running around in full plate and shooting arrows and magic like there is no ecumberance. It's absolutely ridiculous looking and a game that supports that kind of play is only going to fail.

Sorry