I hope people keep cancelling in Asia until they wisen up. Buying of video sites to censor is disgusting.

That is all, just doing my part.

Flame on.

Have no clue what you mean but if I were NCSoft and there were videos of how to hack a product I made, i sure as hell would delete them instantly and I for one would appreciate it. I would rather not have those types of videos up and available to teach others how to do it.

Originally posted by Bastioni

I hope people keep cancelling in Asia until they wisen up. Buying of video sites to censor is disgusting.

That is all, just doing my part.

Flame on.

lol ncsoft trying to get rid of those video makes me lol

i used to use stream that site was targeted by microsoft ,google etc then film industry

was shut down at the most 1 week later same groupe opened another site in a remote part of the world

now good luck trying shutting them down

the only thing it does when you try to shut video down instead of correcting game 

you make sutation even more underground

microsoft and google chrome go at it another way

if say they cant touch an iligall site they block the site from acces

i had ton of site i could not acces, was wondering why ,yep google and microsoft filtered those  website

no wonder new web browser are so popular lol

Originally posted by Bastioni

I hope people keep cancelling in Asia until they wisen up. Buying of video sites to censor is disgusting.

That is all, just doing my part.

Flame on.

You mean all those people in Asia that are running hacks?

Flame off.

Yeah, let's just allow all how-to hack and what-hacks-do videos to remain online, because they speed up the process of fixing current flaws in the code that allow hacking... not.

If the videos get reposted underground, that's where they deserve to be, not on the main video streamers.

So much for Gameguard...

Originally posted by korat102

So much for Gameguard...

 

your absolutly right

gameguard look very bad in aion situation

im beginning to think that maybe silkroad online was right when they stopped paying game guard

with or without gameguard theres not more or less bad stuff in the game its exacly the same so what is gameguard good for then lol

it looks good

client-side anti-cheat is so win for hacks :)

Originally posted by SonikFlash

client-side anti-cheat is so win for hacks :)

yup bad coding.. game lacks a lot in that departement imo.. but that will be obvious to all sooner or later.. they just delaying it.. the truth always wins.

part of the biggest issue with the hacking is the gameguard they use. It is supposed to work like warden from blizz, but is easily tricked. Once they have a better anti-hack measure up, and in game people to report it just like in other games the stuff will be addressed. There is hacking in every game so don't kid yourself.

For 3 months in WoW a hack existed that allowed hunters to teleport around all 3 dire maul instances at a high Z axis allowing full loot to kills and no damage ever returned. It tanked the economies of all servers, and was a terrible problem, but blizzard finally fixed the issue and all was well.

I won't defend games that are slow or unresponsive, but to act like aion is the only game with bad hacks is silly. Yeah the inserted scripts are pretty bad when it comes to the speed hack as that should easily be traceable it isn't atm and I am sure they will work on it as they progress.

The worst hack I can remember was in Ultima Online with just duping anything, and pulling outside game files in game allowing someone to have a curser locked down in their house.

It happens, and people either move on or they stay. Just look at darkfall for example, there are videos of people stealing boats and flying them through mountains, and people still avidly defend that garbage. Have fun, and play or don't. No one is forcing you to play any game at any time.

Originally posted by namelessbob

part of the biggest issue with the hacking is the gameguard they use. It is supposed to work like warden from blizz, but is easily tricked. Once they have a better anti-hack measure up, and in game people to report it just like in other games the stuff will be addressed. There is hacking in every game so don't kid yourself.

 

For 3 months in WoW a hack existed that allowed hunters to teleport around all 3 dire maul instances at a high Z axis allowing full loot to kills and no damage ever returned. It tanked the economies of all servers, and was a terrible problem, but blizzard finally fixed the issue and all was well.

I won't defend games that are slow or unresponsive, but to act like aion is the only game with bad hacks is silly. Yeah the inserted scripts are pretty bad when it comes to the speed hack as that should easily be traceable it isn't atm and I am sure they will work on it as they progress.

 

The worst hack I can remember was in Ultima Online with just duping anything, and pulling outside game files in game allowing someone to have a curser locked down in their house.

It happens, and people either move on or they stay. Just look at darkfall for example, there are videos of people stealing boats and flying them through mountains, and people still avidly defend that garbage. Have fun, and play or don't. No one is forcing you to play any game at any time.

 

the problem is often gameguard

and if ncsoft rely on them and gameguard cant find ways to stop hack ncsoft should just do like silkroad

they dont pay gameguard anymore .why should they the game is hacked weter they  pay gameguard or not might as well work on a inhouse solution instead of bothering with 3 party who in the end dont prevent hack

Originally posted by namelessbob

part of the biggest issue with the hacking is the gameguard they use. It is supposed to work like warden from blizz, but is easily tricked. Once they have a better anti-hack measure up, and in game people to report it just like in other games the stuff will be addressed. There is hacking in every game so don't kid yourself.

 

For 3 months in WoW a hack existed that allowed hunters to teleport around all 3 dire maul instances at a high Z axis allowing full loot to kills and no damage ever returned. It tanked the economies of all servers, and was a terrible problem, but blizzard finally fixed the issue and all was well.

I won't defend games that are slow or unresponsive, but to act like aion is the only game with bad hacks is silly. Yeah the inserted scripts are pretty bad when it comes to the speed hack as that should easily be traceable it isn't atm and I am sure they will work on it as they progress.

 

The worst hack I can remember was in Ultima Online with just duping anything, and pulling outside game files in game allowing someone to have a curser locked down in their house.

It happens, and people either move on or they stay. Just look at darkfall for example, there are videos of people stealing boats and flying them through mountains, and people still avidly defend that garbage. Have fun, and play or don't. No one is forcing you to play any game at any time.

 

I agree with most everything you've said. 

We're not the developers we can only share our experiences and let others do with them what they will.

Originally posted by SonikFlash

Originally posted by namelessbob

part of the biggest issue with the hacking is the gameguard they use. It is supposed to work like warden from blizz, but is easily tricked. Once they have a better anti-hack measure up, and in game people to report it just like in other games the stuff will be addressed. There is hacking in every game so don't kid yourself.

 

For 3 months in WoW a hack existed that allowed hunters to teleport around all 3 dire maul instances at a high Z axis allowing full loot to kills and no damage ever returned. It tanked the economies of all servers, and was a terrible problem, but blizzard finally fixed the issue and all was well.

I won't defend games that are slow or unresponsive, but to act like aion is the only game with bad hacks is silly. Yeah the inserted scripts are pretty bad when it comes to the speed hack as that should easily be traceable it isn't atm and I am sure they will work on it as they progress.

 

The worst hack I can remember was in Ultima Online with just duping anything, and pulling outside game files in game allowing someone to have a curser locked down in their house.

It happens, and people either move on or they stay. Just look at darkfall for example, there are videos of people stealing boats and flying them through mountains, and people still avidly defend that garbage. Have fun, and play or don't. No one is forcing you to play any game at any time.

 

I agree with most everything you've said. 

We're not the developers we can only share our experiences and let others do with them what they will.

not to troll or anything, but back on this topic, the betaboards had this very same issue in the suggestion box, some 10-15 pages i believe of people asking for gameguard to be removed....food for thought

Instead of wasting money trying to stomp out videos..oh gosh....maybe they should use that revenue to better police/clean up their game? Dunno just a thought....

Either way it shouldn't effect NA players.

For myself its good to see an original troll post. Im very weary of the "wow with wings" and " asian anime" stuff. Good job OP, you earned yoru cookie.

Originally posted by Bastioni

I hope people keep cancelling in Asia until they wisen up. Buying of video sites to censor is disgusting.

That is all, just doing my part.

Flame on.

I agree that informing the player base is the most efficient way,it is a good way to FORCE the developer to act.However it is also a bad thing ,because there is always lurking in the dark,several new wannabe cheaters,who will be all over any posted sites.

There is no real answer to favor either side.The thing is this,if the players complain for a long enough time and no action has been taken,in other words no effort at all by the developer,then it is time to FORCE their hand by posting the cheat sites for all to see the problem.Sure it may make the problem even worse,but that sometimes is the ONLY way to force a developer to get off their lazy asses and do something.

I have no longer been supporting P2P games,i do not like to pay them for their laziness and don't care attitude.Sure F2P games are often worse,but at least i am not supporting it by paying money.

The other way to force a developers hand is by mass exodus,if tons start canceling accounts and leaving a reason why,the message will hit home loud and clear.Sooner or later game cheating,witch btw is of epidemic proportions,will be looked at seriously when all developers are designing their games.It is an even worse epidemic when you include PVP into the fold,because it can totally ruin a game,to unplayable standards.