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  popinjay

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7/05/09 11:12:01 AM#21


Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by slaphappy33

Just checked FoxNews.com. It's 9:30 pm on the 4th, and there is ZERO mention of any "teabag" celebrations anywhere in the U.S.
Utterly irrelevant.


 
TEA Party activists rally at Capitol
Second story on the CNN politics page. Not mentioned at all on their main page, but the few stories available are out there.




"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Instead of celebrating the Fourth of July holiday with barbecues and sparklers, about 2,000 small-government advocates, toting signs and chanting slogans, rallied outside the U.S. Capitol Saturday.


In Washington, people held signs saying "End the Fed," "No Socialism," and "I'll keep the freedom, you keep the change," in reference to Obama's campaign buzzword."


I know.. it's not size that matters, right? It's how you use it. :)

  porgie

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7/05/09 1:17:53 PM#22

My family was going to go to the one in Dallas at SouthFork Ranch, but when we went outside and it was 104 degrees, we decided otherwise.

I think a lot of it had to do with the weather here in Dallas yesterday.  Because I can't imagine we were the only ones who turned around and went back into the air conditioning.  It was horribly hot.

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  sepher

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7/05/09 1:32:36 PM#23
Originally posted by porgie

My family was going to go to the one in Dallas at SouthFork Ranch, but when we went outside and it was 104 degrees, we decided otherwise.

I think a lot of it had to do with the weather here in Dallas yesterday.  Because I can't imagine we were the only ones who turned around and went back into the air conditioning.  It was horribly hot.


 

Yeeeah, I imagine that's the typical commitment to the "movement".

Maybe in Autumn we'll really show Obama we mean business.

  popinjay

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7/05/09 3:46:15 PM#24


Originally posted by sepher

Originally posted by porgie

My family was going to go to the one in Dallas at SouthFork Ranch, but when we went outside and it was 104 degrees, we decided otherwise.
I think a lot of it had to do with the weather here in Dallas yesterday.  Because I can't imagine we were the only ones who turned around and went back into the air conditioning.  It was horribly hot.


 
Yeeeah, I imagine that's the typical commitment to the "movement".
Maybe in Autumn we'll really show Obama we mean business.


Nah, can't do it in Autumn.


That's when football season starts, and around the South Fork and in Texas, football is a religion. Then there's the Cowboys and Texans to watch, along with all the high school and "Hook'em Horns!" games to attend.

I'd guess they'll shoot for December to show Obama they are still mad and this is their number one priority. It's much cooler and the playoffs will be determined by then. All the college bowl games and playoffs are mostly all over after Thanksgiving.

December sounds good. Obama... watch out!

  BaronJuJu

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7/05/09 5:54:32 PM#25
Originally posted by popinjay

 

 

 

 

I know.. it's not size that matters, right? It's how you use it. :)


 

The funny, yet sad part about this is there are more stories on former DC Mayor Marrion Barry than these "Tea Parties"  right now. Barry even made the front page on CNN's US edition, something none of those "protests" did. I guess the coolness factor wore off with the news.

"If we don't attack them, they will attack us first. So we'd better retaliate before they have a chance to strike"

  popinjay

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7/05/09 6:43:25 PM#26


Originally posted by BaronJuJu

Originally posted by popinjay

 
 
 
 
I know.. it's not size that matters, right? It's how you use it. :)


 
The funny, yet sad part about this is there are more stories on former DC Mayor Marrion Barry than these "Tea Parties"  right now. Barry even made the front page on CNN's US edition, something none of those "protests" did. I guess the coolness factor wore off with the news.



Agreed. I have no idea why Barry is news. His personal story is as old as Miami Vice and I doubt if half of the people on these forums even know who he is.

Someone even regurgitated this Barry story in here on these forums as if that's newsworthy. *Sigh*.

  Chieftan

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7/05/09 7:20:53 PM#27

The one in Washington, MO had a good turnout.  One of my coworkers went.  Its wasn't a republican event.

  porgie

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7/05/09 9:15:20 PM#28
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by porgie

My family was going to go to the one in Dallas at SouthFork Ranch, but when we went outside and it was 104 degrees, we decided otherwise.

I think a lot of it had to do with the weather here in Dallas yesterday.  Because I can't imagine we were the only ones who turned around and went back into the air conditioning.  It was horribly hot.


 

Yeeeah, I imagine that's the typical commitment to the "movement".

Maybe in Autumn we'll really show Obama we mean business.

Yeeeah, we have a newborn baby.  My commitment does not extend to carrying my newborn out into the heat and sacrificing it's life.

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  popinjay

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7/05/09 9:51:25 PM#29


Originally posted by Chieftan
The one in Washington, MO had a good turnout.  One of my coworkers went.  Its wasn't a republican event.


This is video coverage from that Washington, Mo (pop. 13,243) teabagger rally you said had a "good turnout". You have about as many that went to the Missouri event as went to the Washington, DC event. 2000 people. The guy in the video who filmed the crowd even said so.


"Just so you get the sense, so when "they" tell you that there's 30 people that showed up. I'm guessing about... two to three thousand at least. I'll try to do a full account a little bit later..."

Perspective always looks funny when people want something to work. Right now you have about 100k Warhammer fanbois that are convinced it's a success and that people are online all the time and there's no population problems. Because they play on the three fullest servers.

This is spite of the evidence that the game is is trouble. But I guess when people really love something, everyone else is wrong so for them, Warhammer is a great game and is a hit. In reality, it could fold by Christmas.

I guess you are right that it was a "good turnout" for a town that hardly has any population or anything else near it going on that day. Probably the best thing socially to do locally yesterday until the fireworks at night.


  Scubie67

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7/05/09 10:22:39 PM#30

When people start filing their tax returns next year there will be plenty of people at these rallies due to all this crazy legislation Obama is trying to push through.

  porgie

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7/06/09 12:25:52 AM#31

I have a solution to all these tax problems.

All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.

The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!

 

It's a win/win situation!

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  Dekron

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7/06/09 12:44:03 AM#32
Originally posted by porgie

I have a solution to all these tax problems.

All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.

The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!

 

It's a win/win situation!

Although you jest, what you propose is a valid solution. Those who support social programs should be taxed for them and be able to take part in them - those who do not should have the option to "opt out" and not be allowed to take part.

For example, "universal health care". You should be able to opt in or out. If you wish to opt in, you will be "covered" under the plan, if you opt out, you are not taxed for it. It's fair.

By the way, I don't agree with you that the relevant market here is health care. You're not regulating health care. You're regulating insurance. It's the insurance market that you're addressing and you're saying that some people who are not in it must be in it, and that's -- that's different from regulating in any manner commerce that already exists out there. - Scalia

  Ekibiogami

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7/06/09 12:48:59 AM#33
Originally posted by Dekron
Originally posted by porgie

I have a solution to all these tax problems.

All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.

The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!

 

It's a win/win situation!

Although you jest, what you propose is a valid solution. Those who support social programs should be taxed for them and be able to take part in them - those who do not should have the option to "opt out" and not be allowed to take part.

For example, "universal health care". You should be able to opt in or out. If you wish to opt in, you will be "covered" under the plan, if you opt out, you are not taxed for it. It's fair.

Add Social Security to this and Im game. at 30 Id still Come out a head letting them keep everything Ive put in so far... :)
 

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
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  sepher

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7/06/09 1:03:27 AM#34
Originally posted by porgie
Originally posted by sepher
Originally posted by porgie

My family was going to go to the one in Dallas at SouthFork Ranch, but when we went outside and it was 104 degrees, we decided otherwise.

I think a lot of it had to do with the weather here in Dallas yesterday.  Because I can't imagine we were the only ones who turned around and went back into the air conditioning.  It was horribly hot.


 

Yeeeah, I imagine that's the typical commitment to the "movement".

Maybe in Autumn we'll really show Obama we mean business.

Yeeeah, we have a newborn baby.  My commitment does not extend to carrying my newborn out into the heat and sacrificing it's life.


 

Doesn't matter to me if you didn't go because you wanted the a/c or because you didn't want to bother asking someone else in the house to babysit; the commitment is still probably about the same as the others. No need to bring up the health of your baby, I'm sure you manage to leave the house during the summer some days,  I'm merely pointing out on that day you didn't have the commitment to bother; like a lot of other teabaggers or whatever they're formally called.

  Chieftan

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7/06/09 9:38:47 AM#35
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by Chieftan
The one in Washington, MO had a good turnout.  One of my coworkers went.  Its wasn't a republican event.

 


This is video coverage from that Washington, Mo (pop. 13,243) teabagger rally you said had a "good turnout". You have about as many that went to the Missouri event as went to the Washington, DC event. 2000 people. The guy in the video who filmed the crowd even said so.


"Just so you get the sense, so when "they" tell you that there's 30 people that showed up. I'm guessing about... two to three thousand at least. I'll try to do a full account a little bit later..."

 

 

 

Perspective always looks funny when people want something to work. Right now you have about 100k Warhammer fanbois that are convinced it's a success and that people are online all the time and there's no population problems. Because they play on the three fullest servers.

 

This is spite of the evidence that the game is is trouble. But I guess when people really love something, everyone else is wrong so for them, Warhammer is a great game and is a hit. In reality, it could fold by Christmas.

 

 

 

 

I guess you are right that it was a "good turnout" for a town that hardly has any population or anything else near it going on that day. Probably the best thing socially to do locally yesterday until the fireworks at night.

 

 

 

You've got proof in front of you but you're too small to admit that alot more than 30 people showed up.  Typical liberal.  Wanna pay my taxes?

  popinjay

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7/06/09 9:46:27 AM#36


Originally posted by Chieftan

 
You've got proof in front of you but you're too small to admit that alot more than 30 people showed up.  Typical liberal.  Wanna pay my taxes?


There is proof that around 2,000 people showed up to that event. That is a "good turnout", for a town that has 13,243 people in it. Anywhere else 2,000 people isn't much of anything. More people died in an hour on 9/11 than that; this is simply not newsworthy. Which goes to the original post's points.


Where most of Americans live, 2,000 people is chicken feed. I'm just giving you the actual reality of numbers not trying to insult your quaint town.

  Ihmotepp

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7/06/09 12:28:04 PM#37
Originally posted by porgie

I have a solution to all these tax problems.

All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.

The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!

 

It's a win/win situation!

 

People that want more taxes and social programs don't want to actually pay themselves. For themselves they want exemptions and tax credits. It's those OTHER rich people that are evil, not the Saintly rich people like Al Gore. The Evil rich should pay more taxes, and THOSE taxes should be used on social programs.

  popinjay

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7/06/09 1:28:37 PM#38


Originally posted by porgie
I have a solution to all these tax problems.
All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.
The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!
 
It's a win/win situation!

I like this idea. I really do.


And in return, the greedy, offshore account hiding, overcharging non-tax paying corporate types and "no socialist tax" crybaby illiterates aren't allowed to drive on any interstate highways, state highways, county or local roads through the United States since they didn't pay for them with taxes. If they want to drive from New York to L.A., they must offroad it the whole way.

These whiners cannot also use the Federal mail system since they don't pay taxes.


They also cannot have their kids using any libraries since they think they are a waste of taxpayer dollars. They also must pay the FULL price for any state or community college they want to attend or send their kids to, since those are subsidy funded by taxes and certainly, absolutely, positively.. no PELL grants for non-taxpayers. Good luck with your "higher education". They must also home school.. they didn't pay taxes, can't send their kids to the local elementary, middle or high schools.

They can't have firemen put out their houses unless they first show the emergency responders a tax receipt for local, state and federal taxes paid. Once they've shown it, they can get water on their house or recieve some CPR.


When they call 911.. oh wait.. they didn't pay their local taxes which FUND 911.. no 911 for them. When they call the REGULAR police telephone number and after being put on hold and they finally get through to the dispatcher, they must come up in the computer as having taxes paid up-to-date or that guy who stole their pickup won't get collared, or the police will refuse to search for their Amber alert child.


This is a win/win scenario!

  Scubie67

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7/06/09 2:28:36 PM#39

 

Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by porgie
I have a solution to all these tax problems.
All the liberal folks who love paying their taxes and believe that the government is the best outlet for social repair can join the "Adopt A Libertarian" program.
The idea is really simple and it makes both parties in the contract completely happy.  The liberal tax paying loving individual agrees to take on the taxes of the Libertarian American.  The Libertarian American in turn is freed from all the oppressive taxation he has imposed on him and his family and the the liberal gets to enjoy the fun they get out of paying taxes TWICE as much!!!
 
It's a win/win situation!

 

I like this idea. I really do.


And in return, the greedy, offshore account hiding, overcharging non-tax paying corporate types and "no socialist tax" crybaby illiterates aren't allowed to drive on any interstate highways, state highways, county or local roads through the United States since they didn't pay for them with taxes. If they want to drive from New York to L.A., they must offroad it the whole way.

 

 

These whiners cannot also use the Federal mail system since they don't pay taxes.

 


They also cannot have their kids using any libraries since they think they are a waste of taxpayer dollars. They also must pay the FULL price for any state or community college they want to attend or send their kids to, since those are subsidy funded by taxes and certainly, absolutely, positively.. no PELL grants for non-taxpayers. Good luck with your "higher education". They must also home school.. they didn't pay taxes, can't send their kids to the local elementary, middle or high schools.

 

 

They can't have firemen put out their houses unless they first show the emergency responders a tax receipt for local, state and federal taxes paid. Once they've shown it, they can get water on their house or recieve some CPR.

 

 


When they call 911.. oh wait.. they didn't pay their local taxes which FUND 911.. no 911 for them. When they call the REGULAR police telephone number and after being put on hold and they finally get through to the dispatcher, they must come up in the computer as having taxes paid up-to-date or that guy who stole their pickup won't get collared, or the police will refuse to search for their Amber alert child.

 


This is a win/win scenario!

I am sure glad everyone in Obama's administration pay their taxes..err wait.

 Well at least Charles Wrangle pays his ...uhh
 

  popinjay

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7/06/09 2:31:24 PM#40


Originally posted by Scubie67

I am sure glad everyone in Obama's administration pay their taxes..err wait.

 Well at least Charles Wrangle pays his ...uhh
 


Side issue. Has nothing to do with this thread.

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