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  popinjay

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7/03/09 10:15:28 AM#1

1. The weather will be nice in most of the United States. Most sane people would rather do something else with their families than stand in front of the Post Office with signs circle jerking with complete strangers.

2. It was a fad attended by bored people. It's like any other "fad". Pet rocks, mood rings, Million Man marches... the intial newness has worn off. The participates have already worn their Wonder Woman costumes, Uncle Sam hats and flag shirts and now have nothing new to wear the second time around. Nothing to wear? Pass.

3. No new messages, no new direction. It's going to be the same old "We hate Obama the Socialist" message that didn't do any good the first time around. Most people are now resigned to the fact, after the initial shock, that Obama isn't going anywhere anytime soon. They are settling in and finally accepting it. Some people just were more slower to catch on than the rest of America.

4. Little news coverage by Fox this time around. The first time around, it was the "In" thing to cover these teabaggers. News people wanted to know who they were, where they came from and what made them tick.

It turned out the teabaggers weren't much at all: the societial equivalent of the disgruntled office worker with a gripe against their old employer. Some were hate groups who as usual, parasited onto anything they could find mugging for a camera. Some had lost jobs from the Bush administration's botching of the economy and now had plenty of time to sit around and shout into the wind. Some were warhawks who never fought for their country but whined Obama made them "less safe", but most were fans urged to go out and "make a difference" by Fox News and their employees. Fox was pushing the teabagger rallies every chance they got on EVERY show, which upped the crowd count. Their fans saw an "event" and they went. Fox has quite a large audience and a few from there showed up.

This time around, Fox is not pushing these parties because it's old news, lol. So now the people who get their clues from Fox daily think there's nothing going on because "the fancy picture box didn't say so", so now they are going to have a picnic at home.


6. BBQ vs... BOO! Self explanatory. You can be eating Tex-Mex, hotdogs and burgers with your friends and family celebrating this great American holiday after working hard all week (if you have a job) or you can go downtown where NO ONE ELSE WILL BE on a holiday weekend, mug for cameras and yell to strangers through the idiot box's umbilical cord.


The teabagger movement died an early death.

  Zindaihas

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7/03/09 10:28:25 AM#2

I'm going to one and there are three planned in my area, so that renders this thread effectively irrelevent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tK6YIAX1jg

  Ekibiogami

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7/03/09 11:36:44 AM#3

pop... yor the only one who is failing with all these Really stupid posts.

You used to be better than this.. what happend?

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7/03/09 11:42:28 AM#4

Unless they can moon walk, while wearing one glove and singing "Billie Jean", they're never going to make the news anytime soon........

 

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7/03/09 12:54:05 PM#5
Originally posted by olddaddy

Unless they can moon walk, while wearing one glove and singing "Billie Jean", they're never going to make the news anytime soon........

 

 

 

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  popinjay

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7/03/09 1:01:28 PM#6


Originally posted by Ekibiogami
pop... yor the only one who is failing with all these Really stupid posts.
You used to be better than this.. what happend?


  popinjay

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7/03/09 1:02:32 PM#7


Originally posted by Porfat
Why all the hate, Popinjay.   Have you been teabagged?


Commenting on something that is about to happen (or NOT happen in this case) is "hate"?

  Wolfenpride

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7/03/09 1:29:14 PM#8

Didn't even know their would be tea parties

but yeah, I mean whats the message going to be this time? Same as before?

  xxvicexx

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7/03/09 5:34:35 PM#9

Next time give credit to the Huffington Report.

 

 

  popinjay

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7/03/09 8:03:15 PM#10


Originally posted by xxvicexx
Next time give credit to the Huffington Report.
 
 

False.


The Washington Independent.

  Ihmotepp

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7/04/09 11:19:20 AM#11

My understanding of the tea parties is government is wasteful, and they tax us a lot, and do very little with the money except spend it on unncecssary pork projects to get re-elected.

I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing. It's less taxes, less government, not really a hate democrats love republicans thing as far as I can tell.

  popinjay

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7/04/09 11:38:26 AM#12


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.







  Ihmotepp

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7/04/09 11:45:18 AM#13
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

 

I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.


 







Democrats Hysterical Over Tea Party Republicans
April 21, 2009 12:30 PM ET | Mary Kate Cary | Permanent Link | Print

By Mary Kate Cary, Thomas Jefferson Street blog

Why is the left so angry? It's a question posed by columnist Byron York today, and he's got a great point. With control of House, Senate, and White House, you'd think they'd be sitting on top of the world. Instead, they lash out in anger. York writes:

If you doubt it, just watch a few minutes of MSNBC, where the recent nationwide series of "tea parties" to protest federal spending and taxes set off an angry, almost manic response. The most telling came on Keith Olbermann's program, during which the actress Janeane Garofalo, who plays an FBI computer geek on "24," denounced the tea parties as "racism straight up."

"Let's be very honest about what this is about," Garofalo said. "It's not about bashing Democrats. It's not about taxes...This is about hating a black man in the White House."

Was she watching the same tea parties the rest of us were?

Similarly, longtime Democratic adviser Robert Shrum wrote in The Week about the tea parties, in a diatribe that seems to border on hysteria. Calling the tea parties "insubstantial," "incoherent," "hate-filled," and "paranoia on parade," Shrum compares those protesting Obama's tax-and-spend policies to those who supported McCarthyism, anti-Catholicism, and even those who distributed leaflets on the day of Kennedy's assassination accusing him of being a communist. He also throws in references to anti-Muslim rhetoric, swastikas, and rising gun sales as well. Clearly he doesn't think these protests were "insubstantial," or he wouldn't feel so threatened by them.

Isn't that what's going on here—that those who have a stake in a bigger government, higher taxes, and higher spending might feel threatened by what they saw last week? The fact that the RNC had nothing to do with the tea parties makes them even scarier to some. These were citizens upset at the size and scope of our government, and there's nothing wrong with them saying so—even if some of them were a little on the fringes. That happens at every protest. The bottom line is that the vast majority of protesters were not "hate-filled," but expressing a legitimate concern. They don't deserve to be belittled and insulted.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/mary-kate-cary/2009/04/21/democrats-hysterical-over-tea-party-republicans.html

  popinjay

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7/04/09 11:56:37 AM#14


Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

 "The fact that the RNC had nothing to do with the tea parties makes them even scarier to some. These were citizens upset at the size and scope of our government, and there's nothing wrong with them saying so—even if some of them were a little on the fringes. That happens at every protest."


You asked why the OP thinks it's an Obama hate thing. Proof was shown. You respond with a blogger talking about the RNC.

Interesting.

  Ihmotepp

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7/04/09 12:08:05 PM#15
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

 

 "The fact that the RNC had nothing to do with the tea parties makes them even scarier to some. These were citizens upset at the size and scope of our government, and there's nothing wrong with them saying so—even if some of them were a little on the fringes. That happens at every protest."


 

You asked why the OP thinks it's an Obama hate thing. Proof was shown. You respond with a blogger talking about the RNC.

 

 

Interesting.

 

If that is proof, then showing a person holding a sign that says the troops in Iraq are baby killers at a DNC meeting, means that's proof all Democrats think the American troops are baby killers.

 

  popinjay

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7/04/09 12:16:59 PM#16


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by popinjay

 



Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.


Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
 "The fact that the RNC had nothing to do with the tea parties makes them even scarier to some. These were citizens upset at the size and scope of our government, and there's nothing wrong with them saying so—even if some of them were a little on the fringes. That happens at every protest."



 
You asked why the OP thinks it's an Obama hate thing. Proof was shown. You respond with a blogger talking about the RNC.
 
 
Interesting.



 
If that is proof, then showing a person holding a sign that says the troops in Iraq are baby killers at a DNC meeting, means that's proof all Democrats think the American troops are baby killers.
 


It was proof of why someone can think it's an anti-Obama thing, which is what you pondered over. It's not proof of every single person in the crowd's position on anything else. Your reach is too far.

  Ihmotepp

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7/04/09 12:32:18 PM#17
Originally posted by popinjay

 


Originally posted by Ihmotepp

Originally posted by popinjay

 

 



Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
I don't know why the OP thinks it's a hate Obama thing.

 


Originally posted by Ihmotepp
 
 "The fact that the RNC had nothing to do with the tea parties makes them even scarier to some. These were citizens upset at the size and scope of our government, and there's nothing wrong with them saying so—even if some of them were a little on the fringes. That happens at every protest."

 


 


 
You asked why the OP thinks it's an Obama hate thing. Proof was shown. You respond with a blogger talking about the RNC.
 
 
Interesting.



 
If that is proof, then showing a person holding a sign that says the troops in Iraq are baby killers at a DNC meeting, means that's proof all Democrats think the American troops are baby killers.
 

 


It was proof of why someone can think it's an anti-Obama thing, which is what you pondered over. It's not proof of every single person in the crowd's position on anything else. Your reach is too far.

 

Exactly my point about thinking it's a "hate Obama" thing. That's reaching to far.

I'm sure some people in the crowds at the tea partys hate Obama, but that doesn't mean that is what the parties are about. Some people at the tea partys hate Bush and the Republicans for spending some much of their tax dollars on crap.

The common denominator is being upset over gettting taxed and your money paying for crap, not hating Republicans or Democrats.

  Godliest

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7/04/09 3:51:28 PM#18

Most importantly it's too far away for the major part of the world. I mean 95% of the world will most likely be unable to go! I think that speaks for itself.



  slaphappy33

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7/04/09 8:27:28 PM#19

Just checked FoxNews.com. It's 9:30 pm on the 4th, and there is ZERO mention of any "teabag" celebrations anywhere in the U.S.

Utterly irrelevant.

  BaronJuJu

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7/05/09 2:52:38 AM#20
Originally posted by slaphappy33

Just checked FoxNews.com. It's 9:30 pm on the 4th, and there is ZERO mention of any "teabag" celebrations anywhere in the U.S.

Utterly irrelevant.


 

TEA Party activists rally at Capitol

Second story on the CNN politics page. Not mentioned at all on their main page, but the few stories available are out there.

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