Compareing stats before 1.05 and after, player count in 24 hour period on same week day as dropped 60% and still declineing. Seems like pvp people are unhappy with this new patch. It's a shame since the patch has good itemization and tweaks, but the pvp balance is worse than ever. I hope they will fix it.

another seperation from wow and everyone else

if an imbalance in wow exists, its intentional

good riddance, they couldnt handle the changes and failed to adapt.

/sarcasm off

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The U.S. Forums say they are losing players due to 1.05 as well, especially Raiders.

And the Exploits that still run rampant (guessing that link gets deleted quickly, it has almost the whole laundry list).

Originally posted by Zorvan

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Nice to see you too Zorv :)

Let me ask this.

Why are they not allowing paid server transfers to Fury then? If this so called stat was factual..

Maybe because this has just happened in few days? In our guild we used to have 30 people online during peak hours (total 344), now we have 7 just today. 15 players have told me that they have unsubbed, i know cause im officer. The fact is that things are not looking good, just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.

Originally posted by AmazingAvery

Originally posted by Zorvan

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Nice to see you too Zorv :)

Heheh, guess either I need to adjust my "Avery Incoming" radar, or you need to work on your timing.
 

Originally posted by smokefin

Maybe because this has just happened in few days? In our guild we used to have 30 people online during peak hours (total 344), now we have 7 just today. 15 players have told me that they have unsubbed, i know cause im officer. The fact is that things are not looking good, just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.

Unless your guild is all of the Fury server, it sounds like more of a guild problem. Everyone screamed, hollared and kicked for gear to be more meaningful and now it is. So they /nerdrage LOL

Originally posted by smokefin

Maybe because this has just happened in few days? In our guild we used to have 30 people online during peak hours (total 344), now we have 7 just today. 15 players have told me that they have unsubbed, i know cause im officer. The fact is that things are not looking good, just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.

The guild I'm in went from around 25 online to 34+. So we experienced the opposite of you guys. I think I know what guild you are refering too, and if you look at the feedback there is some pissed of people, but they are not the majority, they simply just shouts the loudest.

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The increase might have been from people coming back from vacations etc. since I haven't been a member a long time yet it's hard to say if and what etc. :P But the general impression I have gotten over the days is that we get more people coming back to the game.

Oh and also the way you based your calculations is a bit interesting, we will see over a much longer time how many players we lost to patch 1.05 on fury. Saying that we lost 60% based on your own calculations in a short time period proves nothing. The real picture will be shown in a month or 2.

Mostly oneshotters are pissed now 'cuz their source of "ownage" just got... owned :) There are indeed discontent people on Fury, as the patch seems to have fixed the PvE side of things and borked the pvp balance to a new level. But... there's a lot of fresh blood incoming and, frankly, the so-called veterans of Fury have absolutely no interest in seeing AoC as an MMO, but more like a giant Counterstrike map with oneshotting guns in their hands. Fortunately, the director is not pandering to their myopic needs anymore and sees the bigger picture here.

They really need to fix the pvp side of things in the next month or so (way before 1.6), so that even the veterans will be willing to stay.

Originally posted by smokefin

....just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.....

He's right you know,

The AoC Forums have gone absolutely batty with unsatisified people.

.....But if you want to really face facts..........

By this time next year there will be a ton of new MMORPGS....Star Trek Online, Star Wars, Aion, GW2...(all by experienced and quality game makers) and that's just for starters.

After the next gen of MMORPGS arrive...that should be the final nail.

This was a really disgusting and trolling post about AoC, but at the last second I decided to delete what I wrote. It was about the state of AoC even after this suposed uber mega pacht, but I deleted it all.

I can only talk from my own opinion about what I think about patch 1.05.

Well I can start by saying that they've really nerfed my class (PoM), before patch I could solo 3-4 mobs of my level quite easily, but now I can only solo 1-2 and even then its a struggle because now I run out of mana a lot quicker than I did before.

I would feel justified in saying that I hate patch 1.05, but I wont because I love the new patch. It has made me re-think the way I play my character and I feel now that PoM is now exactly what it is supposed to be, a great healer and a fairly weak DPS class.

As I said at the start of the post this is my opinion and I am extremely happy with what the new patch brings to the game.

The following link is an interview with the developer regarding the recent changes:

www.mmogamer.com/07/01/2009/age-of-conans-craig-morrison-talks-gangs-of-tarantia

Originally posted by Blackwell99

Originally posted by smokefin

....just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.....

 He's right you know,

 The AoC Forums have gone absolutely batty with unsatisified people......But if you want to really face facts..........

 By this time next year there will be a ton of new MMORPGS....Star Trek Online, Star Wars, Aion, GW2...(all by experienced and quality game makers) and that's just for starters.

 After the next gen of MMORPGS arrive...that should be the final nail.

That's his opinion. My opinion is the patch just came out, of course the forums are lit up with various opinions. It will need a few tweaks for the big issues that came up with it. They have already had two hot fixes for various things.

Bring on the new MMOs! I'm looking forward to the competition. I want to see how well the devs can create content and innovative features to make me stick around. Out of the MMOs you listed I am only interested in Star Trek. With EA owning Bioware now I have my doubts on Star Wars, doubting the fun factor. GW2 next year? .... I'll believe it when I see it.

Originally posted by Blackwell99

Originally posted by smokefin

....just look at the 1.05 feedback threads, people are seriously pissed off. Amazingavery, i know you love conan, so do i but its time to face the facts.....

 

He's right you know,

 

The AoC Forums have gone absolutely batty with unsatisified people.

.....But if you want to really face facts..........

 

By this time next year there will be a ton of new MMORPGS....Star Trek Online, Star Wars, Aion, GW2...(all by experienced and quality game makers) and that's just for starters.

 

After the next gen of MMORPGS arrive...that should be the final nail.

  You are right, AoC has no place left to go but down now. Look at the history.. Release, sold like mad  probaably more than a million copies sold in first six months but it had a terrible retention rate so by January down to less than 100K. Server merges in January gave a big booth in resubs for a few weeks but once aging the game has no staying power. Free trial the next month, once again a lot of fresh blood came in but left just as fast. Now the 1.05 miracle patch is getting a lot of flak from the present subscribers even as it tweaks the curiosity of past subscribers such as myself. Sorry fans but things do not look good right now for the game.

As a recent resub, I must say the patch is very good for the game. FIghts seem more drawn out, no more one shots.

BUT, I do also see many people leaving. Entire guilds heading off to Aion.

The patch isn't bad per se (in fact I think it's quite good), but the people left in the game really don't seem to care about it, and there doesn't seem to be a large number of returning vets to make up for it

Originally posted by baconator616

As a recent resub, I must say the patch is very good for the game. FIghts seem more drawn out, no more one shots.

BUT, I do also see many people leaving. Entire guilds heading off to Aion.

The patch isn't bad per se (in fact I think it's quite good), but the people left in the game really don't seem to care about it, and there doesn't seem to be a large number of returning vets to make up for it

Who told you that they were leaving off to Aion?

The 1.05 patch made mages ubber and destroyed melee class players.  All mages do is CC, run back, Nuke, Nuke, CC, run back, Nuke, Nuke...  Melee classes might get a few combo during this and get the mages health down to around 60% before they die.

Everything else in 1.05 I like, the gear is better now and PvE seems pretty good, although Guardians got hit hard even in PvE, they nerfed Defensive stance and Health regeneration really hard which makes Guards semi useless.  I found it better to stay in frenzy stance while tanking in Atzels because the Defensive stance got nerfed so bad.

Anyways I canceled yet again, I'm not going to pay them $15 a month to beta test there patch, Ill come back in a few months after they nerf things so the game is more balanced.