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ok heres a question about virus and how it spread... lets say... there are 2 computers and both are connected to the same wireless router using wireless connection... one computer has antivirus protection and firewall up... while the other does not... and lets say the computer that does not have protection gets infected by a w/e virus... the question is... can that virus or any virus spread into the router and infect the protected computer? if the virus is trying to infect the protected computer through the wireless router... can the antivirus still protect the protected computer?
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Lord_Ixigan
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Joined: 3/23/08
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6/29/09 6:16:11 PM#2
The better question is why do people even spend their time making viruses in the first place. Other than ones that keylog or steal your info I don't see why anybody would make ones that just fux with your system. My theory is they're made by the anti-virus companies to keep sales up.
In response to your question: No, I don't think so. Guess it depends on what virus it is. |
Originally posted by Lord_Ixigan
you know... i thought about that last night...
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i googled this up... "Definitely Yes. A virus (such as ConFicker) Uses this to their advantage. That's how ConFicker was able to spread so fast. However, if you catch the virus fast enough, the likelihood of it spreading is low. A virus may infect the firmwire of the router, and send it out through the connection. Try to update the firmwire, restart the router, change the SSID, other things to maybe "trick" the router."
can anyone give a comment on that statement? and once again the non infected computer has antivirus protection can it or can it not block the incoming virus from routers if the routers can get infected...?
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6/29/09 6:20:59 PM#5
Without knowing much about it, i'd say no, the protected computer should be protected no matter where the virus comes from... It detects when something unwanted is trying to get on your comp... even if you tried to put it on your computer yourself.. :P But then you could just make sure the protection software to ignores it. And also, depends what anti software u got... people who make these viruses are always trying to bypass them, and anti software can't block them before they are made :P i guess..... cause there will always be a way around it.
But that is just what i think, dont trust this 100%... since i have no idea what im talking about xD I take what I want, when I want it. |
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Lord_Ixigan
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Joined: 3/23/08
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6/29/09 6:21:31 PM#6
Depends on what anti-virus you have. It should monitor not only incoming connections and block what it deems harmful, but also processes that try to start. |
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6/29/09 6:21:53 PM#7
Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe
The only part of this I can answer with some certanty is yes, your AV should catch the virus should it try to get on that PC. As long as your AV is aware of that virus anyway. |
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6/29/09 6:23:25 PM#8
Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe The answer is yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_worm
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Originally posted by Lord_Ixigan
I have Norton
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6/29/09 6:25:49 PM#10
Norton sucks tbh, but thats another story :D I take what I want, when I want it. |
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Originally posted by Beazt
what about bitdefender
and can you go a little more into detail on why norton sucks?
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6/29/09 6:28:16 PM#12
I'm almost sure that anti-virus companies...the ones that charge for the yearly license...which I think are all of the retail ones now....have people on staff or covertly implanting viruses to guarantee the usefulness and longevity of their product. Remember when you used to own an AVP and just updated it. Now you have to pay on a annual basis for the license. Why would you need this if new viruses were not a given. I'm sure their are a few tools out there making and dispersing viruses but I also believe quite a few of them are paid to do so. They are made to be fixed...and unless as a war strategy to destroy all communications...will never be globally devastating. Just a big PITA. Why would virus creator...even for twisted kicks...risk destroying his main hobby and likely occupation. It is the rare individual that merely "wants to see the world burn"...to quote "The Dark Knight". It's all money. Imo ....one of the reasons Linux is reputedly much safer and virus free...is that it is not as embedded in the general market (economically and mentally) as much as windows/dos....one reason is it can be had for free and changed at will....whereas windows is a set package with constant updates that any programmer can sift through on a regular basis..Linux could be set up one of a zillion ways...so how to create a virus for such randomness might be tough...There not as much money to be had if you fuck with PC's using Linux. If it got fried...download free linux again. Just ranting...sorry |
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6/29/09 6:28:23 PM#13
Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe
I have Norton
Your type of anti-virus is irrelevant. A virus must be discovered before any anti-virus can write code to protect you. You will always be one step behind. |
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6/29/09 6:29:40 PM#14
Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe
what about bitdefender
and can you go a little more into detail on why norton sucks?
It's just a known fact that Norton sucks, nobody knows why anymore :p. I use Avast. |
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6/29/09 6:33:23 PM#15
Originally posted by Nicksd
It's just a known fact that Norton sucks, nobody knows why anymore :p. I use Avast.
It sucks because they are behind many other anti-virus programs in terms of getting fixes to the market. They have instead shifted to various little tools within system works that really dont help. (for advanced users at least) Not to mention its a resource hog. |
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6/29/09 6:34:19 PM#16
Originally posted by Biohunter
It's just a known fact that Norton sucks, nobody knows why anymore :p. I use Avast.
It sucks because they are behind many other anti-virus programs in terms of getting fixes to the market. They have instead shifted to various little tools within system works that really dont help. (for advanced users at least) Not to mention its a resource hog.
Well there ya go :p |
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Originally posted by Nicksd
It sucks because they are behind many other anti-virus programs in terms of getting fixes to the market. They have instead shifted to various little tools within system works that really dont help. (for advanced users at least) Not to mention its a resource hog.
Well there ya go :p
no comments on bitdefender?
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6/29/09 6:39:44 PM#18
Originally posted by Fr0z1nDuDe
It sucks because they are behind many other anti-virus programs in terms of getting fixes to the market. They have instead shifted to various little tools within system works that really dont help. (for advanced users at least) Not to mention its a resource hog.
Well there ya go :p
no comments on bitdefender?
I personally havent used Bitdefender. If I had to give ya 3 I like it would be AVG, Avast, and Trend Micro PCcillin. |
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6/29/09 6:42:23 PM#19
Kaspersky is your friend mate... it's cheap, and it works... theres alot of updates, which is a good thing....
i dont know anything about bitdefender tbh.. I take what I want, when I want it. |
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6/29/09 6:48:29 PM#20
I agree....I've had nothing but great times with "Kaspersky". Of course I also have free versions of" SpybotS&D "and "ADAWARE" monitoring at all times....and I run "Malwarebytes" anti-malware almost daily...it has actually caught shite that got through the others (if you can believe that). Yeah...I'm a bit paranoid....but functioning. I do remember "MacAfee" AVG being shit when I had it......for a free virus monitor..very basic ...."AVG" is damn good (the free "AVG"plus "Malwarebytes" is what I have on my older PC with XP and I've had very little problems..again the"malwarebytes" usually catches what is missed.)..you can upgrade "AVG" later for cash...but if you do that...you might as well use "Kaspersky". Key is ,,,Setup automatic or manually update regularly if not daily. |
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