In the tradition of the Agon report and The Darkfall Tribune, Bannerfall will attempt to continue the journalistic spirit in Darkfall. However, unlike its predecessors Bannerfall, named after the newspaper in Ayn Rand's book The Fountain Head hopes to contain not only political reports, but frequently updated tips/tricks, guides, individual stories, economic news, and other pieces of interest.

The first reports that will be posted on Bannerfall will be historic in nature. We will attempt to chronicle all the political events that have transpired on EU-1 and post on these events with a little bias as possible. In addition to the history of EU-1 we will also discuss the ramifications of the most recent post made by AV about player transfers and try to explain where AV is wrong, what the complaints player base has, as well as highlighting people who see nothing wrong with the present situation.

In order for this paper to work I'll need a staff that can maintain journalistic integrity by being objective, unbiased, and thorough in their reports. If you are interested in helping with this project please send me a PM with the following information

1) In game character name
2) Length of time you've been playing DFO
3) Political background- so I know what type of bias you may have
4) Area you'd like to cover: politics, economy, history, theory, commentary, editorials, etc
5) Time you can devote to the paper, i.e. estimated monthly contributions in terms of material.
6) Sever destination. I plan on moving to NA, but I'd like the paper to include info on both servers if possible
7) Other info you wish to include.

With the help of the community, Bannerfall could very well become a one stop shop for everything DFO related, give newbies advice, sponsor events, and promote the game. Help make this a paper a reality!

Forgot to include the web address. Nothing is on there yet (06/27) because I just created it. I'm using Wordpress free service.

Link: http://bannerfall.wordpress.com/

Hey xpiher this is a bad place to post that because this forum is infested with lots of anti-darkfallers whos only aim is to degrade the game and make them lose potential customers. I'm not going to call any of them trolls because they will only reply by saying they aren't trolls and that they are making logical assumptions

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Hey xpiher this is a bad place to post that because this forum is infested with lots of anti-darkfallers whos only aim is to degrade the game and make them lose potential customers. I'm not going to call any of them trolls because they will only reply by saying they aren't trolls and that they are making logical assumptions

And yet the first negative response is yours, and not one of these "anti-darkfallers".

Ironic, no?

I try to not be the first with the negative response but it always ends up happening with trolls derailing the thread so I'll go first to make the inevitable happen. You know this is true unless you want to spin it another way and not call it trolling.

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

I try to not be the first with the negative response but it always ends up happening with trolls derailing the thread so I'll go first to make the inevitable happen. You know this is true unless you want to spin it another way and not call it trolling.

Every game has fanbois and trolls. Darkfall is no different. The problem comes when people just label any negative comment or criticism as trolling solely because they can't to have their game disparaged. And this is what these Darkfall forums are famous ( or infamous, if you prefer ) for.

Now I think Xipher's thread has been derailed enough, don't you?

As for the topic, I would be interested in seeing this newpaper when it starts. Although I am no fan of Darkfall ( as anyone knows ) it does interest me to see how "unbiased" the paper can manage to be.

Originally posted by Zorvan

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

I try to not be the first with the negative response but it always ends up happening with trolls derailing the thread so I'll go first to make the inevitable happen. You know this is true unless you want to spin it another way and not call it trolling.

Every game has fanbois and trolls. Darkfall is no different. The problem comes when people just label any negative comment or criticism as trolling solely because they can't to have their game disparaged. And this is what these Darkfall forums are famous ( or infamous, if you prefer ) for.

Now I think Xipher's thread has been derailed enough, don't you?

 

As for the topic, I would be interested in seeing this newpaper when it starts. Although I am no fan of Darkfall ( as anyone knows ) it does interest me to see how "unbiased" the paper can manage to be.

It will include mainly in game info such as politics and history tips and tricks type of things, but it will also include AV info, game updates info, and commentary on AV decisions. I just started this, but I plan on having a full post up about the debacle once AV makes an offical statement.

Feel free to leave comments

I appluad your efforts, but it is really miss directed.  Darkfall isn't worthy of such an endevour, as the game and it's players are non-existant and declining rapidly. Obvisouly, Bannerfall will never report on such things, they aren't payed to!

Though, I do see you having another motive... the same one you've stood behind for many months now and the reason is clear.

Money. 

If Aventurine does release a NA server, kids will find your website interesting (obvisouly, because the official one is horrible) and begine to read the sugar-coated blogs and reports you guys posts. And then become more dumber!

I love the fact you try and generate excitment out of nothing. I really wish you would've played Everquest back in th day, where real politics and actual Guild activities had server-wide repurcussions... not because you say so, but because they changed the whole flow of the game. They didn't need reporting on, as everyone eventually knew.

Since Darkfall is a combat simulator with constant battles, nothing important comes from combat itself.  Nothng changes because a clan gets attacked, because that is part of what you are suppose to be doing. It's like reporting on someone changing their gun clip in a COD tourney...  it happens.

Reporting on every battle or making every battle to be something moar than what it is...  really gets tireing. Darkfall is not a deep game, there isn't anything to blog about or discuss. You regurgitating day to day "events" won't make real or exciting.    

I have read all your posts in the past and the highly outdated guild rosters you keep. Then listen to your posts and sit back and try and guess why you are going threw all this effort. Specially for the smallest & worst mmo to be released in 10 years.

Lastly, the blogs within your site are incredibly Fisher Price. The "Brotherhood" thread reads like a bunch of marketing hoccus pokus, as most of it is just another attempt to skew history and make DFO look like something it isn't. The "Brotherhood" blog is incredibly ignorant and overly obvious at the same time.  That whole blog could easily be one paragraph, but then it wouldn't contain all the Tasos 'esque flair and agenda leading nonesense.  

Clans are not guilds...

You know this, the blogger knows this, but to every 15 year old that reads it, he wants to play Darkfall and join a fraturnity and become part of "something". It the whol reason anyone who is playing darkfall... is still playing. The same reason those who continued to play Ultima Online after 2001. (IE: Lord of the flies syndrom)

Many people try-out for guilds... this has been going on for 12 years! I know people who were a recruit for 5 months. Unable to join another guild while pladged. It's a common practice and has been for over a decade. Yet, somehow now it's become a "clan" fraternaty and a new mindwset within the Darkfall community.... because Bannerfall told the newbies it was so. So now people will be scrambling to implament the "brotherhood" edict.

Bannerfall is nothing but newbie reports and Darkfall lipservice!   ...Sorry, that is how I see it.

Bannerfall is just too absurd and is a perfect experiment in morally repugnant social practices.

I really appluad you for pulling a Tasos Flambouras and creating excitment where there is none. I'm quite sure Bannerfall will be a great marketing tool for Aventurine when they open up the NA servers. As your agenda knows no bounds!

I think that it's a good idea. Now if the rest of the community gets on board with this, it may prove to be a nice read.

Good luck!

Originally posted by Phelcher

 

I appluad your efforts, but it is really miss directed.  Darkfall isn't worthy of such an endevour, as the game and it's players are non-existant and declining rapidly. Obvisouly, Bannerfall will never report on such things, they aren't payed to!

Though, I do see you having another motive... the same one you've stood behind for many months now and the reason is clear.

Money. 

If Aventurine does release a NA server, kids will find your website interesting (obvisouly, because the official one is horrible) and begine to read the sugar-coated blogs and reports you guys posts. And then become more dumber!

I love the fact you try and generate excitment out of nothing. I really wish you would've played Everquest back in th day, where real politics and actual Guild activities had server-wide repurcussions... not because you say so, but because they changed the whole flow of the game. They didn't need reporting on, as everyone eventually knew.

 

Since Darkfall is a combat simulator with constant battles, nothing important comes from combat itself.  Nothng changes because a clan gets attacked, because that is part of what you are suppose to be doing. It's like reporting on someone changing their gun clip in a COD tourney...  it happens.

Reporting on every battle or making every battle to be something moar than what it is...  really gets tireing. Darkfall is not a deep game, there isn't anything to blog about or discuss. You regurgitating day to day "events" won't make real or exciting.    

 

I have read all your posts in the past and the highly outdated guild rosters you keep. Then listen to your posts and sit back and try and guess why you are going threw all this effort. Specially for the smallest & worst mmo to be released in 10 years.

 Lastly, the blogs within your site are incredibly Fisher Price. The "Brotherhood" thread reads like a bunch of marketing hoccus pokus, as most of it is just another attempt to skew history and make DFO look like something it isn't. The "Brotherhood" blog is incredibly ignorant and overly obvious at the same time.  That whole blog could easily be one paragraph, but then it wouldn't contain all the Tasos 'esque flair and agenda leading nonesense.  

Clans are not guilds...

You know this, the blogger knows this, but to every 15 year old that reads it, he wants to play Darkfall and join a fraturnity and become part of "something". It the whol reason anyone who is playing darkfall... is still playing. The same reason those who continued to play Ultima Online after 2001. (IE: Lord of the flies syndrom)

Many people try-out for guilds... this has been going on for 12 years! I know people who were a recruit for 5 months. Unable to join another guild while pladged. It's a common practice and has been for over a decade. Yet, somehow now it's become a "clan" fraternaty and a new mindwset within the Darkfall community.... because Bannerfall told the newbies it was so. So now people will be scrambling to implament the "brotherhood" edict.

 

Bannerfall is nothing but newbie reports and Darkfall lipservice!   ...Sorry, that is how I see it.

Bannerfall is just too absurd and is a perfect experiment in morally repugnant social practices.

I really appluad you for pulling a Tasos Flambouras and creating excitment where there is none. I'm quite sure Bannerfall will be a great marketing tool for Aventurine when they open up the NA servers. As your agenda knows no bounds!

1) I'm not a payed employee of AV

2) The game isn't dead just because you say it is. Yes, it has lost subs but people still play

3) The pieece you keep talking about wasn't written by me. Its an editorial piece that one of my contibutiors wanted to post. Notice I said its and Editorial, which means its an opinion piece. Guilds and Clans are rally the same thing. DFO's most successsful clans/alliance are composed of player who belong to gamming communities such as The Old Timers guild, Sinister,  The Mercs, and SDS/Goons

4) DFO has been, IMO, the best MMO released in 10yrs. Yea, despite its faults its has a good base. I would be saying that about MO if it was lauched first but it was not and the game will miss a lot of content which I Peronally look for in a game now, mainly politcs and siege battle support. Sorry player housing and 1000x caftable items aren't enough for me.

5) Bannerfall isn't just a Blog/Newspaper for newbies. Hell, the first two post on there aren't noobie friendly. It will be also a place for peopel to get reports about the guild politics and player held events. If theres an event going on, PvP tournaments for instance, we'll be there to cover the story. Its also a new medium for me to post my political reports that are also on this site.

6) This also ins't the first newspaper that DFO has had. The Agon Report and DF Tribuen were political newspapers. They failed becuase either not enough people helped support it, the people running it quit, ran out of time, or were using it just to get info.

Sorry that you don't understand the political workings of games like this. They are actually pretty intricate and lead to instresting developements such as the destruction of and entire alliance in 3days. 4 days after I post my report Dusk fell apart. I'm not taking credit, but I'm sure some of the info I posted lead some of the clans to say Dusk was no longer serving their intrest.

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Originally posted by Phelcher

 
 
I appluad your efforts, but it is really miss directed.  Darkfall isn't worthy of such an endevour, as the game and it's players are non-existant and declining rapidly. Obvisouly, Bannerfall will never report on such things, they aren't payed to!
Though, I do see you having another motive... the same one you've stood behind for many months now and the reason is clear.
Money. 
If Aventurine does release a NA server, kids will find your website interesting (obvisouly, because the official one is horrible) and begine to read the sugar-coated blogs and reports you guys posts. And then become more dumber!
I love the fact you try and generate excitment out of nothing. I really wish you would've played Everquest back in th day, where real politics and actual Guild activities had server-wide repurcussions... not because you say so, but because they changed the whole flow of the game. They didn't need reporting on, as everyone eventually knew.
 
Since Darkfall is a combat simulator with constant battles, nothing important comes from combat itself.  Nothng changes because a clan gets attacked, because that is part of what you are suppose to be doing. It's like reporting on someone changing their gun clip in a COD tourney...  it happens.
Reporting on every battle or making every battle to be something moar than what it is...  really gets tireing. Darkfall is not a deep game, there isn't anything to blog about or discuss. You regurgitating day to day "events" won't make real or exciting.    
 
 
I have read all your posts in the past and the highly outdated guild rosters you keep. Then listen to your posts and sit back and try and guess why you are going threw all this effort. Specially for the smallest & worst mmo to be released in 10 years.
 
Lastly, the blogs within your site are incredibly Fisher Price. The "Brotherhood" thread reads like a bunch of marketing hoccus pokus, as most of it is just another attempt to skew history and make DFO look like something it isn't. The "Brotherhood" blog is incredibly ignorant and overly obvious at the same time.  That whole blog could easily be one paragraph, but then it wouldn't contain all the Tasos 'esque flair and agenda leading nonesense.  
Clans are not guilds...
You know this, the blogger knows this, but to every 15 year old that reads it, he wants to play Darkfall and join a fraturnity and become part of "something". It the whol reason anyone who is playing darkfall... is still playing. The same reason those who continued to play Ultima Online after 2001. (IE: Lord of the flies syndrom)
Many people try-out for guilds... this has been going on for 12 years! I know people who were a recruit for 5 months. Unable to join another guild while pladged. It's a common practice and has been for over a decade. Yet, somehow now it's become a "clan" fraternaty and a new mindwset within the Darkfall community.... because Bannerfall told the newbies it was so. So now people will be scrambling to implament the "brotherhood" edict.
 
Bannerfall is nothing but newbie reports and Darkfall lipservice!   ...Sorry, that is how I see it.
Bannerfall is just too absurd and is a perfect experiment in morally repugnant social practices.
I really appluad you for pulling a Tasos Flambouras and creating excitment where there is none. I'm quite sure Bannerfall will be a great marketing tool for Aventurine when they open up the NA servers. As your agenda knows no bounds!
 
 
 
 

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Now while I think DF is a complete piece of garbage with a bunch of crooks and naerdowells running it, I applaud any players attempt at writing in hopes of improving a games "mojo".

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

so good luck with the project!

Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

 

so good luck with the project!

Just look at his join date. AV pissed him off and hes trolling fans of DFO becuase he feels like he got ripped off or something. He may be right that clan politics aren't anything new, but in games like DFO, EvE, and SB they are lot more intresting than games that don't have terriortial ownership. Generally speaking, the players of these games do find reports about whats happening in the game to be intresting.

Lol did he just get banned?

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

 

so good luck with the project!

 

Just look at his join date. AV pissed him off and hes trolling fans of DFO becuase he feels like he got ripped off or something. He may be right that clan politics aren't anything new, but in games like DFO, EvE, and SB they are lot more intresting than games that don't have terriortial ownership. Generally speaking, the players of these games do find reports about whats happening in the game to be intresting.

Lol did he just get banned?

i have to admit that df made me register here too. the first game since many years that motivated me to register for discussion. :D

Just a qucik update on how the site is going . So far I've managed to enlist the help of 2 contributors. Both have done editorial  like pieces. I'm still looking for more people to help, but it looks like its off to a good start. Again, feel free to leave a comment about anything you read.

Originally posted by wyrdaskolir

Hey xpiher this is a bad place to post that because this forum is infested with lots of anti-darkfallers whos only aim is to degrade the game and make them lose potential customers. I'm not going to call any of them trolls because they will only reply by saying they aren't trolls and that they are making logical assumptions

This isnt the offical DFO forums last time I checked. Why are you here if you dont like it? Why bother posting if all you have to say is everyone who dosnt march in lockstep chanting "DFO is Great" is a "anti darkfaller"? You do realise this is a public forum correct?

I have one word of advice for you, understand this, when you grow up you will discover everyone will not agree with you all the time. Calling them names, or threating to take your ball and go home wont change that fact.

If you feel you are incapable of having a discussion about DFO here, go to the official forums...seriously, why are you here?

To the OP, didnt the two previous "newspapers" fold because the individuals who created them quit? So now you are publishing a "newspaper". I understand some people on the DFO official forums called into question your lack of impartiality. You do realise that to create a good "newspaper", one people will really want to read, you need to impose some sense of ethics upon yourself...correct? At any rate GL with your 'newspaper".

Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

 

so good luck with the project!

I agree as long and he maintains some sense of impartiality, and apparently hes already been accused of not bieng impartial at all.

Who jumps on to a sinking ship? Im baffled.  Good luck though, you did get my click.

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

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Originally posted by Seytan

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Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

so good luck with the project!

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I agree as long and he maintains some sense of impartiality, and apparently hes already been accused of not bieng impartial at all.

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Originally posted by egotrip

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

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Originally posted by egotrip

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

That would certainly be the easiest section of the newspaper to fill.  Just the "I quit" statements would be more than any three full-time employees could handle.

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by egotrip

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

 

That would certainly be the easiest section of the newspaper to fill.  Just the "I quit" statements would be more than any three full-time employees could handle.

 

 

And everyone one of the "I quit" threads are the same thing: DFO isn't a sandbox because everyone is the same (not true) and they don't punish PKing enough.

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by egotrip

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

 

That would certainly be the easiest section of the newspaper to fill.  Just the "I quit" statements would be more than any three full-time employees could handle.

 

 

 

And everyone one of the "I quit" threads are the same thing: DFO isn't a sandbox because everyone is the same (not true) and they don't punish PKing enough.

Funny...that's not why my friends and I quit.

Where are you getting your information from, because it seems wrong.....and yet you're taking it on yourself to produce a "newsite" about DFO.

Certainly no bias showing there!

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by xpiher

Originally posted by Hammertime1

Originally posted by egotrip

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

 

That would certainly be the easiest section of the newspaper to fill.  Just the "I quit" statements would be more than any three full-time employees could handle.

 

 

 

And everyone one of the "I quit" threads are the same thing: DFO isn't a sandbox because everyone is the same (not true) and they don't punish PKing enough.

 

Funny...that's not why my friends and I quit.

Where are you getting your information from, because it seems wrong.....and yet you're taking it on yourself to produce a "newsite" about DFO.

Certainly no bias showing there!

You didn't post an I quit thread on DFO's website, although I did see a Hammer TIme guild. What do I care why people quit, its all been said 1k times before.

Originally posted by xpiher

 

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Originally posted by Seytan

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Originally posted by pwnzorellOr

 

Oh Phelcher, come on ... what's wrong with fans of a game that try to do something like a newspaper for the community, it's a good way to socialize and keep people entertained / interested. it can be pretty fun to make or to read and it's not like they are making some fanboi propaganda for the game or stuff like that. :D

so good luck with the project!

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I agree as long and he maintains some sense of impartiality, and apparently hes already been accused of not bieng impartial at all.

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The only people that have accused me of being biased are the ones who I pointed out faults with. Besides that, I have never claimed that any of my political reports were suppose to be unbiased; yet, the background information that my conclusions are based on is "fact" in so much as thts what happened and was agreeded upon by most participants.

 

 

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Originally posted by egotrip

 

Do you have an 'obituary' section in this newspaper?

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Lol that would be pretty funny.

 

Dont forget this...just because you are publishing this "newspaper" does not give you absolute dominion over the truth. See what I just did there? You assert you are now a purveryor of "fact". Because concensus as you "see" it says so. I am sure there are many whom would disagree. See what I did there again?
 

At any rate as you say you never intended for the "newspaper" to be unbaised. And its important that this is evident.