Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by naraku209

Just wait for Huxly, it's going to be awesome.

 

Agreed.  I'm anxious to see how the F2P model works out for them.  Seems to be a good game for it.

Actually every report I've read from people who are already playing it it's pretty bad.  Reports that bunny hopping is out of control, the game engine lags so badly that it's impossible to use any aimed weapons and rocket launchers rule the day.... etc.  Supposedly the biggest battle you can get in is 16v16 and the PVE is crappy UI with numerous pathing issues.

TBH sounds like utter garbage to me.  I mean, 16 v 16 in a battle?  You can get more than that on most single player w/multiplay option FPS Shooters. 

Originally posted by Taram

Originally posted by madeux

Originally posted by naraku209

Just wait for Huxly, it's going to be awesome.

 

Agreed.  I'm anxious to see how the F2P model works out for them.  Seems to be a good game for it.

 

Actually every report I've read from people who are already playing it it's pretty bad.  Reports that bunny hopping is out of control, the game engine lags so badly that it's impossible to use any aimed weapons and rocket launchers rule the day.... etc.  Supposedly the biggest battle you can get in is 16v16 and the PVE is crappy UI with numerous pathing issues.

TBH sounds like utter garbage to me.  I mean, 16 v 16 in a battle?  You can get more than that on most single player w/multiplay option FPS Shooters. 

Please link, i would like to see where you read this, i havn't seen any of what you just said.

Originally posted by WingZero127

Hey, I was never insulting when I reply back to anyone's posts so I'm not going to stoop down to your level.  I know how to use the warp capability.  EVE Online can be deep and intellectually stimulating in your opinion, but that doesn't mean it's going to be appealing and fun for everyone. 

If you know how to use the warp function then why did it take you 30 minutes to get to a planet?

And why were you going to a planet in the first place?

Curious minds want to know?

Seriously... if you just didn't like the game that is understandable.  But your description of the game is so incorrect that it's obviously either an outright lie or you never actually played the game and are just making assumptions about it.  No offense, but to anyone who's actually played the game your description is an obvious lie.

As to the original question...

Sci Fi MMO's coming out that look like they may be worth playing, imo:

Star Wars:  The Old Republic (I freely admit the game style may not suit everyone, but it does look interesting and, more important, different.)

Fallen Earth:  I have to say I'm quite impressed with what I know of this title so far.  

Global Agenda:  Looks like it's going to be very good as well though the jury is out still.

Jumpgate:  Evolution

Sci-fi MMO's currently out worth giving a shot:

EVE Online

Anarchy Online (yes, it's actually a pretty good game)

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Can't think of any others really.  SWG, but only if you've never played it before and don't mind class/level based systems.  If you're a pre-NGE vet of the game you probably won't be able to enjoy it.

Heh alright alright, you guys win, it wasn't exactly 30 minutes, I was embelishing that part... But with the autopilot of the game, going through five different systems to get to a destination takes a good bit of time... not exactly 30 minutes but it still is a lot of waiting and just looking at the screen while the autopilot is in charge.  I didn't play it for very long the first time I tried it so I'm trying it again.

Originally posted by naraku209

Originally posted by StikyIcky

Originally posted by WingZero127

 Eve Online was just.... Click on a planet, go make lunch, and 30 minutes later you arrive at that planet. 

You obviously lack the IQ to figure out how to use Warp in Eve.  Eve Online is probably the deepest and most intellectually stimulating MMOs out there right now.

 

I agree with you on this, you don't find many 12-year-olds playing Eve.

I tried EVE for a while... and subscribed for one month. It is cerebral and challenging, and it is highly successful at portraying a cold, intimidating universe where you trust no-one. In the end my attraction to the first bit was outweighed by the lack of fun the second was for me - it turns out  my preference for fantasy-based PvE, where you can really *see* other people's characters and it's completely natural to help someone or buff them if you see them in trouble, was stronger than I thought. And let me emphasize the *for me* bit there before anyone jumps at this and turns me into a BBQ. :)

Now, my real comment, now that I've given some background, was that I was pretty shocked at what I saw in the chat channels... given how intellectual the game is I was expecting something quite different. If it isn't full of 12-year olds, there are an awful lot of adults behaving like 12-year olds...

I'm probably not the oldest and wisest person who browses this website, but at the same time I'll gladly admit my age of 24.  I do apologize for not giving EVE a decent chance before casting it aside and thinking negatively about it.  As I've stated several times already on this thread I'm giving EVE another chance....After I finish my registration to Beta Fallen Earth though. :)

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Originally posted by WingZero127
I'm probably not the oldest and wisest person who browses this website, but at the same time I'll gladly admit my age of 24.  I do apologize for not giving EVE a decent chance before casting it aside and thinking negatively about it.  As I've stated several times already on this thread I'm giving EVE another chance....After I finish my registration to Beta Fallen Earth though. :)

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Oldest and wisest? Are you also the most delusional? Oh and I can save you the hassle with Fallen Earth because its pure crap.

He stated ge wasnt the oldest or wisest, your reply confused me.

Sorry Im a bit new to the forums but a good majority of you have been to an extent overly harsh to the guy.

Originally posted by M1sf1t

 

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Originally posted by WingZero127
I'm probably not the oldest and wisest person who browses this website, but at the same time I'll gladly admit my age of 24.  I do apologize for not giving EVE a decent chance before casting it aside and thinking negatively about it.  As I've stated several times already on this thread I'm giving EVE another chance....After I finish my registration to Beta Fallen Earth though. :)

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Oldest and wisest? Are you also the most delusional? Oh and I can save you the hassle with Fallen Earth because its pure crap.

Did you bother to even read what he said before you decided to insult him, people on these forums need to chill out who cares if he said it takes 30mins or 30secs, grow up

What is the Fascination with EVE online?

Unless they've completely changed how you gain access to new tech in the game it was the worst purchase I ever made.

My month was used up before I even got anything cool to play with, I barely got a Frieghter and all I could do was haul stuff from an asteroid mining belt back to base.

My personal feeling on EVE Online was that the Graphics and Music were A++ but the Gameplay was a D-

I didn't start this forum to cause any arguments, I came here to find a good game to play and for the most part I've done just that.  For those of you who like or dislike EVE and Fallen Earth, hey that's your opinions and you're welcome to them.  Personally I'm liking Fallen Earth so far and I agree that the graphics are beautiful but the gameplay is lacking in EVE, so I'll  continue until the 14 day trial is up and I'll make a decision then.

Tabula Rasa (RIP) Was the only other SciFi game that came remotely close to EVE Online in scope of Graphical Awe

And as of yet...I haven't found another online game that matches EVE Online with the music available.

From what I can read up on and tell there's at least half a dozen SciFi type MMOs in the works.

Edit: nvmd 

Originally posted by WingZero127

I didn't start this forum to cause any arguments, I came here to find a good game to play and for the most part I've done just that.  For those of you who like or dislike EVE and Fallen Earth, hey that's your opinions and you're welcome to them.  Personally I'm liking Fallen Earth so far and I agree that the graphics are beautiful but the gameplay is lacking in EVE, so I'll  continue until the 14 day trial is up and I'll make a decision then.

 I think the problem is that EVE has a real steep learning curve. I kind of did not care too much for it either in the begining, but things changed dramatically once I fell in with a good corp and really started researching some of the more obscure aspects of the game.  If all you do in EVE is missions and mining, then yes, it's one of the most boring and repetetive games out there. But there is so much to do there that is not emidiatly obvious that it's not even funny.
 

lso I find the biggest problem with having a sci-fi mmo is that sci-fi has so many different branches and offshoots that it's hard to make something that encompasses it all.  Steampunk, Space Opera, Post-Appocaliptic, Cyberpunk, Horror Fiction, Alternative History, Time Travel and to an extent even Super Heroes are all science fiction. Yet not everyone likes all those genres and some who might like one may even hate another.

With fantasy it's a bit more simple. Mostly because everyone seems to have used Tolkien as a benchmark. So basically throw in Elves, warriors, wizards and clerics and you are good. Or at least it's what most game designers seem to think.

Actually Steampunk is SciFantasy a heavy blending of the two genres (Points towards NeoSteam)

There's also a secondary classification to fantasy which is HIGH fantasy, that's when you toss in all the wacky aspects of fantasy like fairies and pixies and such.

Worse comes to worse, just get a copy of Microsoft Games FreeLancer, download the discovery mod and connect to a Role Play discovery server. (i do that with some of my friends and the server is a max 200 player ratio which isnt too bad)

Yes i am deeply saddened that Tabula rasa died, i was there since the beginning and lost a lot of money invested in it and friends too... nothing has really been the same since they closed that game down.. and there are too many freaking Fantasy MMO's out there, no one seems to like the science fiction areas anymore... Planetside died out a long time ago as well which pissed me off that was fun too...

Why cant people see that SCI FI IS A MONEY MAKER!!!! damnit!

Originally posted by booboofinger

 I think the problem is that EVE has a real steep learning curve. I kind of did not care too much for it either in the begining, but things changed dramatically once I fell in with a good corp and really started researching some of the more obscure aspects of the game.  If all you do in EVE is missions and mining, then yes, it's one of the most boring and repetetive games out there. But there is so much to do there that is not emidiatly obvious that it's not even funny.
 

I can see it coming, either some of you are either going to yell at me, or laugh at me for saying this, but I'll say it anyway.  Over the last 3 days EVE has grown on me and I'm really beginning to like it so far.  A small corporation has picked me up, and I'm doing pretty well actually.  Jumping through 15 waypoints to get to a destination gets boring and I wind up roaming around the house while the Autopilot is in control, but other than that the game really is quite enjoyable to play.

Originally posted by GamerAeon

Actually Steampunk is SciFantasy a heavy blending of the two genres (Points towards NeoSteam)

There's also a secondary classification to fantasy which is HIGH fantasy, that's when you toss in all the wacky aspects of fantasy like fairies and pixies and such.

That's debatable. There are lots of sci-fi out there that have a distinct fantasy element and are usually classed as sci-fi instead of fantasy.

For example Lexx or even Doctor Who can both be heavy in fantasy elements yet are considered by most as sci-fi and not fantasy. Like I mentioned before there are many aspects and branches to sci-fi, Sci-Fi being one of them.

There are also a lot of branches in fantasy, but for the most part, video games in general tend to favor the foundation that was laid out by the table-top version of D&D, which was based in great part on Tolkien's work, which was high fantasy.

For a few months I re-installed Freelancer and was playing on the Void servers.  Freelancer was good too, but it gets repetative.  I'll stick with EVE for now, but I'll continue to watch Jumpgate Evolution for when that's released as well.

You know Speaking of D&D I hope this new F2P model they're developing helps them in the meantime I'll still eagerly await an MMO for D&D Set in the Forgotten Realms.